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G20 protest violence escalates in Toronto

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posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:15 PM
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Usually I dislike the "cryptic poetic" posts. But yours was good, mostly because I agree with the premise.

These people feed off of us. And we have to ALLOW that to happen, buy continually buying into their game. All we have to do to stop this is for average, everyday, people to stop 1)buying their stuff, 2)working for them, 3) buying their stock, etc.

We could organize a parallel society, and simply exclude them, and put in place safeguards to disallow that sort of sociopathy. I understand why people dont want to fly all over and march, but I dont understand why ever person who abhors this isnt doing every single thing they can do to disassociate themselves from this system.

Dont get the latest and greatest phone. Buy a used car, used furniture, used anything you can instead of new. Pump the money back into your community, buy from smaller local stores, get dish cloths and stop buying paper towels. Buy your fruits and vegetables from local producers, or grow your own in your back yard. Whatever small incremental thing you can do to stop feeding the machine. Change doesnt have to be dramatic and sudden. It can happen by a slow erosion of their base.

Thats how they have subverted our government, after all. Slow and steady wins the day. But you have to do something.

Utter hopeless apathy is what they WANT from you. That is their plan.




posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:15 PM
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For the most part, they considered themselves the Weather Underground. They did not hide their faces back then though.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by SoulofBlack
 


For the sake of my own education, can you tell me a time where citizens have used violence to bring about positive change? I agree that agression may be needed at times but it is not the way to go. All your doing is exchanging one tyrannical entity for another. Can you say military coup?



Ok... you're not thinking this through...

ANARCHISTS DON'T WANT TO SEIZE POWER. The entire PURPOSE of Anarchism is to dismantle the structures of power and wealth that allow ANYONE or ANY ORGANIZATION to attain the amount of power/wealth over and above others that they currently do.

If we are to believe that power and money corrupt, then we MUST aim for a society that massively decreases the amount of wealth/power available to anybody at all. Otherwise we're just playing games, politics, and like you said, switching one dictator for the next. Anarchists want the system down and to STAY down. Anarchists want a NEW system which actually promotes freedom, equality, sustainability, dignity, diversity, rights, and PEACE. Sometimes though, to have peace you must defend yourself with violence. If violence was ineffective then the state wouldn't use it or threaten to use it.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:18 PM
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So it seems we here have our own little fema camp, being set up as Studio or atleast used be a studio.

I can only imagine whats going on the inside

toronto.ctv.ca...

There were alot of movements going in and out in that base camp.

Alot of bueses were going in and out, and some unmarked.



As i was saying anyone here have a live webcast of this? CP24 will soon take off for the night.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:20 PM
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So that is why they destroy innocent peoples property? That is why they loot and steal? That is why they light fires and throw rocks and bricks? To get even with the poor guy who owns a Coffee Shop or an evil Bookstore owner? Get real.

If they gain access to the people they claim to be protesting against, what is their plan? To kill them?

I don't like phony violent people and never have.

Perhaps you should study the real thing. People like Martin Luther King or Ghandi? People who changed things, who made a difference.

The F Bomb means nothing to me. I'm not a child.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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Gee more dirty rotten stinking fascists dressed like protesters to help the elite get what they want: an end to freedom of speech! That's what I think. Rip those masks off and I bet you'll see cops or soldiers, that's what you'll see!



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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www.ctv.ca...

what s$%7-show, more pictures here.

I reserve my comment for now.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by dianashay
"By 10:30am, members of the intelligence unit had arrested a Quebec man near Parliament and Gerrard streets and charged him with conspiracy. They seized goggles, golf balls, lemon juice and bandanas. Three women, also from Quebec, were arrested at the scene and charged with weapons offences." canoe.ca

lol 1 Billion in security and they are worried about golf balls and lemon juice. Sad a$$ riot cops.


Even the most common everyday items are detrivialized as threats to the globalist elite...how childish are they!



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:15 PM
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You are absolutely f*ing WRONG.


About what?



Anarchists wear masks in order to hide their identities from POLICE and SURVEILLANCE. For you to deny that extensive surveillance isn't conducted (and unfairly/unconstitutionally) on protesters demonstrates your willful ignorance. The only people that the masks piss off are the cops, and THAT'S GOOD.


When did I say that wearing a mask was Not to hide identity?

I clearly said in my post that a guy with a mask on could be anyone, Plants don't want to get detected just like anarchist don't. Thats a no brainer and the purpose of a mask.

