In Greek mythology the Hyperboreans were a mythical people who lived far to the north of Thrace. The Greeks thought that Boreas, the North
Wind, lived in Thrace, and that therefore Hyperborea was an unspecified region in the northern lands that lay beyond Scythia. Their land, called
Hyperborea or Hyperboria — "beyond the Boreas" — was perfect, with the sun shining twenty-four hours a day, which - if true - suggests
a possible location within the Arctic Circle.
Never the Muse is absent
from their ways: lyres clash and flutes cry
and everywhere maiden choruses whirling.
Neither disease nor bitter old age is mixed
in their sacred blood; far from labor and battle they live.
- Pindar, Tenth Pythian Ode; translated by Richmond Lattimore.
Reaching such exotic lands is never easy; Pindar cautioned:
neither by ship nor on foot would you find
the marvellous road to the assembly of the Hyperboreans.
But OL... you just posted info that suggests otherwise and OMG! you even bolded it etc!
Yes, and the same Source then EXPLICITY CONTRADICTS ITSELF!
Alone among the Twelve Olympians, Apollo was venerated among the Hyperboreans, the Hellenes thought: he spent his winter amongst
Ok OL, so just who is this Apollo??? And when exactly was "his winter"???
In literary contexts, Apollo represents harmony, order, and reason—characteristics contrasted with those of Dionysus, god of wine, who
represents ecstasy and disorder. The contrast between the roles of these gods is reflected in the adjectives Apollonian and Dionysian. However, the
Greeks thought of the two qualities as complementary: the two gods are brothers, and when Apolloat winter left for Hyperborea,
he would leave the Delphic oracle to Dionysus. This contrast appears to be shown on the two sides of the Borghese Vase.
In Delos, there was an oracle to the Delian Apollo, during summer. The Hieron (Sanctuary) of Apollo adjacent to the Sacred Lake, was the place
where the god was said to have been born. [EDIT: Its inclusion will become apparent soon enuff, so note the summer bit OK! ]
In Delphi, the Pythia became filled with the pneuma of Apollo, said to come from a spring inside the Adyton.
People consulted the Delphic oracle on everything from important matters of public policy to personal affairs. The oracle could not be
consultedduring the winter months, for this was traditionally the time when Apollo would live among the Hyperboreans. Dionysus would
inhabit the temple during his absence.
Seems so good so far OL, but I'm a tired and lazy lurker so you'd best be giving us all a real good geography lesson with pretty pictures and all
ESPECIALLY since you aussies claim you are all so good at it...
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the pretty pictu...uhm geography lesson [cough]!
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Nobody seems to be responding to this, probably because you got lost somewhere in the middle of your argument and did not get around to completing
Let me finish it off for you.
I think your argument is;
The Greeks said that Apollo (the sun) spent the winter in Hyperborea.
But the sun actually spends the northern winter "in" the southern hemisphere.
Therefore Hyperborea is in the southern hemisphere.
The flaw in this argument is the meaning of the word Hyperborea.
"The Far North".
I think the your true argument would have to be;
The Greeks said that Apollo spends the winter in Hyperborea.
But the sun actually spends the northern winter in the southern hemisphere.
Therefore the Greeks were mistaken.
Well technically, if you pick the "North" direction, and go that way past the Arctic, and keep going that same way, you will eventually land in the
So maybe that is how the Piri Reis map and the Mercator maps etc etc have places like Greenland and Antarctica extremely accurate.
Why because they obviously had world wide travel back far before we can imagine.
So maybe Antarctica is indeed Atlantis after all.
The legend states directly the location of "Hyperborea was perfect",
and the sun was up all the time. They loved Apollo too it claims.
However, we have 1 problem. Age.
Ancient Greece happened at least 9000 years after the flood of Atlantis according to reports passed down by Plato which he got from someone whom got
it from Solon.
So this would mean, if any of this is even half-true. That Apollo lived during the time of Atlantis. Granted that Antarctica is indeed the frozen
remains of Atlantis, and that Hyperborea is also Atlantis/Antarctica.
Didn't plato place Atlantis to the west of Greece if I'm
not all that off?
What if North for the greeks is South for us?
I mean, north and south are just words,
they don't mean anything
unless we give them a meaning.
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P.S. Since this thread is mostly steaming waffle, I recommend taking it with a bowl of refreshing icecream OK!
a hoax? the greeks knew that apollos shepards just across the danube built mythologically huge cities etc and had been doing that for thousands of
years. it is true that if you look at what they built its pretty hard to call it anything but mythical.
HYPERBOREA was a fabulous realm of eternal spring located in the far north beyond the land of winter. Its people were a blessed, long-lived race
free of war, hard toil, and the ravages of old age and disease.
Hyperborea wasn't located anywhere on the planet.The actual description reminds more of the Shambala/hollow earth legends.Only the gods were able to
go to Hyperborea and the mortals that managed to find the place they used artifacts taken or stolen from the gods.
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