Mad as hell - The real face of the BP oil catastrophe, page 3


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reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 11:34 PM by Threadfall
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Originally posted by Threadfall
reply to post by BlackOps719

For you to say such things, OP, I'm sure you don't own a car or buy plastics. I think BP is mostly responsible too, but corporate avarice is driven by consumer avarice and, therefore, in my own miniscule am responsible as well.

Now if you've never bought gasoline or petroleum based products, then you are not being a hypocrite and I'm sorry.




Sorry friend, but the blame the consumer angle just doesn't fly. Im no more responsible for this clusterf*** in the gulf than I am responsible for the Exon Valdez disaster because I drink alcohol.
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BlackOps, that is a not an accurate representation of what I said and you know it. Blaming you for the Exxon Valdez spill because you like alcohol is as absurd as blaming me for the GOM spill because I like alcohol. The fact is that our affinities for booze had nothing to with either (not including the Exxon Valdez captain ) but our affinities for oil have. I'm not a person that blames the consumer, either. All I meant to say was that it is naive for an individual to put 100% of the blame on a corporation unless said individual has completely removed themselves from the system. I don't blame myself or others like me, but unlike the OP, I at least acknowledge that I've helped feed the beast, so to speak.


reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 11:59 PM by badw0lf
Regardless if you or I use products that came from oil, or whether we have the choice to use it or not, the fact remains that this disaster was entirely avoidable. BP - indeed ALL in the oil industry - are the ones solely responsible for contingency plans for just such events. And they failed miserably. 30 years ago the same tactics were tried and failed. 30 years later, the morons tried the same failed tactics.

These ignorant money hungry monsters are the only ones responsible.

We may all in one way or another be partly to blame for their existence - whether because we failed to FORCE change and stop using their poison, or because we willingly choose to do so because it's cheap - BUT we are not responsible for the methods by which these idiots manage their operations.

They should have better, FAR better, contingency plans than to sit on their hands and go "Oh lets try this... Oh that didn't work.. Umm, how about this?"

NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

I am sick to my stomach every time I view the live feeds. Every time I consider that this catastrophe was simply borne out of greed and cost cutting, lack of proper planning and plain and utter ignorance.

Would a doctor given the responsibility of ensuring the safety of ONE life dare just cut into the skull of the patient, with no backup plan should something catastrophic occur? No.

These clowns in the oil industry are entirely responsible for failing to act responsibly, and by god they should be dismantled and a different avenue of energy/product manufacture be sought. It is not as if we do not have options. These miscreants should be forced to pay for any costs to deliver them rather than be allowed to continue counting the dollars going into their god damned pockets.




reply posted on 26-6-2010 @ 12:01 AM by predator0187
reply to post by Ektar


The music is mad world by gary jules.

Brilliant song if you actually listen to the lyrics. I have always loved it!

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reply posted on 26-6-2010 @ 12:14 AM by mjsmor
reply to post by BlackOps719


seriously, this bp disaster is the icing on the cake when it comes to greed and the lack of care about the lives these companies destroy. i dont just see one side of the fence, i realize that we need the resources the oil/gas companies provide, but at what cost to obtain them? it seems ironic to have the bp disaster right after the documentary "gasland" hit the airwaves, telling of hydrolic fracture drilling contaminating massive land areas and ground water supplies in many of our states. And thats supposed to be CLEAN NATURAL GAS, just goes to show what they think of the small people in the way of a PROFIT...................................


reply posted on 26-6-2010 @ 12:39 AM by sunryse
reply to post by Nomad451


Your post is so very very true. We are dependant in everything we are. Who doesn't use a telephone that relies on plastic that is made with petroleum. This is our own disaster.


reply posted on 26-6-2010 @ 01:10 AM by AdmiralX
reply to post by BlackOps719


Well said. I want prosecutions, prison time, seizure of assets, maybe worse.



reply posted on 26-6-2010 @ 02:20 AM by MisterSinister
reply to post by Nomad451


Are you kidding? You gotta be man. Only the SIMPLE MINDED would resort to such a biased conclusion. We are all to blame, hey? Every single product or invention which establishes a foothold to escape from our collective dependence on this filthy product is destroyed. Either by a swift purchase of plans and patents, plus a quick bribe of a few million dollars. The ceramic engine (which employs zero oil), high output steam engines, electric battery technology (battery companies are owned by various organisations and businesses which lead back to oil companies. Follow the money trail), the list goes on - in which technology is improving in leaps and bounds are being suppressed by those who stand to lose the most. There are thousands of products out there which are of major benefit to us all. If not directly, then indirectly via a cleaner environment, less pollutants, more clean jobs and the overall freedom of our species, which do not fall into the "planned obsolescence" category. Industrial hemp would save the world. And before any potentially bigoted misunderstandings about industrial hemp, do your research on the subject and see how redundant oil really is. What you know to be truth today will not necessarily be truth tomorrow.

Our dependence on oil is a choice we do not have very much power in making. The only thing which improves choice is money and power. Anything which offers a clear path from lies and deceit is HEAVILY regulated, discredited at mass by established institutions.

I think you're unaware of more than you're aware of. I don't wish to waste any more time here on this thread. There are more constructive things to be done right now. But I could not scroll past your comment without your ignorance smacking me in the face. You need more self education on thinking for yourself and not letting the established institutions sway your critical thinking, especially at a time like this.

Peace bro.
Hope you find some of your own answers soon.


reply posted on 26-6-2010 @ 02:22 AM by sputniksteve
reply to post by BlackOps719


I think your anger is misplaced. Do you really think any of the people you named did this on purpose or intended for this to happen? I am not saying I am not as angry as you are, but think about what you are saying.


reply posted on 26-6-2010 @ 02:28 AM by solo32_98
reply to post by BlackOps719

Thank you for posting this. But, please; let's not jump on a bandwagon here ...
Where were the people of the Gulf when companies like BP moved in? Who was parading with placards 50 years ago insisting residents were selling out a drying up, dangerous industry?
I'm sorry, but, someone has to be the lone voice in the wilderness here saying, "I told you so".
The current oil spill is merely a reflection of society's insatiable appetite for crude and the perils held within.
Please stop gawking at the poor little birdies (insert "children, mammals, mothers, critters") on the PC and do something that will assist mother Earth. She needs us now more than ever.
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