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Pete Stark (D-CA): “Our borders are quite secure, thank you.”

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posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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reply to post by LostNemesis
 


I honestly think this may be taken out of context

What he said if said in the right way could have just been a joke, one made in poor taste, but a joke none the less.

As far as the statement about the ladder company. It's completely true. and just a blunt way of saying that a wall would be idiotic. I mean ladders, and underground tunnels are going to bypass that easily.




posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by MarlboroRedCowgirl
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You sir are a fool. I have traveled along the 1 highway and driven through redwoods that our thousands off years old. I have cliff dived off thousand foot cliffs straight down to the warm Pacific below. I'm 20 years old, and I bet I've seen more beauty than you will EVER see, because I live in California. You don't know jack.


Warm Pacific? Surely you are talking about something other than the ocean. That water is so cold my nipples are still in hiding from the excursion 20 years ago.

But nice opinion. I am glad you like your state.
Just keep Stark away from Texas.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Just goes to show the goverment doesn't care about if the border is secure, but they'll send our sons & daughters 7,000 miles away to fight in two wars that have nothing to do with securing america.
Same as the goverment doesn't really care anything about the trouble down here along the gulf coast. if they did we wouldn't have the VP comming down to smooth over ruffled feathers for a 2 minute photo op with the press.

You folks wonder when the next revolution is going to happen, well its plain to see that the YANKEES up north don't give a rats arse about the boarders, or the Gulf oil problem. They just give it lip service, stick there heads in the sand and go about there own business.

Forget the goverment, normal folks just have to do it themselves...




posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Cdaddy1034
reply to post by LostNemesis
 


I honestly think this may be taken out of context

What he said if said in the right way could have just been a joke, one made in poor taste, but a joke none the less.

As far as the statement about the ladder company. It's completely true. and just a blunt way of saying that a wall would be idiotic. I mean ladders, and underground tunnels are going to bypass that easily.



It doesn't seem to be taken out of context....he kept on the stupid jokes about the MM. It was hardly professional of a law maker. Hopefully you are a peon in his District, you deserve him.


If you HAD a WALL in PLACE manned by TROOPS then there probably wouldn't be tunnels or ladders around it. We might as well do nothing, using your logic, since doing nothing has worked so well till now right? Sheesh........



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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Wow...This video made me so angry I had to collect my thoughts for a few moments before replying (something that many others on here could have benefited from as well, I see).

Anyway, I am absolutely appalled by the smugness and utter disregard for the very serious concerns of his constituents. As an AZ resident myself, I too know first-hand what this policy of non-enforcement is doing to our border states. Here in AZ, as many of you might already know, our government has posted warning signs along the southern region of the state, telling the citizenry to stay away due to the dangers on Mexican narco-gangs that have taken over the area.

Again, they have posted signs telling the LEGAL-CITIZENS to stay off our own land, because it has effectually been taken over by ILLEGAL MEXICAN CARTELS! This is an act of war by foreign invasion by any sense of the definition. Yet, our federal policy makers have done almost nothing about it, and harshly criticized our state bill SB-1070 when our local representation and governor finally had to step in.

Now I see this video of Stark, completely disregarding the concerns of his constituency, with quite possibly the most foul and pompous attitude I have EVER witnessed from a politician, in response to one of the most serious threats facing our nation. I feel sorry for the people of California if people like this are their last line of defense against a gradual overtaking of their state, while bleeding them dry of every natural and capital resource they have.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 01:22 PM
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We shouldn't be the least bit surprised since our federal government has been in the business of blatantly discounting and patronizing American's for decades! Consider that those "representatives" don't fall far from the proverbial tree.

ESV



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by PsychoX42

...What if the illegal immigration movement is merely a way to get Americans to imprison themselves by their own request, lock and key, inside their own country. What if Obama does everything that you have been begging him to do and the government finally secures the borders? Do you realize by locking others out, you have effectively locked yourselves in? What if, after the borders are secured and something hypothetical like martial law somehow gets declared...where are you going to run? They will have soldiers at that border willing to shoot any violation or violator of the very border laws that you insisted upon. This will imprison us all.

Consider that scenario as a possibility when you ask for border security.

Namaste and love


[edit on 30-6-2010 by PsychoX42]


I've oft consider this possibility and it is a definite risk. I forget who said it, but I remember a quote about not only will we not mind our rights being taken away, we will beg for it...or something like that. This may very well be the case as we push to put a box around our society...our police state.

In the end, the only thing I can say is, be careful what you wish for, you might just get it!

