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Papua, The Day The Sea Caught Fire. Possible Scenario of the Deepwater Horizon Leak.

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posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:05 AM
I have seen some people claim that "the worse case scenario" cannot happen, and believe that anyone who advices to be prepared for the worst case scenario = to scaremongering, when it is not.

We know that deep within the Earth there are very large deposits of methane, and other VOCs, as well as CO2 which have caused disaster in the past, and could cause a disaster now with what is happening in the seabed of the Gulf of Mexico.

Here is one such worse case scenarios which occurred in Papua in July 17th 1998.

Last week an OZ TV news item showed an Australian Geology Professor from PNG University interviewing survivors of the Tsunami. The survivor reported that as the sea wave swept in it was on fire--as was the air above it.

This ABC article suggests natural organism bio-luminescence was the cause of these flames. I can confirm that any sea voyage around PNG at night is spectacular due to the luminescence of the organisms in the prop wake - but I do have trouble buying that this gave the wave an "appearance" of being on fire. The PNG survivor shown on TV appeared very lucid and was puzzled by his genuine observation of flames in the sea as the tidal wave swept in.

Many bodies were apparently burnt. This is now explained as friction caused by rolling around with sand and debris-- maybe so.

Now local OZ scientists are suggesting natural gas was released from the PNG quake sub-sea fault line - sheets of flames and resultant fires have been reported at times from big seismic events on land around the world (eg late 1800s and early 1900s California) - these were once believed by scientists remote from the event locations to be caused by house gas pipeline ruptures however research proved the craziness of this idea as no such pipelines were in existence in most (99.9%) of such cases - the gas that ignited was possibly hydrogen and methane released along the fault from deep Mantle ultrabasic rocks undergoing phase changes or reaction with water, or release of natural gas from sedimentary sequence reservoirs located along the fault plane, or just possibly these fires involve massive piezo-electric (due to stress in breaking rock crystals) scalar EM energy release along and above the fault plane creating a Tesla style electric flame? A similar scalar EM energy release has been proposed by Bearden and others (see his book Excalibur) for the origin of fault plane quake related "Earth Stress Lights."

Any of the above might apply in the PNG Tsunami case. However as the eye-witness reports are rather anomalous in that flames are not normally associated with Tsunamis. Neither (as far as I am aware) are many burnt bodies normally found after such events. This entire PNG tsunami scenario requires further close detailed analysis. I have tried to get into e-mail comm with the geology professor from PNGU--so far with no success.

Although we disagree on the role of the USGS drilling crew on site some 1000km SE of the tsunami quake site it is just possible they were sent there to gather field data on a quake-tsunami weapon deployment--without knowing what was about to unfold - rather than their drilling holes into a fault plane there leading to the quake initiation on the other side of PNG?

I noticed that the great highly devastating Kobe quake was initiated whilst a top USGS quake team were in Tokyo attending a big seismic symposium. They got into Kobe and carried out a very detailed study of that event which the USGS placed on their web site in prime position; very convenient if you want to see just how your weapon worked in a real deployment.

Having said the above the most likely scenario for this PNG Tsunami is still Natural Cause - but you do have to wonder what really went on that night?Harry Mason

Tsunami Reveals a Surprise
Tsunamis typically get triggered by earthquakes. The massive underground movements create fast-moving waves that rise up when they reach shore. (

Special to
It rolled ashore thundering like a jet aircraft taking off, and people watched in horror as the wall of water erased their homes and swept thousands to their deaths. Some thought they were being punished for their sins as the tsunami swept across Papua New Guinea on July 17, leaving only shattered boards where a village once flourished. Others thought a giant explosion caused the wave, which towered more than 40 feet.

Some survivors reported seeing sparks fly from the water and thought the ocean was on fire.

Costas Synolakis, professor of civil engineering at the University of Southern California, led a team of U.S. scientists to Papua New Guinea to see what they could learn from a tsunami that, according to the textbooks, never should have happened.

"It was an eye-opener," Synolakis says.

Synolakis had led other post-tsunami expeditions in the past, but this one was different because the villagers spoke English so the team didn't have to rely on the filtered testimony of government officials.

"Now we could understand the horror directly," he says. But when it was all over, Synolakis was left with questions of his own.

A Surprise
The earthquake that preceded the tsunami had a magnitude of 7, which scientists didnt think was powerful enough to trigger such a devastating wave. Underestimating the threat of tsunamis from even moderate earthquakes could mean much of the west coast of North America is more vulnerable than had been thought.

His team, sponsored by the National Science Foundation, went on a purely scientific expedition, but the mission soon included educating the locals. One top government official pleaded with the scientists to help his people understand they were not being punished "for the impiety of some people," as he put it. So they took time off from the difficult task of reconstructing the tsunami and tried to explain to the locals they weren't to blame. Particularly troubling was the question from a 15-year-old schoolgirl who asked about a "mountain of water with fire sparkles." Many of the victims had what appeared to be severe burns, suggesting that the water was on fire.


Here is another link giving account to some of the events of that day.

