Originally posted by AquariusDescending
First of all, the vaccine itself is NOT safe. It has mercury, it has a load of other "crap" in it that no sane person would inject into their
blood stream for any other stated reason,
Then don't receive the vaccine? I've actually read the studies (as opposed to most others here), both from the CDC and international labs, and there
is no evidence linking thimerosal or other adjuvants to any disease. However, if you feel repeated studies aren't enough to convince you...just
don't get the vaccine. It's that simple.
it has caused deaths and serious illnesses in many documented cases, and there are many medical professionals who are very adamant about the
fact that they would never take it themselves or administer it to their own children. DOCTORS saying this, on TV, in magazine articles, online
articles, with patients face-to-face.
So let's start from there. If YOU THINK the vaccine is safe -- then we really have nothing to discuss here anyway because you wouldn't
consider mandatory vaccination as such a bad thing to begin with if you actually thought it was safe now would you?
That's a massive leap in logic, and it shows how aggresively biased you are. Why would you assume my belief in the safety of vaccines means I support
forced vaccination? I am a full supporter of the patient's right to choose their treatment. That doesn't mean I think vaccines are unsafe.
You need to take a step back and think your posts through, I think.
Now why would people "all of a sudden" start thinking the government wants mandatory vaccines?
This hasn't come up "all of a sudden". People have been screaming "depopulation conspiracy" since the 1930s, despite the world (and US)
population skyrocketing. Some people just can't live without drama or terror in their lives, real or not.
publicity and hype surrounding the swine flu, national epidemics, etc., that people were already discussing the "issue" of mandatory
vaccinations. I remember because I felt offended and was resolved to NEVER take the vaccine.
Random posts on ATS are not "rumors", they're fear-mongering screed. There's a difference.
Fortunately no one did try to push it on me -- YET.
So, despite all the fear, panic, and "plots to combat the conspiracy"...nothing happened. Gee, I wonder why? Could it be that there was never any
plan for mandatory vaccination to begin with?
Most everyone I talked to personally didn't trust it and weren't going to take it.
Like minds tend to gather. I'm sure a lot of people you talk to have similar political and religious leanings as you. It doesn't mean anything other
than a community of similar people gravitating to one another. That's basic psychology.
However there was a huge marketing campaign for it,
I don't recall seeing more ads than any other flu season. Source, please?
and facilities in my area were giving it out for free at one point
Most pharmacies and hospitals do this every year. They give a certain percentage away free to the elderly and the infants. I've given more free flu
shots than paid flu shots in my career, I would wager. Just because last year was the first time you noticed doesn't mean it was the first time it
, and of course there was all the hype about swine flu and how deadly it was, despite it killing less people than the normal flu during the
exact same time period. I have a 9-year old nephew and they even had people come to his elementary school and give all the kids vaccines whose
parents would sign for it. His parents signed for it. Their decision. But that's the first time I've heard of vaccinations being brought into
elementary schools like that and I'm upset that people would be so stupid and careless as to do such a thing with the medical evidence that abounds
regarding this vaccine!
Really? The first time you've heard of vaccines in schools? When I was in medical school (nearly ten years ago), we had the option, EVERY YEAR, to
sign up to give MMR, TB tests, tetanus, flu, and meningitis shots at the local high school on three school days every year.
Again, just because this was the first time you had heard of it, doesn't mean it was the first time it has happened.
There are plenty of reasons to be paranoid of this vaccine. There were people involved with its production who spoke out against it. Members
of the German government were given special versions of the vaccines that did not have mercury and other contaminants.
Source for these?
Why are there two tiers of vaccination quality there, one for leaders and one for the general public?
You can request an adjuvant-free version from your physician, usually at no extra cost. It's not a super-secret, special handshake sort of deal. You
just have to ask. There's usually even literature in the waiting room about this issue, and it typically asks about egg and other allergies on the
forms you fill out before seeing the nurse/doctor for this specific reason.
Why has it spontaneously given some people severe nervous diseases that prevent them from even moving around and functioning like a normal
human being anymore?
It hasn't. Source please.
What is all this talk about population reduction by the CDC and other officials, the same people who are offering this vaccine?
They haven't talked about that. Source, please.
Fear and paranoia are healthy when the threat is real. When I see seriously ill people after they have taken this vaccine, I see a very real
risk and danger. Even if I don't become a cripple after taking the vaccine, there is no way in hell it will in any way STRENGTHEN my immune system
when it renders other people in such a severe way, contains known toxins to the nervous system, etc.
That's fine. No one is forcing you to take it. You may want to save your vitriol for a real threat, not a made-up one.
I think it is actually much easier for people to believe everything is okay and life will always carry on unchanged, without challenges, than
it is for people to believe that something is wrong that needs to be watched and fixed. People today are apathetic and would RATHER believe
everything is okay and they have no responsibilities.
There's a difference between facing threats and making them up. There is no evidence that mandatory vaccination is even on the horizon. Why panic
about something that is just in your head?
Again, tilting at windmills.