So when it's the law to take vaccines, you're going to take it? So when it's the law to be chipped, your gonna be chipped? So when it's the law
to spy on your neighbour, you're gonna be a rat? Dont you see the pattern that going on.. Our freedoms are being systematically taken away. You
seem like an intelligent man. The freeman society is all about love and respect.. It's about a peacefull coexistance. The law states that they can
walk in your house for no reason. Is that what you're defending?
Police encounter. Freeman gets off driving without a license., page 3
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reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 03:34 PM by Geeky_Bubbe
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
Not being familiar with SC laws and just skimming through the link you posted here is one out right here and there is probably others but I don't have time to go through it all. When you buy a new car the Dealer usually sends the MCO (Manufacturers Certificate of Origin) to the county or state where the car is to be registered. Then they issue a certificate of Title. Note a certificate of title is not the title it is a document stating there is a title. The real proof of ownership is the MCO. So who hold the MCO now? The County. So you are given permission to drive THEIR vehicle as long as you follow their rules. The Key is to get the MCO. Then you are not subject to the corporate rules. IOW if they do not have the MCO they cannot issue a COT because they do not have jurisdiction unless you voluntarily give it to them.
If the car is used then there are procedures you can go through to get the car out of the system but you are dealing with ignorant brainwashed bureaucrats so it can be a lot of work, and of course having no license plates or unusual license plates makes you a magnet for getting pulled over. Some people choose to do it on principle and have been quite successful. It depends on your area also some areas of more tolerant then others but it can be done by anyone who is determined and willing to preserver.
No. You just have to take the proper documentation to the highway department and show that it exists and is in order.
Both of our vehicles are paid in full and we "own the titles" for each. Should we sell one of them, say for $1.00, the new owner would own the vehicle and the title. He would then take that title to the Dept of Motor Vehicles proving ownership, along with proof of having paid the taxes, or current taxes on a license plate his is simply transferring to his brand new $1.00 vehicle, and of course, proof of insurance. The state does not maintain any of these documents, nor "own" them in any way. Showing proof that they exist and are in order is all that is required.
Restating: Have a free and clear title does not magically allow you to operate your paid for private property on the public roadways without having the proper license.
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 03:35 PM by verylowfrequency
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
As has been mentioned - fuel taxes are what pay for our highway infrastructure. At least that which isn't siphoned off for other uses by parasites.
Once that fact destroys your argument, you speculate that he might be making his own fuel - thus bypassing fuel taxes.
So, he paid for his share to use the highway. If you're still jealous, find a better argument.
As has been mentioned - fuel taxes are what pay for our highway infrastructure. At least that which isn't siphoned off for other uses by parasites.
Once that fact destroys your argument, you speculate that he might be making his own fuel - thus bypassing fuel taxes.
So, he paid for his share to use the highway. If you're still jealous, find a better argument.
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 03:37 PM by Grossac
Originally posted by Geeky_Bubbe
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
Both of our vehicles are paid in full and we "own the titles" for each. Should we sell one of them, say for $1.00, the new owner would own the vehicle and the title. He would then take that title to the Dept of Motor Vehicles proving ownership, along with proof of having paid the taxes, or current taxes on a license plate his is simply transferring to his brand new $1.00 vehicle, and of course, proof of insurance. The state does not maintain any of these documents, nor "own" them in any way. Showing proof that they exist and are in order is all that is required.
Restating: Have a free and clear title does not magically allow you to operate your paid for private property on the public roadways without having the proper license.
'Registration' of anything transfers superior ownership to the entity accepting the registration. Once an item has been registered, you are no longer the OWNER (even though you will still be paying for the item), but instead you become the KEEPER. This includes cars, houses, children (who become 'wards of the state' by virtue of a birth registration),
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 03:52 PM by Esoteric Teacher
reply to post by Grossac
Nice Avatar and OP.
made me think a little of .. Morgan Freeman's Through the Wormhole.
Here ya go Sovereigns, a helping hand...
