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Dutch police use 'decoy Jews' to stop anti-Semitic attacks

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posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:17 AM
I watched the programme below last week and would recommend it.

It's interesting to see, on the film makers visit to the ADL, looking for examples of anti-semitism to follow up, what is actually being reported as anti-semitism.
Most of the examples they gave him were people being refused time off by their bosses for Jewish holidays.
If that's the insidious anti-semitism they keep waving at us then I think the Jews have little to fear. Also, the Rabbis, in orthodox communities basically saying the anti-semitism doesn't exist, as portrayed by the ADL.

It was also quite a shocker watching the footage of the Israeli students on their trip to Auschwitz. It appears their heads have already been filled with the notion that, as Jews, they are hated all over the world and thus must do whatever is necessary to protect themselves. A kind of kill or be killed attitude.
That explains a lot about the Israeli mindset and attitude towards any criticism and their brutal treatment of others.

Anyhoos.... go watch it. It's a bit long but worth the time.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:31 AM
I'll never understand people who are anti-Jew.

I just don't understand it.

I have been around Jews for a long time and they can be some of the most annoying people you will ever meet but they are also some of the most beautiful people you will ever meet as well.

Some will shun you the second they realise your no a Jew and some will be there for you when you need them when your own family turns their back on you.

They are just people like everyone else.

Sure some Israelis might think they are the only humans on earth and the rest are animals who can think, but the same goes for china, India, the USA.

They are just people like every one else and have the same faults and beauty any other people have.

Sure the Jewish Mob controls the world along with the catholic mob and the Chinese communists and the Bush Cristians and the Mormons, scientologist you name it. Spiting on some poor guy on the street who has nothing to do with anything because he has a scull cap on will change none of this.

This world is crazy.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:35 AM

Originally posted by Point of No Return
It's the muslim youth that is doing this.

They are causing many problems in our big cities.

The relatively right Freedom Party of Geert Wilders won a major victory in the last elections as the traditional parties had always neglected to admit such a problem exists, until movie director Theo van Gogh got brutally killed by a radical Muslim. Since then, little has been done by them to solve the problem, yet they are crying and fussing about Wilders being a xenophobe.

People are fed up with these street terrorists. They hang around in large groups on the streets (as shown in the video), intimidate, molest, threaten and steal. Last year, bus drivers refused to drive any longer through certain neighborhoods as they were spit on and beaten up almost at a daily basis. By who? Moroccan street thugs.

However, I doubt it really is related to 'being Muslim'. (Muslim) Turks are becoming more and more integrated, are increasingly higher educated and commit themselves to be part of society, in contrast to Moroccans. Whether it is culturally related, I don't know, but it has been shown that most Moroccan youngsters born in Holland are very different from those living in Morocco. I personally think it is very much related to a lack of proper upbringing.

The bottom line is that they terrorize the streets, to the frustration of pretty much all autochthonous people, but saying that makes you a racist in the view of the left.

[edit on 23-6-2010 by Mdv2]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:36 AM
Exactly ! and that is why we have NO problem and this is all blown up.
You know how they use these things to implement new regulations an such.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:40 AM
So, am I the only one who thinks a radical muslim living in a western society sounds a bit strange.
If you have such different opinions about life, such different standards wouldn't you go somewhere else, a place less godless.
Heck, our antfarm goes totally against the grain of everything the Islam stands for.


posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:20 AM
reply to post by Mdv2

Beautiful analysis of the current situation but......

I really don't think it's fair to blaim it all on the immigrant part of our nation. Sure they cause problems but I think the general lack of respect for anything and anybody is shared by native and immigrants teenagers alike.

If you really want to see what it wrong with this country you just have to look at the television.

These are the role models and examples that they use to form their view of the world.

I know it is comfortable and easy to blaim a specific group for all the problem we have but if anybody is to blaim, it's us. The people who are suppose to be guiding these kids...

Just my humble opinion.


posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:38 AM
reply to post by operation mindcrime

This is exactly what they want to make you believe down there in The Hague. Denying and downplaying the fact that Moroccans are largely responsible for street terrorism is what led to the rise of a populist like Wilders. I see Moroccan street thugs causing problems almost on a weekly basis, whereas I hardly ever see 'natives' making themselves guilty of that behavior - not saying they don't, just not to the same extent as Moroccans, in my opinion.

