reply to post by Skyfloating
from a spiritual perspective, intelligence is also:
A human is a WHOLE thing, not only a brain.
So from this perspective, if someone is either emotionally ill OR mentally ill, there is something missing to his WHOLESOMEness and therefore, in my
definition, in his INTELLIGENCE.
I do respect your thoughts on this, and to some extent, I agree, considering a holistic assessment of human functioning, which I call "global
functioning", and refer to it as needed.
However, when one is focusing on esoteric definitions then one should level the playing field at the outset, by giving definitions and clarifications,
don't you think?
You made the statement to another poster that you don't consider one who "goes to church on Sunday, to be doing well spiritually".
So by that statement, you do clearly open the door for separation of the areas of functioning. They of course, do operate together, to create the
wholeness of who we are, when we are clicking on six cylinders.
There are intellectual "Over-rides". If one is terrified to step outside, one might "override" the emotion of fear, by telling himself, and
relying on the encouragement of others, that it is okay. So, the intellect over-rides the emotion. The spirit might override intentional cruelty.
The spirit might provide encouragement when despair is trying to dominate.
If a mother is in bed with a depressive episode, and her child is crying for help, she will get up to go see about the child. Her desire to help her
child overrides her desire to stay in bed with the covers pulled over her head.
So it all does work together, and in a what can be a lovely and deliciously complicated way. But one does not simply negate the other, particularly
in the scenario we are discussing; the life and work of Charles Darwin. You know this from history, and I won't presume to give a list of examples,
although I could.
When mood is poor, we are sometimes impotent to accomplish. I doubt if Darwin made his theory, or wrote his book, when he was having an episode,
although there are plenty of others who employed their depression for such. (Honore de Balzac, case in point, who said if it wasn't for depression
and alcohol, he would never have written a word). lol.
Even if one area goes underdeveloped, or unrecognized, it is still at play. I might not read and study to improve my intelligence. I might not
meditate, or do things to nurture my spirit. I might not give in to my emotions, and be angry as much as I like, or cry as much as I like. I might
not even acknowledge that I have these feelings.
But they remain. There are there, whether I acknowledge them or not.
On a particular day, I might be able to focus on one. If I am in a state of grief, I have no choice but to give way to my emotions.
If I am focused, writing a paper or making a presentation, I must then rely on my intellect.
So here, we see the "overrides", and our ability to focus on one specific area of our functioning, whether it be physical, intellectual, or
You can do this. I can do this. We all can. Charles Darwin could do it too, and obviously did a heck of a job.
Of course I have read his theory, who hasn't. But I knew almost nothing of the man's personal life and private characteristics. But having
reviewed the information presented here, I am in fact, admiring him all the more, for seeing the obstacles he overcame, the demons he wrestled with,
and the downright fortitude he showed in being able to produce such a piece of work, in view of his issues. Now that's a man who is intelligent.
Gotta go to work now.
ETA: The overrides don't always work with severe mental illness. This is why they are called mental illness.
But other than having depressive episodes, and generalized anxiety, I don't think it is proven here that Darwin was psychotic, or had any other
disorder which would have effected his writing The Origin of the Species, or developing the theory of evolution.
Now, Sky. Admit it.
[edit on 6/28/2010 by ladyinwaiting]