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The Machine must be stopped! No Excuses!

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posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by Spirit777
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You can not talk of how you will bring down the machine/society/system/economy/war/entertainment/commerce/industry....everything you know.

Replace it with mother nature abiding, respecting and living in harmony with it humans.

This is not an answer.




posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:18 AM
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Good questions.

Haven't a clue because any kind of power corrupts absolutely.

There is enough of everything to go around, but most people are in agreement to letting a few have most of everything and the majority having little to nothing.

Example: I have posted a hundred times on Beyonce being worth 461 million dollars as of February 2010.

Most people say, so what, she's worth it.....bla bla bla

No, this is just one sample of a very unfair system.

Beyonce is worth 461 million because she can get people sexually excited and the guy who flips your hamburger, washes out your company toilets and watches your child barely makes enough to put a roof over their head and food.

The system as it is now is completely insane but most people don't see the forest through the trees.

People that do the real work should be paid well and people that don't do the real work of maintaining our existence shouldn't make hundreds of millions of dollars.

Here in America our Senators and Congress get retirement packages the average citizen can only dream about.

Until the majority of people wake up and unite and demand a stop to this ludicris system it will continue with a few sitting down at the table and cutting themselves 3/4 of the pie, leaving 1/4 for the rest of us to fight over.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:19 AM
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You can not change the system externally but only internally.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:19 AM
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Some answers must be patiently awaited.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by Spirit777
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I am the solution.


Why dont you do one and quit wasting everybody's time, give some real #ing answers instead of just trolling.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by Spirit777
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Some answers must be patiently awaited.


You are full of #.




You're just another child (not speaking particularly of mortal age) whose naivete about the world has been broken. You wish to fix everything but lack the answers and are thus angry at "the system".


We've all been there. You'll learn to deal with it.

[edit on 6/26/2010 by eNumbra]



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by eNumbra
Can you even define this system?

What is it? How will you destroy it? With what shall it be replaced?


I don't wish to appear ignorant because i am far from it.

You ask what is it?

In a sense it is everything. It is a prison which we can not see. We know it is there, we sense it.

To give my best definition the System that socities around the world create are created by those who hold the wealth to create them. These wealthy creators have devised an intelligent system by which all but themsleves are the producers of the sustanance required to maintain the system and keep the wealthy creating. The question is what are they creating and why? To answer this we have to go back to the begining of the idea which created the ideals of a system to sustain its own growth and total control. This is where we find the answer of who is behind the system.

It will be destroyed by its own awakening. When those very wealthy creators realise that they have actually been destroying themselves.
That is when the system will fall away and a new one put in its place.

One that houses us all equally and makes us all equally responsible for our own actions and inactions. One that allows us to be free, conscious and loving human beings.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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We are fighting the same war. Lets not fight each other. Don't alllow our indiffrences to impede on something greater, more important and more significant than us.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by Spirit777
One that houses us all equally and makes us all equally responsible for our own actions and inactions. One that allows us to be free, conscious and loving human beings.


If we are all housed equally then how can we be free? Being responsible for ourselves is what makes us totally free, taking away any of that responsibility for anything removes that freedom.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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We are all one. When we stop looking from an individual perspective but a collective one all the lines and borders dissapear.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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Lol this is some of the best drama I have seen since I watched wrestling.
I happen to be happy with the functioning of my machine, you however seem to be dissatisfied and procrastinate by venting online. Is this your excuse?
Grandma used to say “S**t or get off the pot!”
No star no flag, oh by the way happy Saturday morning.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 09:07 AM
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If Cynthia Mckinney is going to be in that remote untapped spot of Earth then I'll stay here under lock and key. That woman is crazy and more authoritarian than anyone we've put in the White House.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:00 AM
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please dont get me wrong, this is no offense, but discipline brings alot of advantages and is a high value of our existence.
if this "machine" you talk about gave us discipline, i am at least thankful for it.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Spirit777
That is honestly how i feel.

Im tired of being inside the Matrix.

