I don't know how they'd enforce this. I'd go to jail before being vaccinated. Even with threats of fine and imprisonment, they can't even get millions of people to fill out a census form.

Originally posted by yuefo
I don't know how they'd enforce this. I'd go to jail before being vaccinated. Even with threats of fine and imprisonment, they can't even get millions of people to fill out a census form.

You never know we might be sharing a cell

i own my body and no way will i be taking the jab when i know the zionists want a population cull which is logical given we have become like locusts on the land.

Do they not need a flase flag pleage like H5N1 to rush this through or will they just send out fines like parking tickets.

i can not belive americans are allowing this to happen and you all need to start follwoing the money.

Never had a flu vaccine, oddly enough i've also never had the flu. Wonder if there is a connection there.

They could never enforce this. I agree with the other posters that i'd be in a cell with you. Although I don't think i'd even make it to a cell, they can force you if you're in a cell. They'd have to get ahold of me first.

Jail for me too. I wonder what the WHO is recommending? Are other countries doing this too? Or are we the primary targets/guinea pigs at the moment?

This isn't even LOGICAL. Usually the strain of flu that gets ya isn't the one you were vaccinated for. In addition can't overvaccinating cause a cytokine storm?

Again, with the new Obamacare comes big perks for big pharm. I don't see how they can even think about enforcing this. As much as they argue that failure to accept the vaccination is harmful to my health, I can assure you that my molten lead is much more hazardous to theirs should they try and enforce this upon me.

Originally posted by PayMeh
As much as they argue that failure to accept the vaccination is harmful to my health, I can assure you that my molten lead is much more hazardous to theirs should they try and enforce this upon me.

True that

Obviously, as I said in the OP, this has been something that has been in the works for a while - it's something we've all talked about here on ATS before.

If they are finally coming out in the public and speaking like this though, then they obviously also have a plan to fulfill their objective and/or agenda(s).

We know the world population is large, and we know that it should be/needs to be reduced. However, that can happen over time if the right steps are implemented; there is no need to kill anyone off - slowly or not it's wrong, VERY VERY WRONG. Actually if you're going to force me to take 'vaccinations' that are harmful to me, you may as well just give me the same cocktail they give death row inmates at execution because I'd rather die fast than slow.

However, much like everyone else, I would NEVER accept this. I will fight for my freedoms as much as I humanly can... and then some! I would never accept a free vaccination (which is going to be the deal here if they enforce this onto the masses), let alone one I have to pay for.

I can bet you that they will start with the very sick, very poor, and homeless people first. They may even give out some actual good medication to some of those people to make it look like it's all safe and dandy, but we know that this is not the truth - at least in the long haul we know any vaccination can be harmful to you, regardless if it's been tampered with.

The whole point of this country and many others, is to be FREE. This is not freedom, this is becoming more and more like slavery. I know people would never allow themselves to be used as lab rats but is it really going to take that long [where we are fighting for our lives not to take said vaccines] for us all to do something about this???

The real threat here isn't some covert government conspiracy to inject us with bad things intentionally. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm just saying there's a larger threat. I'll outline how things are falling into place.

1. Big pharmaceutical corps have had this thorn in their sides for years - the steps they have to take to deem their products "safe" for human consumption. They've found loopholes and been granted the rights to self regulate. The more disease and/or panic they can create, the more money they get to funnel into their bank accounts.

2. With the new Obamacare, there is a new found vested interest in the naive government shills to push for preventative measures.

3. Big pharm has been given the opportunity to create the demand for their products. It is at the heart of the matter a conflict of interest. If this measure comes to pass, they stand to not only double or triple their initial profits, but it also gives them incentive to increase the percentage of live virus vaccines.

This will create a perfect storm as it were. With the labs being able to deem their own products safe and the masses being forced to trust these entities, nothing stands in the way of these companies making an intentional "mistake" and double-dip-charging to fix any error their labs create.

