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Something is happening down there - and it's happening FAST

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posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:01 PM
im a filght mechanic/avionic technician from DK, hardly retired, but jobless.

I would very much like further informaton on this matter:

as soon as possible

as they do not provide nothing MUCH!!

hats off to dourg/binladen(u know who) poster and anybody else that cover things so great here!

please elaborate what you know.


[edit on 23-6-2010 by chapzeroevolve]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:08 PM
Everyone needs to be focused on

I just saw a robot with a robot arm. Under it was a glowying white hot hole in the ocean floor. I tried to print screen and get it, but I didn't get anything. It only showed it for a few seconds and then panned away. But then it panned back for a few seconds. Everyone needs to see this. I could literally see the heat waves coming off of this hole in the ocean floor.

Ok, I think I just saw something explode. There was a robotic arm and it panned over to investigate the hole, and then suddenly I saw a huge cloud of debris come up!!

[edit on 23-6-2010 by jessieg]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:21 PM
reply to post by jessieg

Sounds like what i saw earlier in the day, fortunately I was able to capture it. ROV was in it at least 10 seconds. Like i said in an earlier post, I'm not a supporter of the volcanic theory but this thing whatever it was certainly looked volcanic in nature. I have no clue what it was.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:22 PM

Originally posted by theboyka
Green stuff coming out of gulf oil! WTF is this?

Looks just like the green smoke used by Hollywood in The Wizard of Oz.
Another sign we are being hoodwinked?

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:24 PM
Every time I hit print screen and then take the image into paint brush or an image program, I am getting a black square. It isn't working.

But I saw this robot, and then I saw it's long arm swing out. At the end of the arm I saw a claw that spun around and around. Then it lowered. Then I saw on the ground a hole there, and it was glowing white hot. I could see the water heat disturbance coming up from the hole. The arm was there and looked like it was trying to scoop out a sample. Then suddenly a huge cloud of debris came up!

They don't need to be picking at that thing. What if it is just a scab barely covering a huge magma deposit? It is like they are trying to pick at it and make it erupt faster!

I mean, if it is already glowing white hot, there isn't much they can do to slow it down, but they don't need to pick at around at it!

Oh now it looks like there is an earthquake. I can see the ground vibrating or something!

[edit on 23-6-2010 by jessieg]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:29 PM

ROV is sure interested in the Alfred Hitchcock sea floor cracks.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:31 PM
Ok for a few seconds it actually looked like there was a bit of an earthquake. Now it is more still. I don't think that thing is a crack though. It is wiggling around. Maybe it is a cable or a piece of rope on the ground.

Everyone keep watching. Maybe they will scan back to the left or right and we can get another look at that hole.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:38 PM

Originally posted by mistafaz

ROV is sure interested in the Alfred Hitchcock sea floor cracks.

Considering the piece of machinery next to it, I think its safe to say that it is a cable.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:39 PM
I can't understand why every time I hit print screen, I get a screen capture but it is just a black square. Why can't it capture the image? How do you capture an image? How are people doing that?

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:42 PM
reply to post by Moriarty

Well that's a relief.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:44 PM

Originally posted by jessieg
I can't understand why every time I hit print screen, I get a screen capture but it is just a black square. Why can't it capture the image? How do you capture an image? How are people doing that?

try cntrl-prnt scrn

open paint


should show up there....

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:47 PM

Originally posted by mistafaz
reply to post by Moriarty

Well that's a relief.

Yeah, though I'm still disturbed from when the one ROV I was watching seemed to take a trip through H*ll
There is more than enough to still worry about but one less thing is always good.

posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 12:48 AM
When I was watching earlier, the pipe that supplied the feed of what I assume where the dispersants was moved and when it did it left the oil plume and went straight into the water. My point is that it was luminous blue. It was really really bright on camera and the oil turned back to its regular brown colour. It think this stuf, could be the reason for the strange colouring...

posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:16 AM
Nothing happening.

This is caused by canyoning or unrestricted controlled oil flow and what you see here is just the various sediment being forced up with the increased pressure, imho the well is at 70,000-80,000 bpd and will increase until the relief well kills it. which is possible only if casing remains intact.

posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 02:31 AM
reply to post by atlguy

it could be CoQ10 for all we know

posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 04:19 AM
If that was lava i assure you would have noot seen it go up like that + it would all be melted + the giant steam that would come out.

posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 04:26 AM
About an hour ago I watched the rover pick up something and drop it off to a basket. If anyone is interested in viewing please go to my media and view, if you want to post, please do, I can't figure it but would be interested in peoples opinion as to what it was they picked up, thanx!