"America is not a nation of men. It is a nation of laws."
- General/President George Washington
i am not a man, just an accumilation of laws,
ET, the anonymous american
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]
Nice Avatar and OP.
made me think a little of .. Morgan Freeman's Through the Wormhole.
Here ya go Sovereigns, a helping hand...
Dear Police Officers,
What is the number of mandatory expectations (laws) that any one citizen must adhere to (by law) in order to conform to your societies' required
obligations?
A number of laws, please.
if you don't know the number, how do we know you are effectively enforcing the laws, or even know them? you can't even count them.
"America is not a nation of men. It is a nation of laws."
- General/President George Washington
i am not a man, just an accumilation of laws,
ET, the anonymous american
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 04:04 PM by Geeky_Bubbe
Originally posted by verylowfrequency
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
As has been mentioned - fuel taxes are what pay for our highway infrastructure. At least that which isn't siphoned off for other uses by parasites.
Once that fact destroys your argument, you speculate that he might be making his own fuel - thus bypassing fuel taxes.
So, he paid for his share to use the highway. If you're still jealous, find a better argument.
Not at all. There is an entire segment of drivers who brew their own bio fuel or collect used fry oil from restaurants. We even purchased an old diesel "junker" for that exact purpose, with the added benefit that the engine would conveniently and without much cost or effort convert to a handy power plant for the home.
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 04:14 PM by verylowfrequency
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
Eventually we'll have more electrics on the road as well. I predict we'll all be moving toward a per mile use tax. We're leaning toward more toll roads with transponders here in WA, but maybe a GPS based system would be better.
Eventually we'll have more electrics on the road as well. I predict we'll all be moving toward a per mile use tax. We're leaning toward more toll roads with transponders here in WA, but maybe a GPS based system would be better.
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 04:23 PM by Grossac
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
Well what ever turns your crank.. You're brainwashed and mission accomplished with you. Keep taking in their bull. That system has never worked and it never will. Your government doesnt even follow it's own laws. Illegal wars all over. It's ok for them to break em but not the lowly peasants? Remain a slave to the "law society". At least you're now aware of the truth.
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Grossac]
Well what ever turns your crank.. You're brainwashed and mission accomplished with you. Keep taking in their bull. That system has never worked and it never will. Your government doesnt even follow it's own laws. Illegal wars all over. It's ok for them to break em but not the lowly peasants? Remain a slave to the "law society". At least you're now aware of the truth.
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Grossac]
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 04:31 PM by Geeky_Bubbe
Originally posted by Grossac
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
Well what ever turns your crank.. You're brainwashed and mission accomplished with you. Keep taking in their bull. That system has never worked and it never will. Your government doesnt even follow it's own laws. Illegal wars all over. It's ok for them to break em but not the lowly peasants? Remain a slave to the "law society". At least you're now aware of the truth.
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Grossac]
Hummmm... I posted this in an earlier reply to you, which you either didn't see or chose not to answer....
I conscientiously advocate and *work*, and financially support efforts to advocate and ensure the ideals America was founded upon. It's *easy* to complain in an anonymous internet forum and fantasize about being a "free anarchist." It's a whole other world to put your *face*, *name*, *reputation*, and *money* to guard our rights. I know what I do.... what do YOU do?
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 04:34 PM by Grossac
reply to post by PsykoOps
“The claim and exercise of a constitutional Right cannot be converted into a crime.” Miller vs. United States, 230 V. 486,489, (1956).
“There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional Rights.” Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F. 2d 946, (1973).
Streets and highways are established and maintained for the purpose of travel and transportation by the public. Such travel may be for business or pleasure.
“The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common and fundamental Right of which the public and the individual cannot be rightfully deprived.’ [Emphasis added] Chicago Motor Coach vs. Chicago, 169 N. E. 22 (1929); Ligare vs. Chicago, 28 N. E. 934 (1891); Boon vs. Clark, 214 S. W. 607 (1919); 25 Am. Jur. (1st) Highways Sect. 163.
and...
