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Why are American Republicans so moronic?

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posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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reply to post by howmuch4another
 


The two party system and you're welcome.




posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by ActuallyActuary
 


So I'm not a respectable person. That's really conservative of you to say to me. Really shows your generously.


Respect is earned, not given at birth. Try to earn it by educating yourself before publishing your childish opuses.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:23 PM
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Of course respect is earned. But many Americans are forgetting historic facts and they seem to not care about their faults.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Okay got it. Change the argument after baiting the wall. TROLL much?



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:30 PM
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reply to post by howmuch4another
 


Not much at all. You seem to be upset and I will not give in to your annoying whimpering.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by ActuallyActuary
 


... But many Americans are forgetting historic facts and they seem to not care about their faults.


Precisely my point. Congratulations on a step in the right direction. Study your history, there is nothing new. You may be lost in definitions, but they all are useless labels.
The historic fact to remember is there are always just two competing forces: Collectivism and Individualism. Collectivism invariably leads to tyrany. Individualism provides checks and balances.
You can call your commie friends anything you like, the bottom line is: they want to make decisions for me and instead of me. Exactly as it happened in Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia.
I won't let 'em. They are not qualified.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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You're correct! I do know a lot about history. Maybe I was just upset to name call on Republicans. I'm interested in learning about objectism. Ayn Rand is a genius and a demon in the sack.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by vor78

Originally posted by mnemeth1
"Hitler wasn't a socialist"

LOL

good one.


Its amazing, isn't it?


In 1927, Hitler said: "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."


In a 1929 interview, he stepped away from the socialist label, but only the label. In 1930:


I want everyone to keep what he has earned, subject to the principle that the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State ... The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners


Wow, what a right winger that guy was!

Source; just look under the 'anti-capitalist rhetoric' section


Its Amazing-

... that yer Hitler quotes get the happy stars, while I get capped upon for doing the same thing... I guess I shall crawl along here regardless.


Hitler was such a pussy liberal


"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."



So communal


"For there is one thing we must never forget… the majority can never replace the man."




1933



Communism with its method of madness is making a powerful and insidious attack upon our dismayed and shattered nation. It seeks to poison and disrupt in order to hurl us into an epoch of chaos.... This negative, destroying spirit spared nothing of all that is highest and most valuable. Beginning with the family, it has undermined the very foundations of morality and faith and scoffs at culture and business, nation and Fatherland, justice and honor. Fourteen years of Marxism have ruined Germany; one year of bolshevism would destroy her.


I guess this can go on all day

Edit to add:

Upon brushing up on my Hitler - he was pro Union before he took power, rhetorically...

But once in office he abandoned this idea and banned unionization, the collective bargain and the right to strike. So I have to retract this, as my previous statements are not correct.

[edit on 24-6-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 02:00 PM
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[edit on 24/6/10 by blupblup]



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Janky Red
 




My point is, in recent times, liberals usually populate the anti war rallies, that does not mean our politicians listen. It is a very strong belief in me, the Lib in your tarian has the same sentiment; per my observation...


Actually this is very interesting..

Prior to the elections there was a LOT of anti-war sentiment.. I know in the city I live there were weekly rallies, albeit not that big, maybe 50-100 people, maybe 150 on a good day. And you heard about it endlessly.. end the war, bring home the troops, end it now, we are sick of the war, etc, etc, etc...

And yet, now that a Liberal has been elected, the Anti-War sentiment is almost completely gone, except for the extreme right and the extreme left (yes, we on the right wing fringe are just as mad about the war as progressives claim to be).

I ask my self... why.. where .. how .. did all the anti-war rhetoric just.. vanish? And not only that, but still in the news it's terrrrist this, terrrrrist that.. and more bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran.

IMO... Liberals are not against war in the sense that they are against any form of military action even if they don't have to see it everyday and doesn't disrupt their life. They are against war in the sense that if the "opponent" is fighting the war, then it's a bad war. Once they start one, or take over one, it ok to drag it out and keep it going, hell, why not expand it. No one gives a damn. Those rallies I mentioned at the beginning of the post, average 10 people on a good day meeting downtown. It's all about politics.. few people have the conviction to stand for what they believe in when their admired leaders differ their point of view, and even fewer have the capability to create their own beliefs, but parrot what the dear leader tells them to.


this is a fair statement... many have abandoned the cause, not all as we just had a sizable one earlier this year in my city, however it is true, once the political weaponry
of it was pointless, many went home. Obama has reneged on his supposed principle
and has angered many Libs in my proxy, especially concerning the war. While many
have simply moved on to protect other political flanks -

I truly understand your befuddlement; It reminds me very much of my own form of the same sort of observation.

