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Source: Administration Weighs Bypassing Congress to Let Illegal Immigrants Stay

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posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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Source: Administration Weighs Bypassing Congress to Let Illegal Immigrants Stay


www.foxnews.com

The Obama administration has been holding behind-the-scenes talks to determine whether the Department of Homeland Security can unilaterally grant legal status on a mass basis to illegal immigrants, a former Bush administration official who spoke with at least three people involved in those talks told FoxNews.com.

The issue was raised publicly by eight Republican senators who wrote to the White House on Monday to complain that they had heard the administration was readying a "Plan B" in case
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posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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"The administration at the very minimum is studying legal ways to legalize people without having to go through any congressional debate about it," the source said, calling the senators' claim credible. "Whether somebody pulls the trigger on that, that's another issue."

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


It's hard for to believe a single word out of the mouth of a former Bush administration official, but this doesn't surprise me in the least. In fact, I was expecting something like this to happen. I have always known that immigration would be on Obama's agenda before the end of his first term. He has to energize his base and give them at least one accomplishments, especially since Obama has lied to his base about with just about everything he promised them. Could they really find a back door to amnesty?

If Obama is successful at this and gets reelected, our 2nd Amendment will be next on the agenda for his 2nd term and that's a check you can take to the bank.

--airspoon



www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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Amnesty. Okay, so nothing new since the other two topics or more topics about this posted in the last two days, other than they are now locked behind closed doors. With luck they'll have a real debate about the reality of the situation and the impact and cost.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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This would cause an uproar like America hasn't seen since 1861.

God help us.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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I think the scary thing here is that they are weighing it through DHS or even other alphabet agencies. Could you imagine the implications if such a large and controversial issue gets passed through an alphabet agency? If the American population allows that to happen - and they will - then nothing will be held back... nothing. Next up, you'll see the second Amendment go in the same way. Really, the sky would be the limit.

However, although this would be "some-what" new for the US, this kind of policy setting has been done in almost every tyrannical government of the last hundred years, from Nazi Germany to Bolshevik Russia and Mao's China.

--airspoon



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:17 AM
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If he does that, that gives Americans the right to bust a cap in his Ass. It seems to me this is what they want, they want us to start shooting, I mean How else can you explain the past 10 years?



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:21 AM
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so they have all their lobbyists paying off members of congress to the point where they are spineless yes men with the exception of Ron Paul and a very limited few others, and then when that fails, they just use the old executive order. I think the U.S. is far worse than Nazi Germany if only that the U.S. can hide its fascism behind a smiling face of democracy.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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Lobbyists? What do you mean?



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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I wonder if Obama's advisers are aware of how much backlash this will cause? More then a few Americans (myself included) are going to be none to happy if he goes through with this. I think this just might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:27 AM
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Obama Administration- "Just give em amnesty, the American people hate you anyways, might as well get something out of it while you can".

Another Line.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 07:41 AM
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The legacy of Bush. . .people have such short memories, when Bush was creating a bigger government and giving himself more powers in the executive branch, people in this boards were telling others that didn't believe in the dangers of such actions that the power grab will be the legacy of those, after Bush left the oval office.

Thanks to all that now Obama can use the executive powers to do as he wish and look for loopholes without approval of congress.

But . . . Can Obama truly, truly do that?. . . hum, no really, believe it or not, the whole issue of immigration has always been in the table and is actually a Republican party idea, remember Reagan amnesty?.

So all this smells to me like propaganda as mid term elections comes closer.


Unless Obama can give amnesty before November and have all those 20 million voters in his favor.


Is not going to happen, but it could for the next presidential elections . . .



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 08:10 AM
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The most they could do would be to issue a blanket order that allows illegal immigrants to apply for residency or work permits. The process to become a citizen takes an average of 9 years.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 08:12 AM
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Circumvent the checks on power, grant all the illegals some form of citizenship and give them 6 votes apiece like they are trying in NY, this is so blatant and out in the open I can't (don't want to) believe it!

I was considering giving myself a break from this stuff because I couldn't stand seeing how things are only getting worse on a daily basis concerning our now endangered rights and the transformation of our republic into a fascist dictatorship. The onslaught seems endless, but like a gawker at a train wreck, I can't look away from the destruction.

At least I took Spanish in HS. I'll be brushing up on that now, regardless if I like it or not.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by airspoon
 


If he does that, that gives Americans the right to bust a cap in his Ass. It seems to me this is what they want, they want us to start shooting, I mean How else can you explain the past 10 years?


As much as I don't like the guy as President, I wouldn't go as far as to want a "cap in his ass" after all, he is still our President. I think we ought to be careful what we wish for.

You know, I always say that even if we do vote Obama out office, we are just going to get someone equally as bad, if not more so. So, lets just say that Obama gets thrown out office (for whatever reason), we are just going to get someone else in office, who does not hold our interests or freedom at heart.

--airspoon



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 08:17 AM
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Actually this is been done as we speak and has been going on for a while.

But you always going to find those illegals that do not want to work for the system because they already have criminal backgrounds records in the US, many are just milking system one way or the other.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:04 AM
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Not to derail the thread but I have to
ask.

1. Where did this "six votes for hispanics"
crap get started?

2. How could someone's hatred of Obama
get them to believe this anyway?

Back on subject. Wouldn't a change as
drastic as that like changing our "citizenship"
requirements be like changing an Admendment,
therefore mandating 75% of the States
approval.

I do have to admit I am not where I
should be on Constitutional Requirements
and Governance.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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They are letting the ilegal imigrants take center stage so that everyone forgets to watch the bankers.

USA and Mexico will become one because they want you all to work for peanuts and this is why they are unable to police borders and now people are being put out of work they want to force the isue so these cheep workers can stay but sooner or later when they want to push through new laws they will carry out false flag attacks and blame the very immigrants they are trying to force people to except today.



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by capgrup
Not to derail the thread but I have to
ask.

1. Where did this "six votes for hispanics"
crap get started?

2. How could someone's hatred of Obama
get them to believe this anyway?

Back on subject. Wouldn't a change as
drastic as that like changing our "citizenship"
requirements be like changing an Admendment,
therefore mandating 75% of the States
approval.

I do have to admit I am not where I
should be on Constitutional Requirements
and Governance.


The "six votes for hispanics crap" happened in NY state. If I remember correctly it was at a White Plains city council vote. During this vote people were allowed to vote for up to 6 city council members. A judge ruled that people could vote for 1 candidate 6 times, or 2 candidates 3 times each, etc. Due to the demographics of the area, this heavily swung the balance of power to the hispanic voting block. By the way, the judge stated that his reason for this ruling was that he felt the hispanic residents were under-represented on the city council.

edit for fat fingers

[edit on 25-6-2010 by Doc Gator]

[edit on 25-6-2010 by Doc Gator]



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:34 AM
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Doc;

If that's the case then the bigger question
is why is this idiot still a "judge". By that
act alone it seems he violated the "Voting
Rights Act, Civil Rights Act, the Thirteenth
Admendment, and the Constitution of the
United States."

Where is the Dept. of Justice?



posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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That's BULL, how dare this judge go against the time honored American tradition of ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE! Uggh, I get more and more infuriated with each passing day
I can't wait to see Vichy America overthrown and the constitutional republic restored to power.




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