The companies laugh all the way to the bank all while they sell more products to fix problems they initially caused. The implications could be huge - from mass pandemics to life long side effects requiring a barrage of new medications.

We have to understand that all oversight in this country is gone. Corporate bank accounts are safe. We the people are not safe. Go to Italy and you'll see bread shops, cheese shops, butcher shops with cured ham that's been hanging from the ceiling for two years. What do we have? Irradiated vegetables, chlorinated meats, chemical soaked everything.

We are being poisoned to save ourselves from being poisoned - all the while middle-men are being placed shoulder to shoulder between products and consumers. All for the love of money.

Edit to add: I have changed my stance from government officials having a set precise agenda to the conclusion that they are all just that stupid. I think BHO believes what he's been doing is "the right thing to do." Someone's sold him on these ideas. I think it has to do with the average person being pelted with sales pitches from the moment of birth. We've built up a tolerance and have decent BS meters. I don't think the elites do. It's like someone's told them their whole lives that Santa is real and they've never learned any better. Most have no grip on reality and are suffering from severe Marie Antoinette Syndrome.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by PayMeh]

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"Now no one should say 'Should I or shouldn't I?'" said CDC flu specialist Anthony Fiore"


Well TONY, the last time i checked i was still in posession of my own free will

I will not comply in any sugestion of any gov, even for so said security

I can take care of my own self

but i want peace !

Chop Chop Tony

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Just shut up and drink the Kool-Aid before i get impatient dernit!
If I miss the American Idol season opener someone's gonna pay!

I will most likely get my shot while I am strapped to a bed and helpless in my cell next to a bunch of ATS nuts!
No really this is right up there with Gun Confiscation and The First Amendment, and I will treat it as such.

Originally posted by g146541
I will most likely get my shot while I am strapped to a bed and helpless in my cell next to a bunch of ATS nuts!

Sadly, we are not the nuts... the nuts will be the ones giving you that shot because they think it's for your own good. But, I guess we can all rest assured we'll have a lot of people on our side against this... I just hope opposition does something for a change; when it comes to a subject such as my OP, it's no time for games anymore - this is serious.

Originally posted by g146541
No really this is right up there with Gun Confiscation and The First Amendment, and I will treat it as such.

It is, you're right. I just hope people realize this is a huge issue before it is too late. I can picture it in my head now... little old ladies thinking "Well this will help everyone out, no one will be sick anymore!" and then it will come down to some sort of vote (that will be rigged anyway) and BAM!

"Hello sir, where would you like your injection today?"

"Umm, how about you stick it up your a$$?"

Really though, how many thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, Etc. of years have we survived without flu shots?
There have been some nasty bugs in the past but we still really don't know if they were natural or engineered.
This would be an unforgiveable crime and that is how I would react and treat it.
I wonder how they will get the Jehovas Witnesses to take this one?

governments who would leave people bedridden with broken limbs and refuse to help even when they know their refusal will lead to the person being permenantly handicapped shouldn't be worrying about weather said person catches the flu or not.....

no thanks, you can have my shot, Mr. Pres.

What's that quote?

" Bring your needle and I'll bring my gun, we'll see who makes a bigger hole."

Yeah, that's the one.

This isn't really a law or them pushing anything. I guess they are recommending that this be the way things are in the future. It will be up to nursing staff and the doctors to decide how much weight to put behind a bureaucrats decision.

I'm not surprised however, maybe we'll see a resurging swine flu over the fall and into the winter this year.

More vaccinations to come I assume. More times I'm going to have to say no.

~Keeper

In the Mayan pueblitos of South Mexico everyone was forced to take the h1n1 vaccine. Children were vacinnated TWICE without even consulting their parents. The teachers brought the children to be vacinnated and the parents learned of it later. The saddest part of it was that the Maya lined up like cattle and took their dose without the slightest qualm. I learned later that in the cities of Mexico no one had to take the vaccine. Is this part of the plan to eliminate the indigenous people from the ¨Riviera Maya?