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Wikileaks & UFO's

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posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 01:04 AM
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Maam, maybe I must write here under your dictation?
Don’t reveal the origin of your salary and keep in mind
that I have an experience and impressions from many
forums. On kosmopoisk.ru for example they use the
members as working ants to gather data about the UFOs
and the paranormal events.




posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 11:46 AM
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achanth
Mr Assange,
have there ever been documents forwarded to you which deal with the topic of UFOs or extraterrestrials?

Julian Assange:
Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the anti-christ whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot-plant. However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules.
1) that the documents not be self-authored;
2) that they be original.
However, it is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs


from the Questions and answers on the site of the Guardian

Can't wait to see what is in those cable. The next weeks will be exiting. Hoping for a Christmas present M. Assange.



posted on Dec, 3 2010 @ 12:04 PM
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The truth about alien visitation has always been before us, we have found it painted on cave walls from times immemorial. It has existed as legends and myths of the ancient people. Our religions are based upon it. But............The reality of "aliens" does not live up to your Hollywood generated expectations. You have been trained to believe that aliens are physically just like you and are someone you can interact with, or monstrous indiduals you can kill. When someone shows you that there are unseen and generally unfelt entities all around you, you hurry by without examining the evidence. Those of us that have tried to explain this to you tire of your rhetoric and keep the knowledge to ourselves.



posted on Dec, 4 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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So TPTB can supposedly tolerate leaks which show high up government crimminality-think Hilary and the UN spying orders,

But will they allow these UFO cables to see the light of day?
Or the bank info wikileaks have been teasing us with?
It remains to be seen of course,but maybe just maybe the references to UFOs could actually shed some light on black projects which may resemble triangle shaped craft.

The US and UK do have such secret projects IMO,and I doubt they want the world to find out the specifics.

If Assange and co had not done the multiple encrypted insurance file(the key released automatically if they die)they would already have been dissappeared I think.

Maybe thats what they meant by changing the history of the world?
Sure is an interesting event,with or without the UFO angle.

Mad times indeed



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by realitydiscovered
Maam, maybe I must write here under your dictation?
Don’t reveal the origin of your salary and keep in mind
that I have an experience and impressions from many
forums. On kosmopoisk.ru for example they use the
members as working ants to gather data about the UFOs
and the paranormal events.


Firstly, It's 'Mr'.. not 'Maam', (ad hominem noted)

Secondly, like I said in my previous post, if you didn't understand the simple language, take your paranoid rants elsewhere. They are off topic! Should you continue down this avenue, I shall report your posts and attempts to derail this thread. Also, If you wish to make thinly veiled insinuations that I am some alphabet agent,


Originally posted by realitydiscovered
Don’t reveal the origin of your salary


I will also report you for that. Is that clear enough for you?

IRM



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by debris765nju
reply to post by InfaRedMan
 

The truth about alien visitation has always been before us, we have found it painted on cave walls from times immemorial. It has existed as legends and myths of the ancient people. Our religions are based upon it. But............The reality of "aliens" does not live up to your Hollywood generated expectations. You have been trained to believe that aliens are physically just like you and are someone you can interact with, or monstrous indiduals you can kill. When someone shows you that there are unseen and generally unfelt entities all around you, you hurry by without examining the evidence. Those of us that have tried to explain this to you tire of your rhetoric and keep the knowledge to ourselves.


Purely speculative debris765nju! This is your truth, not to be confused with the truth. However, it appears to be a rather large stumbling block for you.


IRM :shk:



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 12:01 AM
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It stinks of Tavistock, you missed the right moment for your report.




posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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Save the best for last, we still don't know. I would love to see dogma stick it's foot in its mouth once some of those nasty little black ops programs are disclosed/exposed.

But clearly, it does not mean that they do not exist, just because ol' wikileaks has not puked any information out on it.

Like everything else, wikileaks has an agenda. And I'm going to make an outright assumption that Bigfoot is at the bottom of their list of goals.

Why hasn't any inkling of these things been exposed? Because is gives them leverage to relinquish it in incriments.

"You break my feet, I tell them about Blackwater. You cut my feet off, I tell them about Majestic. You shoot me in the head, you better save a bullet for yourself next."

