Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

Originally posted by ChrisCrikey
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

It's a slippery slope to shade your morals according to how much money you think the artists and the industry should be making. It's okay to steal from the rich, is that what you think?

Of course many here think that. One need only tot up the anti-corporatist, anti-free market, "make things FAIR" rants to realize the number here who think that.

Originally posted by State of Mind
I wonder what the founding fathers would have thought about illegal downloading? and a new law that attempts to charge a citizen before a crime is committed? its interesting to ponder.

Yes, that is a very interesting thought XD

They are really trying to turn this country in to the dog squeeze on the bottom of your shoe!
What in the hell???!
They really seem to want to push us into a physical confrontation...

The music industry has to change, just like everyone else.

That's all I will say since I no longer have freedom of speech!

USA= Now owned by corporations such as BP, Blackwater,MPAA, and RIAA.

Hilarious...

The Obama Administration concerned about piracy, after he and his henchmen in Congress not only robbed the American people in order to prop-up failing banks, but are unapologetic about continuing to rob us for a bogus healthcare reform bill that won't take effect for 3 more years.

This administration is the epitome of piracy, but they've gotta go after those teenagers illegally uploading and downloading Lady Gaga!

Such hypocrisy.

— Doc Velocity

How's this for a theory?

There is a derivative market being built around Hollywood. With all the well known piracy issues most people wouldn't be interested in investing. Although I believe the Gov't realizes it can't do much about stopping piracy, they put on a show appearing to clean things up.

This move garners investor interest because they believe money will flow in from what they will believe to be a nearly piracy free environment. The markets make people money for a little while, but underneath the surface is a bubble waiting to happen.

The whole market was built upon stopping piracy and it never really stopped, so when the earnings don't come in as expected the bubble bursts violently. All of the major media moguls will end up getting bailed out and through gov't takeover lead to tighter than ever controls on our media. Sound familiar?

Nostradamus moment......back to reality

[edit on 23-6-2010 by BrianInRI]

reply to post by Doc Velocity


You know, that what I was thinking also. If they can go ahead and train the younger generations, this is the fence, don't go outside of this fence...

But if they targeted gun owners or an older generation with a backbone, they would tell Obama to "get lost"...

Originally posted by jdills1196
USA= Now owned by corporations...

America has been "owned" by corporate entities for over a hundred years, and we haven't had fair elections in this country for a good 80 years — the problem today is that the American corporations that once owned America have sold out to multinational corporations and banks.

The multinationals, the fekking Globalists, are writing our laws now, which is why so much of Obama's socialist agenda seems alien and un-American to us.

— Doc Velocity




[edit on 6/23/2010 by Doc Velocity]

reply to post by jdills1196



Well. Isnt that nice.

So, i guess there isn't anything that might be more important to deal with, right?

I mean, trivial nuisances like:

- the war in Iraq
- the war in Afghanistan
- Israel on the verge of all out war (again)
- 10% unemployment
- dollar is worth, approximately, its weight in used toilet paper
- the EU is crumbling
- our southern border is on metaphorical fire
- Russia is posturing (again)
- The nukes in Iran
- N. Korea
- our nation is on the verge of all out armed revolt


Yeah, i totally see the issue with piracy. I might even agree with it, if they would address real pirates, like the ones in Somalia.

This also opens all kinds of other doors:

Can they come into your house?
Will they do it forcefully?
Will they kick in your door?
Will they illegally search computers?
Will they point guns at you for looking up some crappy music?



I see a really huge market for an alternative to the Internet.

Introducing the "Outternet"!

reply to post by Doc Velocity

Question for ya. Did you disagree with the bailouts during the Bush era too? I'm just trying to get a handle on where you're coming from. Thanks.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


There are more important issues. I'm not saying there isn't, I really don't know why you are trying to discourage discussion in this thread, if you want to talk about a more important issue, go to another thread. There are such a thing as Internet Activist too you know. Look at organizations like EFF.

reply to post by Doc Velocity


So true...

You can whine about "socialism" and taxes all you want but we are a nation of laws and stealing is stealing. Taxes are taxes. Don't like your taxes or the guy in office? Get to work like we did and vote your guys in.

If your dissatisfaction with the current administration is going to be your excuse to steal, lie and cheat I pity you for your lack of integrity. I also hope you get caught.

reply to post by jeh2324


If the past reflects the future then anything will end up being ISP oriented. When streaming video for television shows first started awhile back I found myself at all out war with my ISP because they felt that my bandwidth usage was indicative of piracy.

If this ends up becoming a hot-button issue then I'd imagine that ISPs will ultimately become the source for the Government to get their info.

reply to post by ChrisCrikey


That is a fair argument, but that isn't what I care about, I care about the fact that you can get in trouble with just typing in words. Like if I were to search "torrent of *artist song*" I could be fined or imprisoned.

Originally posted by jdills1196
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

There are more important issues. I'm not saying there isn't, I really don't know why you are trying to discourage discussion in this thread, if you want to talk about a more important issue, go to another thread. There are such a thing as Internet Activist too you know. Look at organizations like EFF.

No one is taking to you. I was making comment on the OP. I don't even have a clue who you are, and cannot say that I have ever read a word you have written.

I am trying to have discussion here. Why are you trying to run me off?

edit to correct: you appear to be the thread author. but my comment is directed to the Idiot in Chief. Not you.

This won't have too much effect on me, as i prefer to purchase music. It gives me a guaranteed quality product, not some 128 song that sounds like an echo chamber.

[edit on 23-6-2010 by bigfatfurrytexan]

The ACTA is a international agreement. Even if ratified here in the States, it's still subject to our laws. And I suspect quite a large portion of it will be struck down my SCOTUS, in the end.

Furthermore, all they will do is force us underground. Encryption. Dark Nets. FTP. If they want a true cyber war, this is one way to achieve it.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


... I'm the OP...

Originally posted by jdills1196
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

... I'm the OP...

This might be overly technical...but OP means "Originating Post". You are the "Thread Author".

But semantics matter little when i didn't recognize you as the author of the OP to begin with, right?

No matter. Just don't be too sensitive. I wasn't talking with you, and now we have wasted half a page of your thread on a needless banter that is not topical.