I want to destroy it, stop it in its tracks, wake up to it, single it out.

This machine which we live inside...the system that houses us.....who's whole we are all parts of is pulling us over the edge of a cliff and we are about to go down with it.

[edit on 26-6-2010 by Spirit777]


Then it is time to extricate your self from the matrix...

Rise from fear, anger, any lower emotions. Live in joy, no matter what circumstances you are muddled in. Be the calm in the center of the storm.

Don't fall prey to the dark ones, they tap in to the collective and make you believe what you are thinking comes from you... Learn to hear your OWN VOICE through all of the chatter....

This will lead you to the kingdom of heaven within.

[edit on 26-6-2010 by blujay]



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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We are here to learn from this machine. It is setup for us to learn. If you are not learning, you are not getting ahead. The lessons is what we take out of this Matrix. It is setup for our benefit.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 12:13 PM
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The Machine must be stopped! No Excuses!

That is honestly how i feel.

Im tired of being inside the Matrix.

I want to destroy it, stop it in its tracks, wake up to it, single it out.

This machine which we live inside...the system that houses us.....who's whole we are all parts of is pulling us over the edge of a cliff and we are about to go down with it.



Your OP made sense... You described the feelings that many people are going through, with regards to the path society is taking... Your OP made you sound like one of us... another victim who wants change...

But you have gone from victim to messiah in just a few short pages?!?!




Many ATSers know who I claim to be.

It is not i who needs belief but all of you. In me.



It’s as if you see yourself as some cross between Morpheus and Yoda... some highly enlightened being looking down on all of us lost souls and answer with yoda-esque style response...

**in the voice of Yoda**

"look inwards at yourself and truth shall you know, Hmmm?"

Basically, you’re saying nothing new... but saying it in a way that you think sounds clever, when in fact it doesn’t.
After your initial OP I have found myself shaking my head at the way you answer posts with self absorbed open ended questions.

I now do not think that you see yourself as a victim... or that you really care... it feels more as if you just want everyone to drop at your feet and proclaim you Guru!

You want us to destroy this machine... cool... you want us to replace it with the one you’ve just built in your mums house while on your laptop?? Laters!!



I know that this post sounds blunt... and i don’t want to offend... but I’m just being honest... and your posts sound like the sort of rhetoric that comes from cult leaders...

Often what they say is open ended... not because of some mystic universal truth and enlightenment... but simply because they have no answers and no goals other than to control those around them.

In my opinion, you sir... Are Matrix 2.0

Sorry


Tip: You would get more respect if you didn’t answer people in the style of a teacher talking to a teenager... To answer a grown adult with an open-ended question is patronising in my opinion.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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Instead of making useless threads of matrix garbage why dont you "wake up" and tell "the machine" that your fed up instead of trying to prompt others into taking your little stand for you. If your half as self righteous as you pretend to be why dont you do it? oh because either A. You know what your saying is bull# or B. Your a coward. Personally I dont believe the government is as united and powerful as alot of people here do (though I will agree i despise our government). Because if they were all powerful they would have done it by now. Last year it was h1n1 and fema camps so tell me what will it be this year? Will obama turn out to be a Martian bent on bringing us to his home world? Seriously get a grip on yourself man.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 02:01 PM
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Oh, I want to end this madness more than anyone!

To that end, my partner and I joined his ability to invent and my grasp of the economic system to write a book.

That book is free here on ATS and is linked in my thread here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thank you for your justified outrage, and an opportunity to invite everyone to read what I see clearly as a solution, an end to our present beset-upon system.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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Have you tried rebooting? If all else fails you could try a total reinstallation of the OS - personally I'd suggest Linux.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by Spirit777
reply to post by Firefly_
 


We are fighting the same war. Lets not fight each other. Don't alllow our indiffrences to impede on something greater, more important and more significant than us.


Under YOUR leadership? Why you? What makes you special? You have not offered anything yet you want people to follow you? You have a lot to learn cos you are still half asleep, if you are not actually the "enemy".



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