Originally posted by Target Earth
reply to post by Steal7h
Dude, that is all speculation. What proof do you have that any of the stuff you listed even goes down?
Google Oliver North for one example. Shadier than what the person you're questioning described!! Google CIA + coc aine, check out those plane
wrecks. Where are all those drugs coming from and going to you think... hmmm? Truth is stranger than fiction!!! And they just stopped .. you think?
These were isolated incidents and not indicative of a larger problem? No.
and as far as this propaganda... DO NOT BELIEVE THIS! I constantly wonder to myself how many times people will let the government lie to them about
these types of things before they stop gobbling it up. Scare you, make you afraid, make you weak, make you vulnerable... and make you do whatever
they want. That is why we are in the Middle East today, because they played all the right emotional cards and the entire nation was so shell shocked,
confused, and just down right mad that we would have agreed to nuke Russia if they told us that's who did it.
Here's where the weapons come from...
A Look at the Numbers
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully
traced — and of those, 90 percent — 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover — were found to have come from the
But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.
In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that
could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
So, if not from the U.S., where do they come from? There are a variety of sources:
– The Black Market. Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired
rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.
– Russian crime organizations. Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking
drugs and arms in Mexico.
- South America. During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and drug
trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.
– Asia. According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese
assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.
– The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took
their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.
– Guatemala. U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and drugs, including most of America’s
coc aine, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and
a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican drug cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.
pft... suuuuure, Hezbollah quit bickering with Israel (wait, no they didn't) so they could divert their resources to North America and help out the
Mexican cartels! Suuuuuuuuuure they did.