[edit on 24-6-2010 by ganbuzz]

[edit on 24-6-2010 by ganbuzz]

posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 05:02 AM
One of the posters was asking what if it erupts.....the following exceprt puts things into context" A 600MPH Tsunami straight to your coastline

The Well from Hell

By Christian A. DeHaemer | Friday, June 18th, 2010

The Dwarves dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum... shadow and flame.

— Saruman, The Lord of the Rings

There is something primordial about BP's quest for oil in the Gulf of Mexico. It's an Icarus-like story of super-ambition; of reaching too far, delving too deep.

I don't know if you've stopped to contemplate what BP was trying to do...

The well itself started 5,000 feet below the surface. That's the depth of the Grand Canyon from the rim.

And then the company attempted to drill more than 30,000 feet below that — Mt. Everest would give 972 feet to spare.

Furthermore, the company sought oil in a dangerous area of the seabed.

It was unstable and many think BP sought it out because seismic data showed huge pools of methane gas — the very gas that blew the top off Deepwater Horizon and killed 11 people.

More than a year ago, geologists criticized Transocean for putting their exploratory rig directly over a massive underground reservoir of methane.

According to the New York Times, BP's internal "documents show that in March, after several weeks of problems on the rig, BP was struggling with a loss of 'well control.' And as far back as 11 months ago, it was concerned about the well casing and the blowout preventer.”

The problem is that this methane, located deep in the bowels of the earth, is under tremendous pressure...

Some speculate as much as 100,000 psi — far too much for current technology to contain. The shutoff vales and safety measures were built for only 1,000 psi.

It was an accident waiting to happen... And there are many that say it could get worse — much worse.

Geologists are pointing to other fissures and cracks that are appearing on the ocean floor around the damaged wellhead.

According to CNN:

The University of South Florida recently discovered a second oil plume in the northeastern Gulf. The first plume was found by Mississippi universities in early May.

And there have been other plumes discovered by submersibles...

Some geologists say that BP's arrogance has set off a series of events that may be irreversible. There are some that think that BP has drilled into an deep-core oil volcano that cannot be stopped, regardless of the horizontal drills the company claims will stop the oil plume in August.

Need the mudlogs

Geologist, Chris Landau, for instance, has called for a showing of the mudlogs. A mudlog is a schematic cross sectional drawing of the lithology (rock type) of the well that has been bored.

So far, no one has seen them... BP keeps them hidden.

Mr. Landau claims:

It is a dangerous game drilling into high pressure oil and gas zones because you risk having a blowout if your mud weight is not heavy enough. If you weight up your mud with barium sulfate to a very high level, you risk BLOWING OUT THE FORMATION.

What does that mean? It means you crack the rock deep underground; as the mudweight is now denser than the rock, it escapes into the rock in the pore spaces and the fractures. The well empties of mud. If you have not hit high pressure oil or gas at this stage, you are lucky.

But if you have, the oil and gas come flying up the well and you have a blowout, because you have no mud in the well to suppress the oil and gas. You shut down the well with the blowout preventer. If you do not have a blowout preventer, you are in trouble as we have all seen and you can only hope that the oil and gas pressure will naturally fall off with time, otherwise you have to try and put a new blowout preventer in place with oil and gas coming out as you work.

continues below.....

posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 05:04 AM

Obviously, the oil and gas pressure hasn't fallen off
In fact... it's increased.
The problem is that BP may not only have hit the mother of high-pressure wells, but there is also a vast amount of methane down there that could come exploding out like an underwater volcano.

I recently heard a recording of Richard Hoagland who was interviewed on Coast to Coast AM.

Mr. Hoagland has suggested that there are cracks in the ocean floor, and that pressure at the base of the wellhead is approximately 100,000 psi.

Furthermore, geologists believe there are another 4-5 cracks or fissions in the well. Upon using a GPS and Depth finder system, experts have discovered a large gas bubble, 15-20 miles across and tens of feet high, under the ocean floor.

These bubbles are common. Many believe they have caused the sinking of ships and planes in the Bermuda Triangle.

That said, a bubble this large — if able to escape from under the ocean floor through a crack — would cause a gas explosion that Mr. Hoagland likens to Mt. St. Helens... only under water.

The BP well is 50 miles from Louisiana. Its release would send a toxic cloud over populated areas. The explosion would also sink any ships and oil structures in the vicinity and create a tsunami which would head toward Florida at 600 mph.

Now, many people have called Hoagland a fringe thinker and a conspiracy theorist. And they may be right... But that doesn't mean he isn't on to something.

EPA finds high concentrations of gases in the area

The escape of other poison gases associated with an underground methane bubble (such as hydrogen sulfide, benzene, and methylene chloride) have been found.

Last Thursday, the EPA measured hydrogen sulfide at 1,000 parts per billion — well above the normal 5 to 10 ppb. Some benzene levels were measured near the Gulf of Mexico in the range of 3,000 – 4,000 ppb — up from the normal 0-4 ppb.

