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Originally posted by seagull
...and what would you suggest be done?
The quote you posted was being used, IMHO, somewhat facetiously by the OP.
So America was founded by illegal immigrants, looking for something better, right?
We’re supposed to be a world leader, super power if you will.
We’re supposed to Help, be there for others, aren’t we?
Isn’t this what America was founded on?
By that I mean, shouldn’t we be trying to help the illegal immigrants?
This might sound like I’m crazy
would it work?
I have helped illegal co-workers with their english. I have helped them study for their test to become legal. Now I must say that there were more illegals who had no desire to become legal than their were the ones who did.
Most of the women got here with stolen identities and false documents or anchor babies and proceeded to have a few more. They lied about the boyfriends who lived with them (and made good money) so it looked like they had one income instead of two. They got cheap housing, food stamps free medical...while many of our citzens make barely 3.00 over the poverty line and get denied help. these things I resent.
So many hispanics do not want to speak english. We now have many employers who require that you are bilingual to even get a factory job. No one in America should have to speak a foreign language to get a job in a friggin factory.
So even though I have offered my help to those who needed and wanted it, bottom line is that we are living in different times. This is no longer the land of opportunity. Most of our jobs are out-sourced to other countries. With the increase of illegals came the lowering of wages, lost jobs for the American citizens who could not work for less than minimum wage. Many illegals get paid under the table, live with different families in the same apartment and receive free medical etc. They can afford to work for lower wages.
I have some Native American Indians in my ancestry, and the ones who were'nt indians, came here legally. Thing is, there aren't enough jobs anymore. We cannot afford to continue allowing so many immigrants.
It's not our job to help every poor soul on this planet.. it's not our job to police them, to protect anyone, to feed anyone or provide any kind of financial assistance. It's our job to look after ourselves. TAKE A LOOK AT OUR COUNTRY. We have cities riddled with poverty. High crime. A piss poor education system. A corrupt healthcare system. Why the bloody hell should we be wasting our resources helping every fool trying to run across our border when we can't even take care of ourselves? Put em all on a train, send em home. They don't deserve our country if they can't respect our laws. They don't deserve our help and charity while holding us in contempt. And the World sure as hell doesn't deserve the assistance of this country, we should withdraw ALL assistance to everyone, bring our troops home, close our bases, and tell the World to get on without us. Not our responsibility to nanny people, especially when we are not respected for our efforts to begin with.
Why would an illegal not want help to become a citizen? That's just a load of crap.
Wait first you say that this country is basically shi* and then you say the rest of the world doesn't deserve this country? Which is it?
No matter how close we are to the abyss, countries like Mexico paint the US as a utopia. This is the reason that a majority of the population from countries like that wish to immigrate to here.
(June 23, 2010 -- Maywood, CA) The City of Maywood is developing an innovative strategy to continue to provide residents quality and uninterrupted public services. As such, the City of Maywood will contract out all of its municipal services to help offset its costs associated with the recent loss of its insurance and workers compensation as well as shrinking grants and funding from both the state and the federal government.
Well when it comes to school and jobs again citizens should be given this opportunity first. I have to struggle to get money for school because I can't check any of those oh so wonderful options that get me more money for being a minority such as Spanish. I am also tired of losing jobs to those who speak Spanish. Sorry but this is America we speak English, why should I have to learn another language to get a job when they don't even try to learn English?
Because it serves them to have the rage directed toward the illegal immigrants and not toward those profiting off of their cheap labor. The irony here is those that are stoking the fires of "patriotism" are the ones acting the most unpatriotic. The greed and hypocrisy is sickening
Is a border secure only when no one crosses illegally and when no contraband slips through?
If some permeability is acceptable, what is the tolerable amount?
Political leaders mostly dodge those questions, and for good reason: Anyone with a minimal knowledge or understanding about the nearly 2,000-mile swath of land between Mexico and the United States realizes that requiring a secure border establishes an impossible standard.
One reason: There is no way to conclude success because authorities have no idea how many undocumented immigrants are getting through. Authorities can count only the number of unauthorized intruders captured. Such unavoidable uncertainty prevents any absolute assurances that no one is sneaking over, making declarations of victory impossible.
Another reason: The motivation and creativity of those trying to get across