ESV



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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The Audacity of these people to tell us to submit to tyranny continues to amaze me. How do these people get elected?!!!! This guy is a scumbag just like the rest of our "representatives." There's only a few exceptions. We've got to vote these scumbags out as soon as possible. It's a good start. THEN once we actually have enough good people elected into office we NEED to go after those in charge of the Military industrial Complex. Those in the various parts of this government who don't go away, those who hide in the veil of the shadow, those who stay in the positions of power behind the curtain. We need to show these evil evil people who is in charge of this country. WE THE PEOPLE pay their paychecks, that makes us their boss NOT their serfs. I'm sorry, but I'm in control of the decisions in my life. Not these scumbags. This Pete Stark, is just a pawn in their(TPTB) plan. Keep exposing the truth, it will set us free.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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Is there no more Border Patrol down there?

Was there ever?... since I just read about the tunnels for smuggling dope into Mexico, maybe that is considered, by the government, to be a fair exchange?



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by ANNED
A democrat for calif says it all.

Likely got voted in because of all the illegals that are illegally signed up to vote.

We know in Calif there are a lot of illegals voting but because the democrats run the state nothing is ever done to stop them.



source or I'm calling more republican lies/tears



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 02:14 PM
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Haha, thousand foot cliffdiver eh? Not prone to exagerate are ya? Seriously though, in order to obtain any kind of credibility around here your gonna have to lay off the weed when you post.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by canadiansenior70
Is there no more Border Patrol down there?

Was there ever??


www.usborderpatrol.com...

all you had to do was google



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by Cdaddy1034
reply to post by LostNemesis
 


I honestly think this may be taken out of context

What he said if said in the right way could have just been a joke, one made in poor taste, but a joke none the less.

As far as the statement about the ladder company. It's completely true. and just a blunt way of saying that a wall would be idiotic. I mean ladders, and underground tunnels are going to bypass that easily.



I only have one thing to say to his ladder theory. If you go to Korea they have a DMZ built by the US military to stop north Koreans from crossing into south Korea its so effective that the north sneaks people in by subs. So to say it cant be done is just stupid.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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actually watching this video again, this guy is awesome. If any of you bothered to read his track record, pete stark has fantastic things to say about the war!



On October 18, 2007, Stark made the following comments on the House floor during a debate with Congressman Joe Barton of Texas: "Republicans sure don't care about finding $200 billion to fight the illegal war in Iraq. Where are you going to get that money? Are you going to tell us lies like you're telling us today? Is that how you're going to fund the war? You don't have money to fund the war or children. But you're going to spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the President's amusement."


and say what you will, people who are not from california, but we share a border with arizona and we're not even near the rate of kidnappings in phoenix.

You wanna know how hard the crackdown is?

I just discovered my own (extended) family has VERY distant ties to the cartel. 32 people are now under surveillance by the DEA.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by antonia
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Oh wow, now that was classy.

Really, you guys want to cry about something on rep said and then wish death on him? Wow, I really hope some of you don't have kids.


His comment was about as classy as Pete Starck was in that video, so no harm done. Though I can't say I disagree with Caji316's comment, either. Starck is a disease to any form of government.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by piddles

and say what you will, people who are not from california, but we share a border with arizona and we're not even near the rate of kidnappings in phoenix.



Not for long

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WASHINGTON - Arizona's tough new immigration law is driving undocumented families out. A few of the immigrants are returning to Mexico, but many simply are pulling up stakes and relocating to other parts of the United States.

From Arizona's perspective, that is a sign that Senate Bill 1070 is already starting to achieve its goal of "attrition through enforcement," even though the measure spearheaded by state Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, doesn't go into effect until July 29. But some policymakers see Arizona's fix as merely shoving its problems onto other states. They say a national solution, comprehensive immigration reform, is needed to appropriately address the border breakdown, and they are looking to President Barack Obama for leadership.


This leaves every other state deciding if it will absorb the costs, or if they will make their own rules, too.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 04:34 PM
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I started sending emails to people, but apparently this is already viral. It's hit the MSM.

My guess is he knows his career is over, so why hide what an ass he is anymore.

It simply does not matter if you agree with the Minutemen or not. That does not change Stark's behavior. In all of the polls between 65 and 75% of the voters, including many Democrats want the Border closed.

These good ole boys know their careers are over so they just don't care any longer. I'd expect more of this.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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I think we should bring back the practice of tarring and feathering. This guy has some serious problems, the least of which is he probably pissed off the Dem Caucus with his childish behavior .. Anyone who votes for him next time around had better do some soul searching.



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
I started sending emails to people, but apparently this is already viral. It's hit the MSM.

My guess is he knows his career is over, so why hide what an ass he is anymore.


the only people who would be outraged by this are people who lean right. oh noes he really lost a big portion of his voters



posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 05:18 PM
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"other states are possibly thinking about this" doesn't mean "other states have just as serious problems as arizona".



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