The Next Wave
A tsunami devastated Papua New Guinea in 1998. The disaster awakened fears that killer waves could devastate other areas of the Pacific.

Anne Rosenthal

It was an idyllic setting: a palm-fringed finger of sand on the northern coast of Papua New Guinea. To one side lay the tropical waters of the Bismarck Sea; to the other, the fish-laden shallows of Sissano Lagoon. Beyond the lagoon stood a verdant, steamy tropical forest. About 15,000 people lived here in the small villages of Sissano, Warapu, Arop, and Malol, many in simple dwellings on the spit itself.

The evening of Friday, July 17, 1998, marked the beginning of a four-day holiday. Children were playing touch rugby and preparing for the evening festivities. Villagers were relaxing, strolling along the beach, or visiting friends and relatives.

Shortly before sunset, the earth began to shake, and a thunderous boom shattered the air. Large cracks suddenly gaped open on the beach, and the village children, filled with curiosity, ran to look, encouraging the grown-ups to come and see, too. As a crowd gathered, the ocean began to recede from the shore, and, as the water drew farther out, a distant murmur grew to a rumbling.

Within a few minutes the rumbling had grown to a deafening roar, like the sound of an approaching jet squadron. The sea had returned as a wall of water, glowing red near the crest. As the watchers turned to flee, the wave broke offshore, surging through the villages and knocking people off their feet. But this was prologue. On the heels of the first, a second monstrous wave swept in. This one crashed directly over Warapu and Arop, engulfing the villagers as they raced inland, and drove landward for hundreds of meters. The dead and brutally injured were dumped into the lagoon and surrounding mangroves. When the wave retreated, it pulled many of the victims out to sea.

As darkness fell, yet another huge wave struck the spit. When the tsunami was over, half of Sissano and Malol were obliterated, and where the houses of Arop and Warapu had stood, nothing remained but cement slabs. The dark swirling waters, churning debris, and treacherous currents had claimed over 2,000 lives.

In the ensuing hours and days, the stunned villagers tried to make sense of what had happened. As the waves crashed down, they had been lit, as if on fire; and the bodies of many victims seemed burned. The earth was still shaking intermittently. Would more waves come? Were the people being punished?

[edit on 23-6-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:24 AM
Something similar to what happened in Papua could occur in the gulf, but in a much larger scale. Let's hope it doesn't happen, but I believe that people should know of what could very well occur because of the Deepwater Horizon leak.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 12:09 PM
And here i thought this would get at least one or two responses, but I guess i was wrong.

If anything similar to the Papua 1998 incident happens the people in the area of the gulf leak should be prepared.

I have bought some gas masks for my family and sent them to them just in case as they live in the Miami area in Florida.

I also gave some advice to my parents, and other relatives in case H2S gets to their area.

Anyway, let's hope the worse has happened but lets be prepared just in case it hasn't.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 12:18 PM
Great research and post. This material is just stunning to me as I had only half joked in the past about the possibility of flaming hurricanes from the Gulf spill. Maybe you're getting few responses because what you present is just amazing and so frightening in its implications.

Good work.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 12:21 PM
I've wondered if a fire could start on the surface of the Gulf from a lightening strike. With the amount of oil out there, it would seemingly be a monstrous fire.

Flaming hurricane?

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 12:31 PM
Good find!
i'm sure the best or worst is yet to come....the possiblities are is another story to revisit -20th-century/
and one of many "oil rain" vids oil rain

BP still does not seem to be grasping the magnitude of the "problem" they have caused. Every time i hear the line "humans are the most intelligent creature on earth" I have to laugh out loud

the worst is yet to come

[edit on 23-6-2010 by clearmind]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 12:39 PM
reply to post by ThaLoccster

Yeah, flaming hurricanes. It was something of an inside joke at ATS I think. I still picture it quite vividly.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 01:18 PM
I know little about tsunami's.
Does anyone know how far inland they can go?

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 08:52 PM
reply to post by Under Water

Tsunamies can go several miles inland. It depends on their size.

What i think could have happened in the 1998 Papua incident was that a methane bubble suddenly erupted because of the earthquake which was only of magnitute 7 and which by itself could not have created that Tsunami, and instead it was the methane explosion which caused the tsunami.

That's what I fear could happen in the gulf, but i hope i am wrong.

[edit on 23-6-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 09:11 PM
reply to post by Under Water

How far they can go inland depends on several things, mostly on the topography of the land and the size of the tsunami.

posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:44 AM
reply to post by shapeshiftress

It mostly depends on the size of it. A very large tsunami would not be stopped by any beach, or levy, and would barely affect it. It would however lose strength and it will of course shrink as it goes inland, but that could be for miles.

[edit on 25-6-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 01:58 AM
I was wondering why they were burning the oil on top of the ocean. Wouldn't that cause more pollution?

Then I read the threads about the Hydrogen chloride, I believe it was.

The fact that6 it is a toxic gas and oil workers have sensors on them if they come in contact with it made me wonder.

Also that it is heavier than air. So it will sit on the top of the water and they can burn it off as it bubbles out of the water makes sense.

This could be the worst case scenario since it can cause birth defects and bone disorders.

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