Considering I have been "working" as a fellow conspiracy theorist for 31 years now, since I was age 6, raised by a stepfather who was a Vietnam era
Marine, and a mother who divorced my father because of alcoholism, this may be the hardest thread I have ever written in my past five years on ATS, a
That's right, you heard me correct, since I was 6 years old, and I am saying "conspiracy theorists" will never "win", at least not in the
traditional sense of the word.
I put this thread in the Political Ideology
forum are for a reason because of our constant and conflicting political ideologies, as well as
difference of perspectives.
First before I go on I must define both what a "win" and a "loss" is by the basic definitions.
Quote from : Wikipedia : Win
A win is a victory.
Quote from Wikipedia : Loss
An event in which the team or individual in question did not win.
A pretty simple explanation if you ask me and now we go onto the conflict at the heart of the matter, and why a "win" will never happen, due to
Quote from : Wikipedia : Ideology : Political Ideology
Many political parties base their political action and program on an ideology.
In social studies, a Political Ideology is a certain ethical set of ideals, principles, doctrines, myths or symbols of a social movement, institution,
class, or large group that explains how society should work, and offers some political and cultural blueprint for a certain social order.
A political ideology largely concerns itself with how to allocate power and to what ends it should be used.
Some parties follow a certain ideology very closely, while others may take broad inspiration from a group of related ideologies without specifically
embracing any one of them.
Political ideologies have two dimensions:
1.Goals: how society should work (or be arranged).
2.Methods: the most appropriate ways to achieve the ideal arrangement.
An ideology is a collection of ideas.
Typically, each ideology contains certain ideas on what it considers to be the best form of government (e.g. democracy, theocracy, etc.), and the best
economic system (e.g. capitalism, socialism, etc.).
Sometimes the same word is used to identify both an ideology and one of its main ideas.
For instance, "socialism" may refer to an economic system, or it may refer to an ideology which supports that economic system.
Ideologies also identify themselves by their position on the political spectrum (such as the left, the center or the right), though this is very often
Finally, ideologies can be distinguished from political strategies (e.g. populism) and from single issues that a party may be built around (e.g.
opposition to European integration or the legalization of marijuana).
Philosopher Michael Oakeshott provides a good definition of ideology as "the formalized abridgment of the supposed sub-stratum of the rational truth
contained in the tradition."
Studies of the concept of ideology itself (rather than specific ideologies) have been carried out under the name of systematic ideology.
Political ideologies are concerned with many different aspects of a society, some of which are: the economy, education, health care, labor law,
criminal law, the justice system, the provision of social security and social welfare, trade, the environment, minors, immigration, race, use of the
military, patriotism and established religion.
There are many proposed methods for the classification of political ideologies. See the political spectrum article for a more in-depth discussion of
these different methods (each of whom generates a specific political spectrum).
After reading the definition above you should know that the reason conspiracy theorists cannot "win" is quite simple, in fact it is not through any
necessary actions of the elite.
When I reference the elite, I think of the power families which seem to have such an overabundance of funding, have the connection, have the means to
do pretty much any damn thing they want to, up to and including putting a President in office.
Whether your belief is in the election process and the electoral college, or the Secret Societies, or the alleged and as yet unproven Shadow
, the main reason we as conspiracy theorists cannot win, is not in the unlimited funding, unlimited corruption, and or unlimited secrets
they seem to have.
It is quite simple in fact, it is three words, and they always work, no matter what.
Divide and Conquer
It is a simple means of a lever, a fulcrum, and the exploitation of power.
The differences of belief systems, of how society works in each country, of the idealistic belief of how it should work, and the realistic means of
how it really works all comes into play.
But in the end it comes down over all to our own beliefs and how they are used against us.
Divide and Conquer : Political Ideology of the Power Elite, Selling The Peace, War Is The
Between the constant monitoring of the Internet, the telecommunications industry, and or people too stupid to know better, we quite simply cannot
At least not in the traditional sense of a win like on a score board in a game.
Because people are simply too afraid, too ignorant, or too lazy to do the right thing.
No, I am not pointing any fingers, nor am I making a point of any one particular person.