The traditional parties can tell as many fairy tales as they want, the reality differs, and no, I didn't vote for Wilders as I believe he is a dangerous demagogue, but at least he has the guts to acknowledge the problem. As a result, he needs 24/7 protection to prevent ending up like Van Gogh.

Nowhere I said that immigrants are responsible for all our troubles. After all, Indonesians and people from Suriname are well integrated so are most Turks. Nevertheless, I do think that many Moroccan youngsters are a huge nuisance and denying the problem ain't gonna bring us any further.

I don't know where you live, but if it were to be Amsterdam, you would come to the same conclusion.

[edit on 23-6-2010 by Mdv2]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:38 AM
reply to post by operation mindcrime

Ah come on, it's just teenagers having fun, I agree it's a bit on the edge, but I wouldn't relate this to social trends.

These guys just like to parodize the characteristic "tough guys" of the provence of Noord-Brabant, like in the 2nd vid.

It's actually more of a satire of certain people in certain social areas.

It's more of a reaction than it is a cause.

Also, these episodes were never aired on tv.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:57 AM
Dutch police using this method is all very well, but only if the punishment for hate crimes against anyone, by anyone, is for the offender to be forced to his knees and shot in the back of the head. Xenophobes are a disease, and they have proven in times past that the only effective treatment is being subjected to total destruction.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 05:06 AM
Maybe Jews are using decoy jews to catch jew haters....
Next I'd like to see decoy blacks being used to catch black haters and decoy muslims to catch muslims haters.

oh hang on....

maybe you could use decoy blacks with caps to catch racist jews...

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 07:10 AM
reply to post by Mdv2

I understand your point of view but you know that it is ethically wrong to point your finger towards any specific group no matter how much your impression is telling you it is them.

Best you can say is that you suspect a large part of a certain ethnic group is responsible for a lot of problems in this country. But then still you can not take action against such behavior unless it's on an individual basis.

And if we are all good and ready to start kicking people out of this country because of their behavior then can we please include those native teenagers that lack any form of respect for the elderly, authority and hard working people in general?


posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 07:14 AM
reply to post by Point of No Return

Always a pleasure to differ in opinion with you Point of No Return.

I think their parody is pretty d*mn near close to the reality......or is reality being shaped by their parody??

You tell me.


[edit on 23-6-2010 by operation mindcrime]

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:26 AM
Is this really anything to do with Jews? I've been to dam on a number of occasions and had two incidents there. One night walking back to the campsite on my own drunk and having lost my mates a arab looking youth walks up to me in the middle of nowhere and tries tripping my feet numerous times. Obvious mugging attempt. Second time me and Robbo approached by gang of arab/kurdish looking lads who started mouthing off putting a blade to my friends neck. I just get the impression the young muslim population is up for it so to speak

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 10:56 AM
Its the result of many years of socialism and denying.

Nothing to do about it anymore, unless a revolt.

Police is unable by law to do something about it, politicians downplay all day long, everything is an incident, 'there is no structural problem' and bla bla bla.

It will take a few years and we have the same situation as in Paris, and Bruxelles where 3th generation immigrants swing around with AK47's.

What the jews concern, the Maroc's are against them, as most Arabics are. The use of a decoy is just a hopeless try to get a unsolvable situation under control.

A lot of our Turks do much better, but in the major cities their youth also do the same, but less.

Then, you ask why they dont go to a lesser godless country ? think again: $$$
You can get free money here, you dont need to work. Just intimidate a bit, spill your youth and future, but hey.. you look cool to your 'friends'.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 01:03 PM
reply to post by Mdv2

I have to agree with you. All the trouble I ever see or get into features Moroccan youth. In Hilversum, for cryin out loud.

I particularly enjoy the ground at my feet being spat at as I walk by these kids.

This is how it is going down in the Netherlands and this 'knuffle' bollox:

Recently me an the missus were overtaken by an Audi A4 on a busy street forcing our car off the road and also the oncoming car off the road.

As I got out the car the idiot driving the Audi has screeched to a stop. The driver gets out of the car and he's a Moroccan kid, can't be more than 17.

He is clearly scared but instead of calming down he adopts a gansta rapper walk, sticks his hand in his coat and pretends he has a gun.

By this time I and the missus are laughing. This upsets him even more and he then get's on his mobile and pretends to order a hit on us. Can you believe this sh1t? Ik maak je af, man. blah blah.