That's my two wooden cents.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 01:46 AM
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Funny thing about perspective, one man can see a stumbling block and another man can come upon that same block and see it as a step to a higher level. I am addressing the mindset that keeps seeking answers from people who lie to you as a matter of course. A shadow is an intangible thing, you can only see it when the light is right, you can't touch it but it does have a measurable effect on our enviroment and our perceptions. As far as WikiLeaks, i seriously doubt that anything conclusive will surface about aliens and ufos simply because the security level is beyond that which was breeched.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by ThinkingCap
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Save the best for last, we still don't know. I would love to see dogma stick it's foot in its mouth once some of those nasty little black ops programs are disclosed/exposed.

But clearly, it does not mean that they do not exist, just because ol' wikileaks has not puked any information out on it.

Like everything else, wikileaks has an agenda. And I'm going to make an outright assumption that Bigfoot is at the bottom of their list of goals.

Why hasn't any inkling of these things been exposed? Because is gives them leverage to relinquish it in incriments.

"You break my feet, I tell them about Blackwater. You cut my feet off, I tell them about Majestic. You shoot me in the head, you better save a bullet for yourself next."

That's my two wooden cents.


It's hard to argue with many of those points ThinkingCap. They may very well be true. I'm sure that wikileaks has an agenda of it's own which I believe at this point, does not include UFO's. Thanks for your input mate!

IRM



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by debris765nju
reply to post by InfaRedMan
 

As far as WikiLeaks, i seriously doubt that anything conclusive will surface about aliens and ufos simply because the security level is beyond that which was breeched.


Or... It's simply not part of their agenda at this time. I'm sure there would be some good bargaining chips there though. Not necessarily UFO's in the classic sense but black programs relating to experimental aircraft, satellites and so forth.

IRM



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Star and Flag....this is one of the best threads i have read....great contributions, well articluated points, and a civilized discussion. ..great work guys



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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As wikileaks itself has stated they have no Top Secret documents. I would imagine UFO documents would be TOP Secret...at least if they had anything of value. While I am looking foward to reading what they do have, I don't expect to find anything earth shattering i.e. Aliens are real they are here kind of thing.

I do wonder how they decide to release information though, as in what order and what to hold back for insurance. Of course they could be lying about not having Top Secret documents.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by FoxBenBen
Star and Flag....this is one of the best threads i have read....great contributions, well articluated points, and a civilized discussion. ..great work guys


Thanks FoxBenBen!

It's not too bad when everyone stays on topic... but generally pretty civil.


I'm interested in hearing your take on things!

Cheers,
IRM



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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I am in agreement with you on the black ops and such and WikiLeaks having their own agenda. I do feel that if they are in possession of the truth, for good or for ill, it should be shared with everyone. We all share the same planet so it concerns everyone. No one is above the law nor should they be blessed with a cloak of secrecy.



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 12:11 PM
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I found this. www.eutimes.net...



A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for President Medvedev by Russian Space Forces (VKS) 45th Division of Space Control says that an upcoming WikiLeaks release of secret US cables details that the Americans have been “engaged” since 2004 in a “war” against UFO’s based on or near the Continent of Antarctica, particularly the Southern Ocean.

According to this report, the United States went to its highest alert level on June 10, 2004 after a massive fleet of UFO’s “suddenly emerged” from the Southern Ocean and approached Guadalajara, Mexico barely 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) from the American border. Prior to reaching the US border, however, this massive UFO fleet is said in this report to have “dimensionally returned” to their Southern Ocean “home base”.


The fears of the Americans regarding these Southern Ocean UFO’s began, this report says, during the unprecedented events of July 11, 1991 (referred to as 7/11) when during the Solar Eclipse these mysterious aircraft appeared by the hundreds over nearly all of Mexico, even their Capital city. Most notable about the events of 7/11 were that as millions of Mexicans were watching on their televisions the National broadcasts of these UFO’s over Mexico City, the American media refused to allow their people to view it.

**NOTE: I'm from Mexico and I don't remember any of this. I was a kid though, so I might need to check back on this information**

Since 2004, this report continues, fleets of Southern Ocean UFO’s have continued to emerge from their bases, with the latest such event being this Friday past when another of their massive fleets was sighted over the South American Nation of Chile.

The “immediate danger” to our World when these massive UFO fleets emerge from the Southern Ocean, this report warns, are the massive waves caused by their sudden eruption from what are believed to be their underwater base, or bases. In the past week alone, the Clelia II, an Antarctic cruise ship with 160 people onboard, was nearly capsized when hit by waves generated by these UFO’s emerging from the Southern Ocean, and just today the Number One Insung has been reported sunk with only 20 of its 42 member crew said saved due to the same cause. NOTE: CNN article here edition.cnn.com...