It is the entirety of the self-proclaimed "conspiracy theorist"
I am not referring to ATS, Info Wars, AmKon, or whatever other conspiracy community you may or may not belong to, but the entirety of all of them
There is zero unity between us but there is 100% unity between the elite.
There is zero belief of any one thing between all of us and 100% belief between the elite.
There is zero agreeing political ideology between us and 100% agreeing political ideology between the elite.
We as the conspiracy theorist community, whether it is ATS, Info Wars, or AmKon have such differing opinions, perspectives, beliefs, and education
But we outnumber the elite 100 to 1 as far as live bodies are concerned.
However, we cannot seem to agree upon one set thing, or one set ideal.
Or even one particular version of a conspiracy and or theory of one or the "official story".
It is not however that we cannot physically pick up guns and storm Washington D.C., or the headquarters of the United Nations, or whatever particular
countries headquarters, because we can, but it is not if we can, but rather should we.
Please, understand I am not encouraging picking up weapons, as a matter of fact I am discouraging that, not because I do not believe in weapons, I do,
but it is the wrong course of action, because quite simply the laws have changed.
And we have not.
While I respect, believe in, and encourage a wide demographic of people, within the conspiracy theory community, it is however too wide at times, too
differing as far as personal beliefs, perspectives, experience, education, divisive nature.
You name it.
Considering we almost always, at one time or another speak of violence, speak of change, or speak of knowing what is going on behind the scenes, over
all it is a lack of action, and a lack of the correct action at that, which holds us back.
And this is in fact what keeps us in the "loss" column and the elites in the "win" column.
When it comes to our desire to change the world just what are we willing to do to change it?
I am not asking anyone to follow me, as a matter of fact I discourage it, I hate people trying to do what I am doing, I see it something I am rather
loathe to see.
I am however asking you to consider your political ideology, your goals, and your desires.
Are they aligned within the conspiracy theory community in some semblance of agreement.
Do we all believe Government is to blame or is it in fact our own fault?
When we speak of violence it points towards stepping out of the bounds of society.
When we speak of writing our Congressman or elected official we do not all always act.
When we speak of the next False-Flag Operation
we never come to one conclusion.
If we as a society itself, the conspiracy theory community is itself a society, albeit one in which the weirdest, craziest, and sometimes off-the-wall
theories are shared, cannot come to one particular shared perspective, belief, and heading, we will in fact fail, because we fail to act, and by
failing to act not by a lack of action, but by the incorrect action gets us label led as the fringe element.
The fringe element is the loose element on the outside of the edges of society.
If we all believe differently about the conspiracies we study and delve into we lose.
Between the various conspiracy theories not one ultimate conclusion can unite us.
Between all of us Government is either the "bad guy" or the "benevolent entity".
Lincoln verses Booth in the Ford Theatre
The Alamo and the stand against Santa Anna
The Reichstag Fire and the rise of the Nazis
Pearl Harbor and F.D.R.'s role in entering WWII
J.F.K. verses Oswald
Vietnam and the War on Drugs
BP PLC and the Gulf of Mexico
We have heard them all in some variation of course.
But in the end, researching, reading, cross-referencing, and understanding them, how in fact do we honeslty ever "win" against the elites and take
If we do not have more money, more unity, or more correct political moves, we cannot.
What is the "win" ATS and what one political ideology will lead us to it?
Or is it that all of them will eventually make us watered down to lose?
Have I stopped being a conspiracy theorist and given up?
Do I sound like I have thrown in the towel?
Because I have not.
I am however asking exactly what is the point of being a conspiracy theorist and what your political ideology will do to achieve your goals of the
"win" with the elites, because as far as I am concerned, this is not a game, and it is not a win or lose situation, but a situation where we have to
come together or we literally are doing absolutely nothing but spinning our wheels.
All talk and no walk makes a lot of hot air coming out of our mouths.
And that is the job of politicians not conspiracy theorists.
I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican.
I am neither a Conservative nor a Liberal.
I am a free-thinking human being who pick no sides.
Except that of the conspiracy theorists.
And folks by a lack of proper action we only sit still.
The world meanwhile revolves around the Sun yet one more time.
We have to come to some sort of unity or else we will always be divided.
This thread was inspired by the thread below as a welcome to a new member.
Do not treat this as a game
[edit on 24-6-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]