I'm starting to lose my sense of humor when the driver from the other car that was forced off, comes over and says he's called the politie.

Now the guy who caused this, tries to get back in his car and drive off. I restrain him. This kid is all mouth and trembling like baby.

The driver who called the police tells me to be careful, because, and this is the thing that really made me think.
The cops had asked WHO was involved AND the ethnic backgrounds.

Lo' and behold, not one, not two, but three cops of Turkish, Morrocan and Asian backgrounds turn up.

The kid gets away with threatening behavior, threatening to kill me and the wife, reckless driving and causing the accident. He then drives off in what later turned out to be a stolen car. ( The cops didn't even check the plates. )

Up until the cops found out the car was stolen, I was up for assault for preventing this kid from leaving the scene of an accident. I had grabbed him by the fluffy hood of his They let him go there and then and arrested me. My wife had taken the number down and give it to the station cop, 30mins later I walked out. They did apologize

Now I do not have a problem with anyone. At all. That's why I came to live in this country. But I feel we are being played against each other.

And man, just don't get involved with these kid's because you are automatically in the wrong.

I was out in Amsterdam a couple of nights ago, I always feel safe in that city but now I suppose I'll have to keep an eye out.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 01:16 PM

Originally posted by dolphinfan

You use decoys to lure animals. That the Dutch are using decoys to lure this human refuse is disgusting and shameful.
(visit the link for the full news article)

I agree with this. When i saw the title, the first thing that popped in my mind was duck hunting.

Then i wondered what their "Jew call" sounded like, before realizing that my silliness was going to get the best of me.

posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 02:11 PM
reply to post by Sam Vimes

This is so typical.

And then they wonder why Pim and Geert got so many votes..

posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 06:00 AM

Meer dan de helft van de Marokkaanse jongens in Nederland is vóór zijn 22ste in aanraking geweest met de politie. Bij een derde van deze groep gebeurde dat zelfs vijf keer of vaker. Dat blijkt uit onderzoek dat is gepubliceerd in het Tijdschrift voor Criminologie.


More than half of the Moroccan youth in the Netherlands has been in contact with police before their twenty-second birthday while one third of this group has been in contact with police five times or more. This is evident from research that was published in the journal of Criminology.

Need I say more? No, there's is no such problem as Moroccan street terrorism.

[edit on 25-6-2010 by Mdv2]

posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Mdv2
More than half of the Moroccan youth in the Netherlands has been in contact with police before their twenty-second birthday while one third of this group has been in contact with police five times or more. This is evident from research that was published in the journal of Criminology.

Need I say more? No, there's is no such problem as Moroccan street terrorism.

Now hold on a minute. Are you sure that the negative, illegal and counter-productive behaviour displayed by these Moroccan youths has NOTHING to do with the intolerant attitude of the Dutch people as a whole? You have to understand those Moroccan youths come from a different culture and will find it hard to adapt. Sure, their behaviour is probably making life difficult for the majority of people who live there...but I somehow can't help but feel like we as a society are to blame for the failures of these youth.

That statistic merely shows that Dutch police are discriminating against a minority. Until this unfair profiling of Moroccan youth is resolved, more Moroccan youth will be arrested mainly because of their ethnicity as opposed to their actions.


Would I make a good politician in the Netherlands?

[edit on 25/6/2010 by Dark Ghost]

posted on Jun, 25 2010 @ 10:09 AM

Originally posted by dolphinfan

This is a lame response to pure thuggery. Amsterdam was once a fantastic city with a liberal, live and let live culture. It has been turned into a city of angry, violent thugs.

Visiting Amsterdam last year and staying in a nice hotel, I was told not to go outside in any part of the city at night by myself. I was told by both the police and the hotel employees not to take my children out and about other than in a couple of neighborhoods and certainly not after dusk.

What is going on? It is a complete lack of law enforcement and punishment targeted at young, drug abusing thugs.

You use decoys to lure animals. That the Dutch are using decoys to lure this human refuse is disgusting and shameful.
(visit the link for the full news article)

How is this cowardice? How do you know who the criminals are otherwise? People use "decoys" all the time in law enforcement with great success from hookers to drug dealers. If there is a large problem with heckling of people with Jewish origin then this is the proper law enforcement response. I think this is actually doing exactly what you wish they would I don't see why you have a problem with it...

[edit on 25-6-2010 by yellowcard]

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