And I'll have you know that one of my heroes is Noam Chomsky the anarchist....But you don't see him wearing a mask hooting and hollering while braking Bank windows, inciting the police and giving them cause to bash peaceful peoples heads in...do you?

Wiki

And just to let you geniuses know Banks have this thing called property damage insurance. They sit Back and laugh while you guys bust their stuff up because they don't even have to pay for the repairs and the anti-protest propaganda with you groups right on the TV screen come free of charge.

I mean for the love of God just think about it....The have corporate plants that emulate what you guys do...should that not be a clear as day sign that you guys are doing something wrong?

Go back to the drawing board because what you guys do does nothing but hurt the cause.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


So that is why they destroy innocent peoples property? That is why they loot and steal? That is why they light fires and throw rocks and bricks? To get even with the poor guy who owns a Coffee Shop or an evil Bookstore owner? Get real.

If they gain access to the people they claim to be protesting against, what is their plan? To kill them?

I don't like phony violent people and never have.

Perhaps you should study the real thing. People like Martin Luther King or Ghandi? People who changed things, who made a difference.

The F Bomb means nothing to me. I'm not a child.


Many in the civil rights era were heard because they had violence toward those who put them down, the most prominent being the black panther party. The list of riots demonstrate that violence results in a more radical change more quickly, whether it be for the best of the country or the worst.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:33 PM
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So you show your true colors as a fascist...


There is nothing wrong with Fascism, nor Communism, nor Capitalism, nor socialism.

Look at Japan, Japan is the most Fascist countries in the world today, but it cares about it's people so it works.

Look at South Korea, it's definitely one of the most Capitalist countries in the words, but it cares about it's people so it works.

Look at Chile, that one of the world most poorest countries in the world, but it's streets and buildings are 100% more perfect and beautiful that those of New York city. Because That country cares about it's people.

Poland was a great communist country, and many lived in peace after the Russians left. because at one time that country cared about it's people.

But anarchist feed off of the axis of government just Like Cops that bash people's heads in feed of of yours. Uneducated violent Anarchist and tyrannical Governments are like symbiotic soul mates. You need each other and would shrivel up and die with out one another.

Realise that.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by SoulofBlack

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


So that is why they destroy innocent peoples property? That is why they loot and steal? That is why they light fires and throw rocks and bricks? To get even with the poor guy who owns a Coffee Shop or an evil Bookstore owner? Get real.

If they gain access to the people they claim to be protesting against, what is their plan? To kill them?

I don't like phony violent people and never have.

Perhaps you should study the real thing. People like Martin Luther King or Ghandi? People who changed things, who made a difference.

The F Bomb means nothing to me. I'm not a child.


Many in the civil rights era were heard because they had violence toward those who put them down, the most prominent being the black panther party. The list of riots demonstrate that violence results in a more radical change more quickly, whether it be for the best of the country or the worst.


there is a big difference between what the black Panthers, Hoffa and the Teamsters did and what some punk Kids busting windows acomplish.





posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith

Originally posted by SoulofBlack

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by NoHierarchy
 


So that is why they destroy innocent peoples property? That is why they loot and steal? That is why they light fires and throw rocks and bricks? To get even with the poor guy who owns a Coffee Shop or an evil Bookstore owner? Get real.

If they gain access to the people they claim to be protesting against, what is their plan? To kill them?

I don't like phony violent people and never have.

Perhaps you should study the real thing. People like Martin Luther King or Ghandi? People who changed things, who made a difference.

The F Bomb means nothing to me. I'm not a child.


Many in the civil rights era were heard because they had violence toward those who put them down, the most prominent being the black panther party. The list of riots demonstrate that violence results in a more radical change more quickly, whether it be for the best of the country or the worst.


there is a big difference between what the black Panthers, Hoffa and the Teamsters did and what some punk Kids busting windows acomplish.




Still violence though.

Again, one look at the list of riots and you will see plenty of times how violence from riots has achieved a goal.



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Izarith

there is a big difference between what the black Panthers, Hoffa and the Teamsters did and what some punk Kids busting windows acomplish.



What would you say that difference is?

Seriously, I am curious as to what you feel makes one form of rioting more effective? Legitimate? I am not even clear how you think they differ qualitatively.



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by Izarith

there is a big difference between what the black Panthers, Hoffa and the Teamsters did and what some punk Kids busting windows acomplish.



