Government infiltrated by spies, CSIS boss says

Government infiltrated by spies, CSIS boss says

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At least two provincial cabinet ministers and a number of other government officials and employees are under the control of foreign countries as part of espionage schemes, Canada’s top security official said Tuesday.

In an exclusive interview on CBC’s The National, CSIS director Richard Fadden said foreign powers are infiltrating Canadian political circles and influencing public servants, fuelling a growing concern about economic espionage in Canada.

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If this turns out to be true it could prove very troubling , to know that undercover " spies " could actually be part of an elected government .

The Canadian people won't take to kindly to this news , nor would the people of any other democracy be to thrilled to learn of such a thing taking part in there respective governments.

If this is proven to be true and names are released I would think that we might see Canada bring forth new laws to deal with this matter in a very swift and harsh way .

Makes one wonder just how many other " spies " have been elected to office in any number of the " free " countries of the world ?



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Why don't they do something about, all the Israelis in the US government, their a lot more visable than those in Canada

[edit on 23-6-2010 by googolplex]

"Spies", eh? Down here in the U.S.A. we call them lobbyists.

Seems to me that some of our beloved politicians need to be made an example of .

Whens the last time anyone can remember an instant where someone was punished for breaking there oath of office ?

The guy better bloomin well name names!
The canadian public has a right to know who the traitors are...
Though there are porbably more US controlled agents than any other ones....Like that phoney piece of crap Mulrooney guy!

reply to post by Max_TO


The current Canadian Prime Minister has taken part in secret proceedings with foreign powers to discuss world policy completely off the record and without accountability to the public (the Bilderberg conferences). All elected officials who attend these meetings should be removed from office and charged with treason unless the bilderberg meetings and all meetings like them become a part of the public record.

Aprently the guy is backpedaling furiously now

Foreign nations not cosy enough with Canadians to name names, says spy chief
at 01:00 on June 24, 2010, EDT.
Jim Bronskill, The Canadian Press
Share|OTTAWA - Canada's top spy briskly backtracked from his suggestion that he's working to oust politicians under the influence of foreign governments.

It was the latest head-scratching twist in a cloak-and-dagger drama that confused spy-watchers, elicited a terse response from the Prime Minister's Office and raised the ire of two western premiers.

Dick Fadden, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said in an interview with CBC-TV Tuesday that he was in the process of warning at least two provinces, through the Privy Council Office, that members of their cabinets are under the influence of foreign governments.

Fadden said CSIS also has suspicions about a number of municipal politicians in British Columbia.

He declined to name the elected officials or countries involved but when asked whether China was one of them Fadden said that recent media reports on China's economic espionage in Canada were not "entirely incorrect."

Fadden rarely speaks publicly and when he does he weighs every syllable before uttering a word. So the Ottawa guessing game centered on speculation about why the spy chief would choose to make his accusations on the eve of a visit by the Chinese president and one day before Prime Minister Stephen Harper would apologize for the botched Air India investigation.

An extensive inquiry report recently blamed CSIS, among others, for errors that set the stage for the terrorist attack that killed 329 people on Air India flight 182 a quarter-century ago. It capped a year in which CSIS was harshly criticized by courts for miscues in cases and the watchdog over the agency took it to task for interrogating a teenaged Omar Khadr.

Liberal public safety critic Mark Holland said the Fadden comments had "profound security implications."

"It's deeply disturbing. The idea that two cabinet ministers could be under the influence of a foreign government is not something you sit on.

"The government seems ready to jump at any other security risk. Why not this one?"

But Fadden backpedalled furiously Wednesday.

He said in a statement he had "not apprised the Privy Council Office of the cases ... mentioned in the interview on CBC."

"At this point, CSIS has not deemed the cases to be of sufficient concern to bring them to the attention of provincial authorities," he added.

Fadden, a career public servant, said foreign interference is common in many countries around the world and CSIS has been investigating such threats for decades.

All this came on the eve of the G20 and G8 summits, as well as a visit by China's President Hu Jintao, raising questions about the timing of his remarks and whether they could poison all of the talks taking place in Canada in the next week.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's spokesman Dimitri Soudas offered Fadden little in the way of solace or protection. Soudsas said the PMO had "no knowledge of these matters."

In British Columbia, Premier Gordon Campbell said Fadden's statements were inappropriate.

"He's provided neither the head of our public service, nor me, nor our solicitor general, nor our attorney general with any evidence of this whatsoever.

"Candidly, I think this really was not just unprecedented, but it is incredibly unprofessional, and I think it calls into question how this organization is working."

Campbell said he was waiting for an explanation from Fadden.

"We have to hear what justification there are for these kinds of doubts and aspersions being cast on people who are trying to serve the public. If there is direct evidence if someone is under the influence of a foreign government that should be dealt with."

Campbell harshly criticized Fadden's warning that some politicians and officials could be linked to governments of their "homelands."

"Canadians deserve a complete, a thorough and a substantial explanation of those comments," said Campbell. "This is a country that welcomes people from all over the world."

An international security expert at the University of Victoria called on Fadden to provide more evidence of his foreign influence allegations to Canadians.

Political science Prof. Scott Watson said without evidence it is difficult to reach any conclusions on the matter.

"It's the nature of (CSIS's) work to not do it in public, but him raising this in public, then I think he brought it on himself that he needs to provide public evidence of his claims."

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty also said the spy agency owes Canadians more information so any concerns can be addressed.

McGuinty said the province hasn't been contacted so, from Ontario's perspective, "no news is good news."

In Edmonton, Solicitor General Frank Oberle said Alberta has no evidence that a provincial politician is in league with foreign powers and has never been informed of such by CSIS.

Oberle, said it's "curious and unfortunate" that Fadden has made the comments on TV in the run-up to Canada hosting world leaders at the summits in Huntsville, Ont., and Toronto.

He says Fadden needs to do more than just backtrack on the remarks.

"He's made some very, very serious allegations. He should either substantiate them or withdraw them and if he's backtracking a bit I'd say that's inadequate. He should withdraw and he should publicly apologize.

"It's outrageous to make such allegations, and the particular forum he chose makes it all the worse."

-- With files from Dean Bennett in Edmonton, Colin Perkel in Toronto and Dirk Meissner in Victoria.


perhaps hes just looking for a headline.....and got his self in a little deep,
The allegations seem a little chickenpoop now

[edit on 24-6-2010 by stirling]

Originally posted by harrytuttle
"Spies", eh? Down here in the U.S.A. we call them lobbyists.

Or president.

well, all countries actually are being SPIED ...


nothing new

Well when the people of a country are lazy , too distracted , the politicians grab the power and run and then become demagogues instead of public servants. This is a trend I've been noticing a while now in the west , our politicians are totally corruptible and up for sale. How many laws do they pass without the majority voting them in and they pander to minorities with deep pockets or dangerous secrets?

Originally posted by stirling
Fadden said CSIS also has suspicions about a number of municipal politicians in British Columbia.

Yeah, probably the ones who are pro-marijuana. In the words of Nixon, "we can't have those kids reading books and smoking their marijuana cigarettes!"

CSIS is a joke because like everything else in the Canadian government, recruitment for it is heavily standardized to only allow servants to the Canadian elite to serve in such important positions. The Canadians who have the skill and talent to be effective intel and counter-intel agents are in gangs because the federal government looks at freedom-loving Canadians as scum and treats them as such. Seriously, gangs are much more organized, armed and better financed than CSIS and instead of integrating them into national defence, even on a militia level, they are hunted down.

www.cbc.ca...

I can't believe this BS!

Something needs to be done NOW!!!!!!!!!!