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Obama internet "kill switch "bill approved

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posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:21 PM
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Suppose there are people in powerful positions that are actually painting this picture to make you focus on a figurehead and place the blame there?

I suspect someone else is in control of this publicity. And I bet things are not really as they seem.




posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:25 PM
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It's really not as simple as some people seem to think.
The real world is not south park, there is no magical modem that contains all of the internet and can just be switched off. If it was that easy, then the so called terrorists would do just that rather than try to bomb airplanes or stuff like that. (Which I'm very skeptic about anyway, however this is not the time nor the place)

So, I'd say we can all take a deep breath, drink more coffee (or whatever you prefer) and just continue our day. This is making Obama look more "evil" and to make some people think he has "power".
Fact of the matter is that I cant see any logical way of shutting down the internet by pressing a button.
That is not to say that it cannot be done, but to do something you'd need VERY extreme measures, like lets say..
Make every computer connected to the internet have some kind of software that lets them connect to the internet, they'd need to log on to a server (or, rather, get a "green light" from said server) to get to the internet. Now, if you can do that then..well, then sure I guess you could block everyone from accessing the internet.
And even if you blocked people from accessing the internet..the internet would still exist.

Short version:
This is merely a PR stunt if even that. There is no magic button that can destroy the internet.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:29 PM
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OK, i read it. So under cyber attack the president can cut internet services, to who ever he feels is vital to stop the attack. YOU ARE BEING MONITORED AT THIS MOMENT. (the twilight zone music, please.) REALITY.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Klavier
It's really not as simple as some people seem to think.
The real world is not south park, there is no magical modem that contains all of the internet and can just be switched off.

Short version:
This is merely a PR stunt if even that. There is no magic button that can destroy the internet.


But what if my entire world view is based on South Park episodes? You're shattering my world! Ahhhhh!!! Just kidding, you're right but that episode was very funny!

Actually the very design of the internet is structured to make it robust enough to continue to function if many nodes go down. You can ping a server and see it may not even take hops through the same route each time.

What this means is that even if the US shut down a lot of US nodes, the rest of the internet could continue to operate, the hops would just take different paths through different nodes. In fact, it was designed to operate in precisely this way so it WILL continue to function if nodes go down.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
This is one of the many reasons that the rest of the world hates the United States. The people in power there think that they are leaders of the world. They don't own the internet, so what gives them the right to pass bills such as this one which enables them to shut it down completely?



[edit on 6-25-2010 by CPYKOmega]


CPYKOmega, you are naive. The US owns the foundation of the Internet, it used to be called WWMCCS (World Wide Military Command & Control System) -- an interlinking of large mainframes & smaller mid-sized computers created to serve US military decision-making & fast implementation of orders.

Unless the foundation has changed radically, where there is actually an independent alternate Net that can function even if the original Net is disabled.

News is controlled everywhere. If the Internet is turned off, we are without REAL news. Mainstream Media (MSM) is completely corporate-owned & controlled.

Look at how little of the Gulf Oil Spill stories/reports make it into the MSM.

Astroved



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:01 PM
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The majority of Americans will never hear about this kill-switch.

If the Internet goes down they'll think it's just a glitch.

Our Internet was down twice last week just because of thunderstorms.

So if he did ever use the kill-switch, how would we know?

Also, our server "routes" through Washington DC. It goes from So Dakota, to Chicago, to Washington DC, to Pennsylvania. So yeah, I can see a big red button that say "Kill Switch" sitting right on the desk in the oval office.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:11 PM
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It will get voted down. Guaranteed. This is just a Democrat ploy to get as many useless bills in front of the Senate before November. Before they all get their arses voted out of office for being useless.

If this is a matter of national security, then I'm an alien from Nibiru, and my planet will be coming back in a little over 2 years to destroy the human race.

Obumbles, there is only so much power you can take before your people bite back. You take away the internet (which probably couldn't happen anyway), and you better believe that you will have every person in the country with a gun on your front door.

See what happens if this bill passes. You'll wish you never won, I mean stole the White House.


Burn in Hell Lieberman.

-truthseeker



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by StevenDye
He can't use it...ever.

I know we all like to say America will never go to war with the world blah blah...but if he killed the internet. The economy in every other country would crumble...do you really think they would allow it?

Every nuke across the world would be pointed in Americas direction and Obama would be forced to undo it. Never mind the fact cutting off the internet is also a death sentence to his own economy.

Even cutting it for a few hours in a terrorist attack would cost countries billions...it just wouldn't be deemed acceptable. And by more rogue nations could be considered an act of cyber terrorism by the government and therefore a declaration of war.


Facing all that...would YOU dare to flick that switch.


The internet kill switch legislation is basically shutting down all online dissent against the globalist elite frontman Obama and his handlers.

The United States is moving toward a China-like fascist system as we type. Oh, wait a minute, it is already here!



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:21 PM
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Sorry for the one liner but read this. China does it all the time.
www.infowars.com...



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:22 PM
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I've never read it, I'm in Aus so I'm looking at what it might mean over here



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:22 PM
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wtf is up with all these executive permission bills lately?

Less dictating PLEASE! Its bad enough, stop making it worse!