“The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” [Emphasis added] Thompson vs. Smith, 154 S.E. 579 (1930).
A Citizen has a Right to travel upon the public highways by automobile and the Citizen cannot be rightfully deprived of his Liberty. So where does the misconception that the use of the public road is always and only a privilege come from?
“...For while a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, that Right does not extend to the use of the highways, either in whole or in part, as a place for private gain. For the latter purpose no person has a vested right to use the highways of the state, but is a privilege or a license which the legislature may grant or withhold at its discretion.” State vs. Johnson, 243 P. 1073 (1926); Hadfield, supra; Cummins vs. Homes, 155 P. 171; Packard vs. Banton, 44 S. Ct. 256 (1924);
Here the courts held that a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways, but that he did not have the right to conduct business upon the highways. On this point of law all authorities are unanimous.
“Heretofore the court has held, and we think correctly, that while a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, that Right does not extend to the use of the highways, either in whole or in part, as a place of business for private gain.” Barney vs. Board of Railroad Commissioners, 17 P.2d 82 (1932); Willis vs. Buck, 263 P. 982 (1928).
and...
“The right of the citizen to travel upon the highway and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, differs radically and obviously from that of one who makes the highway his place of business for private gain in the running of a stagecoach or omnibus.” State vs. City of Spokane, 186 P. 864 (1920).
“The claim and exercise of a constitutional Right cannot be converted into a crime.” Miller vs. United States, 230 V. 486,489, (1956).
“There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional Rights.” Sherar vs. Cullen, 481 F. 2d 946, (1973).
Streets and highways are established and maintained for the purpose of travel and transportation by the public. Such travel may be for business or pleasure.
“The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common and fundamental Right of which the public and the individual cannot be rightfully deprived.’ [Emphasis added] Chicago Motor Coach vs. Chicago, 169 N. E. 22 (1929); Ligare vs. Chicago, 28 N. E. 934 (1891); Boon vs. Clark, 214 S. W. 607 (1919); 25 Am. Jur. (1st) Highways Sect. 163.
and...
“The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” [Emphasis added] Thompson vs. Smith, 154 S.E. 579 (1930).
A Citizen has a Right to travel upon the public highways by automobile and the Citizen cannot be rightfully deprived of his Liberty. So where does the misconception that the use of the public road is always and only a privilege come from?
“...For while a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, that Right does not extend to the use of the highways, either in whole or in part, as a place for private gain. For the latter purpose no person has a vested right to use the highways of the state, but is a privilege or a license which the legislature may grant or withhold at its discretion.” State vs. Johnson, 243 P. 1073 (1926); Hadfield, supra; Cummins vs. Homes, 155 P. 171; Packard vs. Banton, 44 S. Ct. 256 (1924);
Here the courts held that a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways, but that he did not have the right to conduct business upon the highways. On this point of law all authorities are unanimous.
“Heretofore the court has held, and we think correctly, that while a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, that Right does not extend to the use of the highways, either in whole or in part, as a place of business for private gain.” Barney vs. Board of Railroad Commissioners, 17 P.2d 82 (1932); Willis vs. Buck, 263 P. 982 (1928).
and...
“The right of the citizen to travel upon the highway and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, differs radically and obviously from that of one who makes the highway his place of business for private gain in the running of a stagecoach or omnibus.” State vs. City of Spokane, 186 P. 864 (1920).
reply posted on 25-6-2010 @ 04:37 PM by Grossac
reply to post by Geeky_Bubbe
Your not using the rights your defending. What's the point of defending them. Your judgment is obscured by many years of brainwashing.
I read this once
Going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
It applies to you and the IDEALS your supposedly defending.
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Grossac]
Your not using the rights your defending. What's the point of defending them. Your judgment is obscured by many years of brainwashing.
I read this once
Going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
It applies to you and the IDEALS your supposedly defending.
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Grossac]
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