PResident Bush was elected to office twice- Spent money like no tomorrow, increased
the "authority" and construct of government considerably, yet where were the protests
from the right??? Instead, the base votes for him TWICE...

However, once Obama gets elected these concepts become pressing to such an immediate extreme that conflict might be the only answer for some.

A casual observer would ask... "why did you support or stay quite during a decade of what you are now fighting against???"

Might ask the war protesters that one, its the same political construct just reversed.

The war and the deficit are both great rallying cries for both the parties.

to go further, Bush and Obama are not very different, yet they both inspire the same visceral hatred and produce similar results.

Frankly this why it is very hard for me to take this current outrage seriously; just as you are skeptical of the anti war motive. Given the history and behavior of both parties (left/right); I think we both have valid grounds for skepticism. However this does not negate those who are consistent, even if their efforts are quelled and discredited by the wavering masses of the left/right, right/left.

The liberal/conservative construct always gets enacted in a way that diverges from the
philosophy...

Left/Right is a big pile of crap when it is brought into the physical world, but I believe
it is a real occurrence none the less...

Some believe the way to Valhalla is thru the favor of the rich

Some believe the way to Valhalla is thru the favor of the poor

Some believe anarchy is adhering to a construct adamantly as a base for anarchy.

Others believe anarchy means no construct at all, discard any base, paper or doctrine
at will.

Most of use break all these molds in some places... But we feel the need to gravitate
to what best resembles our over all desire and outlook.

This is why I believe in moderation, as nobody seems to carry the exact same set of
specific goals, anything less would be tyrannical to the extreme majority who might
only share certain aspects with the tyrannical extreme, be it left or right.

This thread is a great example- we root for our teams, even though we have never met the players, even if the players could care less about us, we chant and defend to the
bitter end.

[edit on 24-6-2010 by Janky Red]

[edit on 24-6-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by endisnighe
The Leftists have all the TYRANTS.

Sorry to break your delusion, but ignorance is just so..............ignorant.

Socialism is the path to tyrannical government. Both the repubs and the dems use it.

Here is a breakdown for even the infantile to understand. When you speak of left/right, are you speaking of what?



I needed a good laugh today! Thanks for making me see the child like sense of wonder that comes from the right!


.....If you don't agree with this I'd direct you to an elementary course of Political Science at your nearest university.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck

Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by endisnighe
The Leftists have all the TYRANTS.

Sorry to break your delusion, but ignorance is just so..............ignorant.

Socialism is the path to tyrannical government. Both the repubs and the dems use it.

Here is a breakdown for even the infantile to understand. When you speak of left/right, are you speaking of what?



I needed a good laugh today! Thanks for making me see the child like sense of wonder that comes from the right!


.....If you don't agree with this I'd direct you to an elementary course of Political Science at your nearest university.


I don't agree with that at all...

The left and right both trail of into anarchy.

The right want a basis for anarchy, business, ownership and property

Lefty anarchist believe that ANY preformed constructs negate the very meaning of true anarchy, which is NO construct.



[edit on 24-6-2010 by Janky Red]



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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PResident Bush was elected to office twice- Spent money like no tomorrow, increased the "authority" and construct of government considerably, yet where were the protests from the right??? Instead, the base votes for him TWICE...


Ah easily answered!

The VAST majority of Republicans (who represent about 25% of American voters, Democrats represent approx another 25%) are complete and total FASCIST. They love Socialism, mixed in with Corporatism (they call it free-markets but it's not) and they love their Jesus.. mix it all together, it's a Fascist utopia. When Bush was consolidating power and extending the arm of Government only the fringe right spoke out, just as the fringe left dare speak out against Obama. Eventually however enough terrrrrist shock wore off for some to see the errors of their way, and voted Blue and got a Socialist.

The Republican party IS a Socialist party.. you won't hear Republicans complaining about medicare and healthcare (unless dems are pushing it) and many want free healthcare.. they just don't want dems doing it.. they've been conditioned very well.




However, once Obama gets elected these concepts become pressing to such an immediate extreme that conflict might be the only answer for some.


