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RMS Titanic

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posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 02:23 PM
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Here is the first conspiricy on these boards that does not have any aliens, secret/dark groups or warmongering!

Everybody knows the RMS Titanic, and some will know that a lot of people believe that it was her older sister the Olympic that went down because of the accident that she suffered with HMS Hawke.

So here is the chance for a good old fashioned British style conspiricy for everyone to discuss the theory that the Titanic was not the Titanic at all and that Olympic was supposed to be sunk in an insurance swindle. Surly this is worthy of ATS

Discuss




posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 02:32 PM
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The Titanic had bankers aboard that would not go along with the zionist plan when it sunk and this allowed the zionists to continue with the master plan, seize the FED and now the world is paying the price.

bretty.ning.com...



In accordance to theorists, the actual design pertaining to the Fed Reserve had been set in motion, although suffered certain opposition towards its development. Three of the wealthiest families in the earth opposed the Federal Reserve in the Country for the reason that these people knew the consequences of a exclusive organization dictating the fiscal developments within the country. These individuals had been Jacob Astor, Benjamin Guggenheim, and Isa Straus; all of which ended up being aboard the White Line's Cruiser when it wrecked.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 02:38 PM
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thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!

My eyes were bleeding due to all the foolishness on the boards, finally something that will give me a good read!

I'd kiss you guys, but I am in reptilian form and I don't give tongue.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by adigregorio
thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!

My eyes were bleeding due to all the foolishness on the boards, finally something that will give me a good read!

I'd kiss you guys, but I am in reptilian form and I don't give tongue.
I dont mind you being in reptilian form - all in the name of intergalactic harmony...

So what do you think happened?



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 02:57 PM
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What do I think happened?

Well, right now, I think that the Captain (and others) wanted to set a "speed record" and discounted safety in the process.

That, plus the lack of life boats, and lack of care, oh and the mean ol' iceberg, came together for a cocktail of disaster.

It never crossed my mind that there might be "more than" to this story, so now I delve deep into the depth of the Arctic web to scour the basin for tidbits of information. I will stay in the thread, and post as my position changes. This topic is going to be fun


EDIT (To Add)

I found video! This changed my whole perception! Oh, man, we HAVE been lied to about this!!!

PROOF, graphic content be advised!

[edit on 6/23/2010 by adigregorio]



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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We know that Smith was going to retire, and that he was offered command of Titanic for the one return trip so he could retire on a high note. Smith had recieved warnings for the icebergs ahead, but Ismay ordered him to increase speed.

So the story goes...

It is odd to note that the Titanic broke in two at the same place IIRC in the same place that Olympic was hit and damaged by Hawke. Anybody else have their two pennywoth to share...?



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by BSG75
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It is odd to note that the Titanic broke in two at the same place IIRC in the same place that Olympic was hit and damaged by Hawke. Anybody else have their two pennywoth to share...?


Now this could work 3 ways (That I can see, right now.)

1) Same story we were told in the books
2) Your hypo' on it being the Olympic itself.
3) Someone learned the best part to "attack" on that class of ship, and it was Titanic that sunk (Yet for more sinister reasons than #1)

Just brain-storming


[edit on 6/23/2010 by adigregorio]



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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Here is a link to a website which explains the conspiracy theory in detail. I personally agree with this and it was an insurance scam of major proportion!

Titanic Conspiracy



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by adigregorio

Originally posted by BSG75
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It is odd to note that the Titanic broke in two at the same place IIRC in the same place that Olympic was hit and damaged by Hawke. Anybody else have their two pennywoth to share...?


Now this could work 3 ways (That I can see, right now.)

1) Same story we were told in the books
2) Your hypo' on it being the Olympic itself.
3) Someone learned the best part to "attack" on that class of ship, and it was Titanic that sunk (Yet for more sinister reasons than #1)

Just brain-storming


[edit on 6/23/2010 by adigregorio]


Olympic would have failed her BoT exam which I think was due for the summer of 1912. While Titanic was being finished for launch, Olympic came into Harland and Wolff for "repairs and remidal work". It would have been a simple thng for the ships (which looked identical from the outside) to have had all identifying marks swapped over.. Olympic had cost too much in repair work snce her launch anyway. The Hawke incident was a financial disaster for Olympic's operator, and keeping her out of revenue service made matters worse.

There is also one odd thing about "Titanic" on the voyage. During the night of either April 13th or April 14th, a course change was ordered - but no course change was ever ordered or even planned. Could Ismay (being in on the scheme) have ordered it?

Ideas ladies and gentlemen (and all other peoples from outer space)



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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We do have the odd other thread on the titanic about on the boards

www.abovetopsecret.com...

For instance so it might be an idea to check some of them out for good info and to save duplication on research?



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Silk
We do have the odd other thread on the titanic about on the boards

www.abovetopsecret.com...

For instance so it might be an idea to check some of them out for good info and to save duplication on research?


I did look before posting, but I couldn't find anything other then mentions of the ship's name in posts.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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Read through 3 sites now, something is pretty fishy for sure!

Some of the evidence:

Wrong color of paint used on the ship.
Steering area was not proper for the Titanic, but was for Olympic.
Propeller has missing part, same that was lost when Olympic had accident.
Life Boats were reported to have "Olympic" stamped on them, vs Titanic.

My favorite, and trying to verify (Others have pictures, links below)
In the movie "Titanic" during the underwater filming scenes, apparently one of the pictures hanging on the wall was that of a room on the Olympic. I really, and mean really, don't want to watch that movie. But I might do some hunting on the tube, unless someone else has a picture


OP Link
Another Link
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posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:54 PM
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Wrong color of paint used on the ship.


Olympic was painted white before/during her proving trials to make it easier to photograph. Instead of it being removed as per normal course, Olympic was simply painted over. When the wreck of whatever actually went down, white paint is found on various parts of thehull. Titanic was never painted white at all... Now that is a big no no for me.

Regards to the picture, I think the picture in the 1997 film is best seen when Andrews alters the clock in the first class smoking room. The picture should have been the entrance to Portsmouth Harbour, but the painting used in the film has the shadowy outline of an Olympic-Class vessel



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 05:07 PM
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Putting the Titanic Olympic issue aside for a moment why did she sink, well any schoolboy can tell you she hit an iceberg but the ship should have stayed afloat with four compartments flooded but a fifth became flooded aswell so why was this.

The answer could have been the difference between "best" and "best best".

These are the descriptors for the quality of rivets holding the hull, made of metal plates, together.

Most of the rivets, 3 million of them were made from steel, "best best" but the ones at the bow were wrought iron, "best" but scientists have found from recovering 48 rivets from the Titanic that they did not have the strength that they should have done consequently causing the hull to be damaged beyond it's predicted design parameters and flooding the fifth compartment, the rest as they say is history.


One of many sources



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 05:10 PM
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Well unless we meet a certain man with a time travelling blue box, we'll never know for certain will we?



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by BSG75
Well unless we meet a certain man with a time travelling blue box, we'll never know for certain will we?


That's not entirely true. Research could provide us with the answers, harder than time travel wishes though


Hope to see this thread blossom some more, way better read than some of the other "general conspiracies" floating around here.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Oh we could simply run this thread ourselves... bump it a bit so that people see it



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