Obama Considers Mass Amnesty by Executive Order, page 1

Senators Challenge Pres. Obama on Rumors of Executive Order Amnesty

Several Senators have learned of a possible plan by the Obama Administration that would provide a mass Amnesty for the nation's 11-18 million illegal aliens. Led by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), eight Senators addressed a letter to the President asking for answers to questions about a plan that would allow DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano to provide an amnesty if they can't secure enough votes for a bill in the Senate.

The letter that was sent to Pres. Obama earlier today asks the President for clarification on the use of deferred action or parole for illegal aliens. The executive actions are typically used in special cases and are evaluated on a case-by-case basis, but if 60 votes can't be secured in the Senate to pass a mass Amnesty, the Administration may use the discretionary actions as an alternative.

Source: www.freerepublic.com...

If Obama can do this with Executive Order, the U.S.A has become a De-facto Corporate Dictatorship.

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Sen. Kyl: 'Obama Says No Border Security without Amnesty'

In a stunning revelation at an Arizona town hall meeting this past Friday, Republican Senator Jon Kyl told his constituents that President Obama privately insisted that he will not secure the border until amnesty for illegal aliens passes first. According to Kyl, Obama argued that Democrats would lose their bargaining chips for any type of amnesty if the government beefs up its presence on the chaotic border. “The problem is,” Obama allegedly told Kyl, "If we secure the border, then you all won’t have any reason to support comprehensive immigration reform.”








[edit on 22-6-2010 by zzombie]

reply to post by zzombie

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While I am not in favor of "mass amnesty" I do think this is an important part of a REAL solution to the immigration problem.

First and foremost the border must be secured.

Secondly the legal immigration process has to be streamlined and we have to set up satellite offices across the border to help them immigrate lawfully.

Lastly, we have to have an "amnesty period" where illegals can turn themselves in and go through the legal process of becoming immigrants. They can be checked out and documented and given their papers.

NOW...after these three steps are taken, anybody remaining illegally should be treated as a foreign combatant or dangerous criminal. The border cannot be so porous, and the penalties for sneaking across should be SEVERE! But, first we have to fix the current situation.

Here is my solution thread from a long while back:
How to Fix Immigration:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by getreadyalready

People forget, mass amnesty was already given by the Regan Administration to 3 million Illegals. It was supposed to be a one time deal, followed by strong border security.

Lets see if you do your math. Amnesty for 3 Million gives us 15 Million More Illegals 5X.

Amnesty for 15 Million, no lets not even go there.

reply to post by zzombie

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Exactly right. A one time mass amnesty makes things far worse, not better!

The only way it is effective is if they first tighten up the border, second, begin processing more legal immigration apps, and third force the current illegals to turn themselves in and go through a vetting process to get their amnesty. The hardworking ones that have started to build a life for themselves get to stay, while the others have to go.

When they go, they are reminded that the next offense will carry severe consequences, if they survive the highly patrolled border incursion!

reply to post by getreadyalready

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A little background on the reasoning for my plan:
I worked in the construction industry, and I come from the Midwest where Clinton "saved" Arkansas by building Turkey and Chicken processing plants and creating tens of thousands of jobs that nobody wanted!

I realize that our infrastructure is highly dependent on this labor pool, and that certain industries would be shut down if we removed all the illegal immigrants.

I also understand that many of the illegal immigrants are learning English and attempting to meld into our society. They are often hard-working families with high morals and virtues and work ethics. So they shouldn't be looked down upon or treated as criminals.

So, how do we account for these people, prop up the industries that depend on them, and at the same time take the burden off the taxpayers, and shore up our borders from threats??

Steps 1 through 3 as I already mentioned and Then...
step 4 and 5 of my plan:

4. After the 6 month Amnesty Period, We enlist our businesses and Hospitals, and Driver's License Bureaus, and every American to report illegal aliens! If we know they are here, and we don't get them deported, then we are all guilty!
If they show up at the ER, we patch them up, and then we arrest and deport!
If they show up looking for work, we document them, take their info, and give it to immigration!
If they want a Driver's License, we take their info, and we direct them to the licensed officer waiting to deport them!

5. We document Deported Aliens, and we make it clear that a second offense will be treated as a criminal offense, if they survive the encounter! We document, fingerprint, and database everyone who is deported, and we compare that info on every person we pick up.

There are 7 total steps, and surely still room for improvement.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by theregonnakillme

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Hmm.. die quickly from a volcano, or die slowly from the contaminated water...

Mexico, as a country, has nothing I would bother spitting on. That has no bearing on the people of that country. It's just the country is a cesspool.

If that happens, point your compass north.

reply to post by PayMeh

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Can we hear from the Canadians on this please? Yellowstone wipes out the west, the oil spill toxic soup handles the east, Mexico's too dangerous and Canada doesn't want us. I can see us all descending on Missouri.

It's so nice to have friends In Missouri.

reply to post by theregonnakillme

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I don't think we well be all that safe in Mexico... If a Super Volcano goes... there is really no where to run. the entire planet well feel it's affects. Most of America well be wiped off the map... but for those who survive... they get some really rich farm land.

reply to post by Someone336

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They probably send more money back to Mexico than they pay into the coffers here. That's a guess, but But otherwise, why would the Mexican government be so up in arms about Arizona's law? To the point that they are petitioning our courts to reverse it? Give me a break.

And if they're working illegally now chances are they're not paying taxes anyway and would continue not to. I mean who would if they could get away with not paying, right? Sure, eventually if they want true amnesty they'll have to, but with the speed at which things move in this country, that could be a while. Yet the drain on our few remaining taxpayers and our tax base would continue.

I hope he "considers" long and hard. And above all considers that there are existing LAWS and that the vast majority of Americans would probably oppose this move.


[edit on 22-6-2010 by ~Lucidity]

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