For the exact same reasons Dems were against the war, then suddenly for the war. Actually, I should say, for the war, against the war, now for it again.. since technically they started it via Congress. Anyways, once a Repub gets elected most of the "tea-party" people will go home, and it will be left with the people who started the movement under the Bush Administration.

Before it was hi-jacked by the Republican Party and mrs. Palin.




Left/Right is a big pile of crap when it is brought into the physical world, but I believe it is a real occurrence none the less...


Only because they are both Socialist ideas using different methods to come about the same ends..

I personally have no team.. I consider myself Libertarian as a tittle to express that I don't like Government, and with a tiny Government teams are irrelevant if you can restrict what it does to a few core responsibilities and nothing more.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red
Hitler was such a pussy liberal


"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."



I guess if you want to believe that all liberals are pu$$ies, I'm not going to stop you. That said, knowing the history of the radical leftists of the 60s and 70s here in our own country, one thing I've learned is that liberals have their own penchant for violence.

As for the rest, Hitler wasn't a communist. We already knew that, but I'll give you an A for effort. I guess you could say the Nazis were to the right of the Soviets, which would be true, but its kind of like saying that a cape buffalo is a small animal when your frame of reference is an African elephant.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by vor78

Originally posted by Janky Red
Hitler was such a pussy liberal


"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."



I guess if you want to believe that all liberals are pu$$ies, I'm not going to stop you. That said, knowing the history of the radical leftists of the 60s and 70s here in our own country, one thing I've learned is that liberals have their own penchant for violence.

As for the rest, Hitler wasn't a communist. We already knew that, but I'll give you an A for effort. I guess you could say the Nazis were to the right of the Soviets, which would be true, but its kind of like saying that a cape buffalo is a small animal when your frame of reference is an African elephant.


Certainly Lefties are violent, I think we all miss the point that we are born with that
tendency. The lefties who were protesting violence with violence certainly were confused. Then you have the young folks from the same cultural persuasion
marching against dogs getting clubbed in by constructs of the government who demonstrated extreme passivity. The TEA party has demonstrated similar passivity.

What I feel many of you are missing is the pivot point, which is the construct one
advocates.

Do you advocate the construct of government

Or the construct which is the basis of the unspoken law

Lefties use the government to attack tradition, which is a construct of man

Righties use the construct of tradition to attack the government as it is a threat
to the traditional rules set forth by our cultural ancestors.

Hitler demonstrated a passion for the environment thru state enforcement and he also wanted to get the foreigners out who were destroying the economy, thru state enforcement...

Do you advocate that the Feds protect the environment?

Do you advocate that the Feds protect the border and quell the surge of immigration?

Who's the Nazi???



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by ActuallyActuary

Respect is earned, not given at birth. Try to earn it by educating yourself before publishing your childish opuses.


You do realize your avatar is of a child from the simpsons picking his nose....don't you?

Childish?...Just sayin.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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I was wondering why American democRATS are so moronic ?



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by ActuallyActuary

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
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... But many Americans are forgetting historic facts and they seem to not care about their faults.


Precisely my point. Congratulations on a step in the right direction. Study your history, there is nothing new. You may be lost in definitions, but they all are useless labels.
The historic fact to remember is there are always just two competing forces: Collectivism and Individualism. Collectivism invariably leads to tyrany. Individualism provides checks and balances.


Individualism by it's very defintion prioritizes an individuals interests and desires over the collective welfare of a society. It doesn't create checks and balances as much as it provides a platform of internal justification for folks who choose to take bribes, commit crimes, cheat on thier wife and generally disregard their fellow human beings....

...actually you might be onto something when you associate it with the Republican Party....

Couldn't resist.



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by theuhstuf
most older christians are republican. that should explain why they are hypocritical idiots who type in all caps.


That's funny..
And liberals are small minded...
Which explains why they write in all small letters and use no capital letters...



posted on Jun, 24 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Dorian Soran

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel



Hitler was no Socialist.


You would be correct in saying that hitler wasn't JUST a socialist. Hes was crazy too. And power hungry. and had little guy syndrome. So he was a crazy, little, angry, power hungry SOCIALIST!


........and a front man for Rockefeller, Prescott Bush and Brown Brothers Harriman.


Note to Kosmos & Jean Paul: Great posts my friends. Not a lot of time left to turn heads.



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