What would you say that difference is?

Seriously, I am curious as to what you feel makes one form of rioting more effective? Legitimate? I am not even clear how you think they differ qualitatively.


The Black Panthers got the Black community more respect and the government felt the need to create crack coc aine to stop that moment.

If you can not see the difference between the black panthers and the Bloods and the crips they later became, I am at a loss for words.

The Hoffa And teamsters movement got the working man 20 to 40 buck an hour. Cops would not give a teamster a tick in America because of the Respect the movement caused in America for the betterment of the worker and his rights.

If you can not see the difference between Hoffa and the Teamsters and some idiot punk kids wearing masks, I am at a loss for words.

If you can not see the difference between the violence of the American revolution and the violence of Somalian drug lords, I am at a loss for words.

The difference is Organized fighting for the betterment of a mans life and his ability to prosper as it's goal.

Punk anarchist kids burning cars and busting insured windows for three days and then running home to their parents house and getting drunk and dying their hair green to commemorate their weekend extravaganza at the expense of a life time of freedoms lost is not the same thing.

If you can not see that, I am at a loss for words.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by Izarith]



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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I'll protest to save the environment, or anything to do with damage done to our earth... But I never got why ppl protest the Wealth of others...

The super ritch are treated as the enemy..., why?

I'm not ritch, in fact I'm nearly penniless, but if I were to win $100m tomorrow or come up with some new product that made me a multi-Billionaire, would I then be considered an enemy?

Isn't capitalism all about giving anyone with the injinuity the chance to become wealthy? So if someone earns their wealth, why are they picked on by those too dumb or lazy to go do it for themselves?

Is it because they don't share their wealth? Why should they? They earned it, so why give any of it to someone who dosen't deserve it?

Can anyone here point out to me why its wrong to become wealthy?



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 01:03 AM
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I don't think there is anything wrong with being wealthy...

There is nothing wrong with being rich and prospering.

But turning the entire world into a corporate chicken factory, and making us all eat our own recycled crap before we are shipped to KFC for processing is not something I look forward too.

The G20 has nothing to do with rich people. It's about corporate taking over the world. There is not person there attending that meeting that does not belong to a corporation.

Nintendo the private company is not attending the G20. The rich oil tycoon is not Attending the G20. The genius entrepreneur was not invited to that meeting.

The only people attending that meeting are communist corporate mobsters who are members of organized crime.

If you think this meeting has anything to do with capitalism, I'd like to see you sell some hot dogs right outside that huge wall Of china they just built specifically for them.

But you know it's funny to hear an environmentalist support those who are currently killing the Gulf of Mexico. It's just a tad ironic if you ask me.



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 01:32 AM
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More news from the Vancouver Sun.

Again, agent provocateurs are showing off their dirty handiwork to the globalist elite, unduly impressed by their violent and riotous actions, which has helped bolster their cause outlawing free speech.





posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 01:52 AM
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The government does not hesitate to use violence or threaten violence (using the police or military) to bring about any change it desires (be it against its own citizens or internationally).

But it's ok for the government to be quick to use violence and not the people!

The government knows what's best for you!

The government is always ethical and moral!


So keep being a good, obedient citizen and remember your place. How dare you use violence against your owners? After all they have done for you!

If you still have a thirst for violence then why not sign up to become a police officer or federal agent? Remember, only government approved violence is ok and it is only ok for people in power to use violence. The people on ATS who forget these simple rules really bug me.




Stay safe anarchists!









[edit on 27-6-2010 by Azp420]



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 02:10 AM
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My impression of these protesters has always been that they are a bunch of spoiled little turds with trust funds who don't have to worry about ever having a real job. This is what they do when school is out because they want to look, and feel, important.

As I said, that's my first impression, although I must admit I've never been very well informed on this issue. So there it is - before you besiege my username with angry posts, I freely admit beforehand that I could be wrong on this. I doubt it though, and this is how I honestly feel about it.

I've always had a deep suspicion that there are those in society who over-idealize the activists of yesteryear, and seek to embody that style of political righteousness. The problem is that there are so few worthy causes left. Because of this dilemma, they have created a few new ones such as climate change, genetically modified food, and this whole G20 business.

That's too bad, because I would love to have fresh, out-of-season strawberries and ultra low cholesterol eggs. I probably would too, if it weren't for these bums.



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