While I completely agree, that the Rapture Theory, is babel induced and inspired by satanic notions, I can not, as you obvious concluded, it is a
problem that is related to the Bible, and it's Biblical Teachings.
Originally posted by autowrench
There are may lies in the Bible, here is just one of the biggest ones:
"God is one Person, and His name is Jesus Christ."
Show me ANYWHERE, in the King James 1611 Bible, that indicates this in just so many words.
Here is another one: ......Where in history is Jesus?
What history would you expect? Jewish records about a Man who didn't even live in the region?
What evidence does the BIBLE even give to support Jesus lived in Nazereth. None my friend, so seeking insight and such from other Jewish, or Arab
sources is a stretch at best.
I would suggest a book by E. Raymond Capt called the Traditions of Glastonbury. There is more evidence to support a Child Name Jesus, came to the
Isles with his Mother Mary, and Joseph, as well as his Uncle, Joseph of Aramethia, who operated Tin Mines in England, and where records of this are
clear. There is much lore of a young Jesus in Glastonbury, with Coat of Arms on Pub's displaying a Young Lad arriving via a Lauch with his Uncle,
Joseph. Sayings, Songs, as well as the Glastonbury Abbey, which is storied to be the first Church ever created, built by Jesus himself, for his
Mother, who is buried, (along with a few apostles) on the Site.
A short example of some of Capts theories
Now I am not suggesting he lived there exculsivily, since the greeters of Cortez, make it clear he was in the Americas at some point as well.
No, you again, as with your first claim, suggest a lie is somehow indicated SCRIPTURALLY, when this is not the case at all.
Ignorance of science, and ignorance of history, are the two great bulwarks of religious error.
Here, I agree. RELIGIOUS error has inspired ignorance of Science and History.
But your statement and claim previously offered direct your misgivings to the Bible Itself. The Bible and Science, and for the most part, History are
testements to eachother. They are not in conflict with each other. But you are correct, that Religion is. Religion is not the Bible. Religion is a MAN
INSPIRED CREATION which is constrewed to regulate and manipulate scripture to twist and distort the word of God to secure desired results, aka the
Paul himself clearly even seem this in his second letter to the Thessilonians. The Second Chapter is quite clear.
002:001 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
002:002 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at
Pauls is noting that here there is already a problem. Somehow the followers here have started to believe Christ's return is soon. The following
clearly tells us WHEN Christ will return
002:003 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
002:004 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing
himself that he is God.
The Antichrist, will stand in the Temple, on the Temple Mount, and cease the Sacrafice, claiming he is Jesus.
This is the "trigger" that sets the Return of Christ, and "that Gathering".
002:005 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
002:006 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
002:007 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
002:008 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his
002:009 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
002:010 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Again, it is clear, the Return is after the Antichrist, and this is when the Follwers will gather to be with God.
Not before, as some lunatic for the 1800's babeled on about.
Now Jesus was a Jew, right? Then why don't the Jewish People believe in Jesus as the Messiah?
Simple. He did not come to defeat an Earthly Power, (i.e. The Romans). He came to defeat Death, which is still lost upon the "Jew" either thru the
"Ignorance is Bliss" mindset, or in efforts to eliminate any feeling of Guilt they may harbour due to their part, in the Manner inwhich the Messiah
was killed. (Actully they had not much to due with the matter as a whole, since Christ was killed via ROMAN MEANS).
Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah because:
Because the Devils of Rome did not get purged from the Sands of Israel, and sent to the homeland in Body Bags.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I God do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
Now, since you have previously offered examples of how the Doctrines, Dogmas and Theologies of Religious sects have twisted scripture, I trust you are
not also wishing to do so here.
Evil, utilized in Isaiah 45:7 is an interesting word, with an interesting root.
7451 ra` rah from 7489; bad or (as noun) evil (natural or moral):-- adversity, affliction, bad, calamity, + displease(-ure), distress, evil((-
favouredness), man, thing), + exceedingly, X great, grief(-vous), harm, heavy, hurt(-ful), ill (favoured), + mark, mischief(-vous), misery,
naught(-ty), noisome, + not please, sad(-ly), sore, sorrow, trouble, vex, wicked(-ly, -ness, one), worse(-st), wretchedness, wrong. (Incl. feminine
raaah; as adjective or noun.).
Ask the Inhabitants of Sodom, and they would, if they could, confirm this.
Ask the Neighbours of Noah, and they would, if they could, confirm this.
Ask the Inhabitants of Jericho, and they would, if they could, confirm this
Ask Pharoh's Army, and they would, if they could, confirm this.
Evil, as opted by the Translators is not quite as black and white as we suggest it is today.
Evil is the result of not obeying GOD's Laws. It is the manifestation of reaping what one sows, so to speak.
It is not the premise that GOD created the Demon's, which to this day, possess people and things. He did not create the Cancer that takes friends and
family at an unprecidented rate.
I trust you get what I mean.
I would also like to offer something to think about. Egypt is noted within this chapter 45 of Isaiah. Strange how "Both" Egypt and "Ra" are used.
Even the Rood from which Ra comes flows in a similar stream.
7489 ra`a` raw-ah' a primitive root; properly, to spoil (literally, by breaking to pieces); figuratively, to make (or be) good for nothing, i.e.
bad (physically, socially or morally):--afflict, associate selves (by mistake for 7462), break (down, in pieces), + displease, (be, bring, do) evil
(doer, entreat, man), show self friendly (by mistake for 7462), do harm, (do) hurt, (behave self, deal) ill, X indeed, do mischief, punish, still,
vex, (do) wicked (doer, -ly), be (deal, do) worse.
As for the following, I trust this becomes clear for you now.
If God is the maker of evil then what role does the devil play, if he exists? Why would God create something that could usurp his authority and
You see, Satan, (aka The Devil) did nothing in the events I noted above. Sodom, Jeircho, Noah's Neightbours, and the Pharoh's Army all experienced
the Chastizment of GOD, which had NOTHING to do with Evil, as inspired by the Devil.
It's two seperate things, which you have confused as one and the same.
Your concepts of God, Heaven, Hell, the Devil, Angels and Saints come from mythology and recycled Egyptian Sun worship through the modern
religions, mainly that of the Catholic Church.
I would argue this, but only through a different perspective.
Our concept of GOD, Heaven, and the Angels come from the Original form of worship established on the 6th Day. Our Concepts of Hell and the Devil, come
through the twisting of Satan and the Fallen. As does the Origins of the Pagan Faiths. Twisted and manipulated rites confused enough to seemingly
remain "close" to the Original Form, yet always viewed as distinct and different, despite being the same as usual all in all
Well it's been nice chatting with you.
Have a good day