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Wolf321
To Americans and Freedom-loving peoples of the world:

We let them take, and take and continue to let them squeeze the life right out of us! We whine, we get in our little tea party picnics, we stand in out town halls shaking with rage fingers pointed, yelling that we have had enough. We threaten to vote them out, as if it really mattered. Have we regained any of our liberties that have been taken away?! Is the government in a position to fear the people?

We have nothing left!

If you think 'we the people' have any power, you must be wrong; because nothing 'we' have done from the aforementioned list has give the people any more power OVER government, or made us any free-er.

I am beginning to think that America is a lost cause. While I used to believe that, to quote Mr.Smith Goes to Washington, that lost causes "were the only causes worth fighting for," I can't say anything we have done has proven much of a fight for those who define the battle and control all the players.



[edit on 25-6-2010 by Wolf321]


Wolf321, don't give up just yet.

It's true Obama does NOT care at all about what the majority of US citizens want:

Look at the Obamacare Bill he jammed down our throats,

the 2,000 page Financial "Reform" Bill (that will scr*w the average American and is the first step in NATIONALIZING our banks) that is being rammed thru Congress now,

the endangerment of US citizens in Arizona ( & the rest of the US) by supporting the Illegals & a porous border (Obama wants Amnesty so the former 12 MILLION Illegals will vote for him),

the REFUSAL to waiver the Jones Act to help save the Gulf Coast,

the moratorium on offshore drilling that will help destroy the US oil industry & deprive the US of billions of $$$ in revenue,

the promise of a $2 Billion dollar loan to Petrobras (state-run Brazilian oil company) to explore offshore Ultra-Deep Water drilling at over 14,000 feet. (Ignore the fact that George Soros has over $600,000,000 (over half a BILLION dollars) invested in Petrobras and is poised to make a fortune from the moving of US oil rigs out of the Gulf.)

the nomination of Kagan, who has NEVER served as a JUDGE, to the Supreme Court (a position she will hold for LIFE) -- a person who will serve the agenda of the Hard Left (anti-military, pro-Gay Socialist crowd).

etc, etc, ad nauseum.

If something happens where the Nov 2010 elections are postponed/cancelled or the Dems find a way to steal the elections, THEN lose hope.

I believe Obama is a narcissistic sociopath who cares only about Obama. As long as Obama gets POWER & his cut of the pie, he does NOT care about anyone else. Obama is also a natural DICTATOR. He is in the process of selling the US out.

Astroved



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 11:57 PM
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does anyone think this has anything to do with the WIKI leaks video going to be released soon!? and that country being able to have freedom of the press! or somthing like that!

maybe the information that wikileaks got was huge and if it gets released it would cause epic maddness! shut down as soon as its released, than cut them up in pieces!



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 12:19 AM
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The whole thing reminds me of that quote from one of the Star Wars movies-
" So this is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by Astroved
If something happens where the Nov 2010 elections are postponed/cancelled or the Dems find a way to steal the elections, THEN lose hope.


I don't think it is necessary. They have learned how to manipulate the system, to effectively be dictators, without the typical ending term limits, canceling elections or even keeping the same figurehead in office. All the while, they used this system to restrict and control but maintaining the illusion of being the peoples advocates or championing freedom.

Elections won't save us. They are now just another tool in the magicians bag of tricks.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 12:32 AM
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I really hope this doesn't happen, i can't imagine looking at paper porn again.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 12:39 AM
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Wait! What if E.T. wants to greet everyone `en mass` via the internet and the important messages therein were suddenly `switched off` by Obama and pals? Hmmm. Interesting thoughts.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Wolf321

Originally posted by Astroved
If something happens where the Nov 2010 elections are postponed/cancelled or the Dems find a way to steal the elections, THEN lose hope.


I don't think it is necessary. They have learned how to manipulate the system, to effectively be dictators, without the typical ending term limits, canceling elections or even keeping the same figurehead in office. All the while, they used this system to restrict and control but maintaining the illusion of being the peoples advocates or championing freedom.

Elections won't save us. They are now just another tool in the magicians bag of tricks.


Wolf321, you may be right, but if we give up NOW, the "Triumph of Evil" is assured. I still believe that there are politicians who actually care about the US. (Okay, there may not be many of them.) We cannot give up just yet. They haven't shut down the Internet yet.

Astroved



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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It can be shut down for up to 4 months without approval from congress. Much can happen to us in 4 months and few would know. Very scary.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 07:35 AM
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Man I can't believe this might be happening to my beloved Internet, the only remaining free place int the world...cyberspace.

I can't believe this....

If this bill passes you can kiss the last piece of dignity you have as a human being goodbye.

They have taken our land and sold it at pennies on the dollar....

They have taken our food, and poisoned it....

They have taken our water, and sell it to us as if the world was 3/4 Earth...

They have taken our rights to the point that we are but animals for them to do with us as they wish.....

They have turned our children against us....

And now they are going to take the only place we have left.....The InterWeb.....

That is what the quintessential meaning of Bull Crap.


Where are all the haxzars of the world? where it that fake wannabe group Anonymous?

We can't let this happen.......butt we will...wont we.



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