More speculation of doom

The Oil Drum, an industry sheet, recently ran an article about the sequence of events that tried to stop the oil spill.

The upshot of industry insiders was that after trying a number of ways to close off the leak, the well was compromised, creating other leaks due to the high pressure. BP then cut the well open and tried to capture the oil.

In other words: BP shifted from stopping the gusher to opening it up and catching what oil it could.

The only reason sane oil men would do this is if they wanted to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed... And that sort of leak — known as a “down hole” leak — is one of the most dangerous kind.

No stopping it

It means that BP can't stop if from above; it can only relieve the pressure.

So, more oil is leaking out while BP hopes it can drill new wells before the current one completely erodes.

BP is in a race against time... It just won't admit this fact.

According to the Oil Drum:

There are abrasives still present, a swirling flow will create hot spots of wear and this erosion is relentless and will always be present until eventually it wears away enough material to break it's way out. It will slowly eat the bop away especially at the now pinched off riser head and it will flow more and more. Perhaps BP can outrun or keep up with that out flow with various suckage methods for a period of time, but eventually the well will win that race, just how long that race will be?

... No one really knows...

Which leads us back to Mr. Landau's point about the mudlogs and why BP won't release them.

I don't know... Maybe I'm wearing my tinfoil hat too tight this morning... But this stuff seems possible — if it's only a worst case scenario.

What strikes me as odd is the way the leadership of BP and the Obama administration is acting.


posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 05:04 AM
BP is running around apologizing to everyone they can find. Obama says give us $20 billion in escrow and $100 million for the people Obama put out of work on the oil rigs due to his six month ban — and BP says, "Sure thing mate, no problem."

And all of this in a 20-minute meeting?

I've been dealing with oil companies for a long time and it just doesn't add up...
Contrast it, for instance, with the Exxon situation in Alaska or the Union Carbide disaster in India.

Exxon fought tooth and nail for its shareholders; it appealed court rulings for 19 years. Union Carbide wasn't settled for 25 years.

BP is rolling over like a simpering dog. Why?

The only reason I can think of is that the company knows — better if not as well as the Obama administration does — that it will get worse.

Much worse.

Christian DeHaemer
Editor, Energy and Capital

BP Supervisor Was Fired For Expressing Safety Concerns

Lucia Graves | HuffPost Reporting
First Posted: 06-17-10

Ken Abbott, a former project control supervisor on BP's Atlantis deepwater oil rig, was fired in 2009 after expressing concerns about the safety of the operation.

"I got a lot of pressure from the lead engineers and from the managers saying, 'Don't do that; don't push so much; we don't want to mess with that,'" Abbott told HuffPost in an interview Wednesday. "I feel like the real reason I was fired was because I was trying to raise a safety issue, and you know BP has a long history of getting rid of people who try to raise safety issues. I was one of those victims."

"Management sets the tone," Abbott added. "If they think that production is more important than safety, then that's the tone of the company, and that was the tone at Atlantis."

In his testimony on the Hill on Thursday, BP CEO Tony Hayward repeatedly said that he didn't make any design choices. "I wasn't involved in any of the decision-making," he told Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), adding that there were clearly discussions about rig safety among the well's engineering team.

"You're not taking responsibility," Waxman said. "You're kicking the can down the road and acting like you have nothing to do with... this company. I find that irresponsible."

Congressional investigators recently obtained internal BP documents showing that BP chose a well design for Deepwater Horizon that was riskier but $3 million cheaper.

The story sounds familiar to Abbott who had his safety recommendations for Atlantis vetoed by BP management for fiscal reasons -- the estimated cost was $2 million.

In September of 2008, Abbott was warned by his predecessor, Barry Duff, that "hundreds if not thousands" of Atlantis's documents had not been approved or finalized, and that it could "lead to catastrophic Operator errors."

Duff had reported these concerns to management, but nothing had happened. "They didn't want to spend the money to fix it," Abbott said. "I think [Duff] was unhappy."

For months, Abbott worked to obtain BP engineer-approved drawings with little, if any, progress. "The more I insisted that we had to develop or obtain them, the more unpopular I became," he said. Hostilities mounted until he was fired on February 5, 2009.

"I was told that it was a reduction in force due to a slowdown on the Atlantis project, but I was the only person laid off," Abbott said. "Three weeks before, the BP managers of Atlantis had told the whole rig nobody was going to be laid off, that there was plenty of work to do."

Hayward said under oath Thursday that he feels "a great deal of responsibility" for the Deepwater Horizon explosion this April that triggered the Gulf Coast catastrophe. "The fire and explosion on the Deepwater Horizon never should have happened and I'm deeply sorry that it did," Hayward said.

[edit on 24-6-2010 by ImperialMaj]

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