Interesting to note in this report is its confirming our October 14th report US Shuts Down New York City Airspace Over UFO ‘Threat’ that these same Southern Ocean UFO’s were responsible for the closing of the airspace over New York City this past fall (October 13th) when they “appeared” openly and were witnessed by tens of thousands of people, and which, coincidentally, occurred during the same time frame as the mysterious Crystal Skulls of the ancient South American peoples were being exhibited there too.

Even more interesting to note is that the mysterious earthquakes being reported in the Gulf of Aden (where another “extraterrestrial” event is currently ongoing and we had reported on in our December 1st report Mysterious ‘Vortex’ Warned Is Creating Global Weather Catastrophe) are now being reported occurring in the Southern Ocean too.

This report goes on to state that after WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange warned last week that he would begin releasing secret US cables relating to these Southern Ocean UFO’s, and the Americans “war” against them, he was immediately arrested by British Police on trumped up charges issued by the Swedish government which in our December 8th report, Global Rebellion Erupts After “Unprotected Sex Meets Disrobed Governments”, we noted were engineered against him as a “classic” CIA “Honey Trap”.

Note: Since our last report on the EU-US frame-up of Assange it is now being reported that one of his two accusers, Anna Ardin, has fled Sweden and is now in hiding in the Palestinian territories.

To if Assange, or his WikiLeaks website, will survive to see the whole release of these Southern Ocean UFO files it is not to our knowing, nor does this report say.


**NOTE: Then it gets.... weird.... :/ ***


What is in our knowing, however, and when coupled with the information we reported on in our December 10th report Massive Earthquake Fears Rise After Mysterious Object Moves Nearer To Earth, suggests that the timing of these events, as we near the December 20/21 Total Lunar Eclipse, and as Mercury turns retrograde and joins Mars as it forms a conjunction with Pluto, that the ending of this year, 2010, truly marks the ending of this age as prophesied by the ancients.


In the Sorcha Faal’s seminal work published in 2007, Battle Begins For Throne of This World: The Return of the Einherjar Warriors, she notes that in these “last days” the “guideposts” to what the future will hold for humanity does, indeed, rest hidden to the discerning reader in the words handed down to us by the ancients, none being more important in this case than those of Nostradamus, who in writing of this coming Lunar Eclipse and feared conjunctions warned:

“The arms to fight in the sky a long time,
The tree in the middle of the city fallen:
Sacred bough clipped, steel, in the face of the firebrand,
Then the Monarch of Adria fallen.” Quatrain 3:11

Most ominously for our World today, “the tree in the middle of the city” has, indeed, “fallen” with news from Glastonbury that the 2,000-year-old Holy Thorn Tree, one of Christianities oldest and most revered symbols, has been cut down by vandals. With the great tree now “fallen”, the battle for this Earth now moves to the “sky” until the “Monarch of Adria” (Pope Benedict XVI) has “fallen” too.


**NOTE:



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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It would be interesting to know how many of the cablegate cables originate from the US Belgian embassy in Brussels from 1990.

If you are looking for a likely candidate for 'UFO Mentions' I would suggest this incident may have caused enough of a flap at the time to be 'mentioned in despatches' by embassy staff who would otherwise not be interested. Something along the lines of WTF, is that us?

Just a thought.



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by justwokeup
It would be interesting to know how many of the cablegate cables originate from the US Belgian embassy in Brussels from 1990.

If you are looking for a likely candidate for 'UFO Mentions' I would suggest this incident may have caused enough of a flap at the time to be 'mentioned in despatches' by embassy staff who would otherwise not be interested. Something along the lines of WTF, is that us?

Just a thought.


Quite possibly a good place to look cables!

Unfortunately, Assange has been quoted recently as saying (and I'm paraphrasing) that there isn't anything of worth regarding UFO's in any of the material held by Wikileaks.. but he does get a lot of delusional letters from people who think they are aliens etc. Sadly, that last bit should sound very familiar to anyone who frequents forums of this type.

As I've always said, it's those types of delusional people that bring UFOlogy into complete disrepute and makes it the butt of many a joke. You know, if we got rid of the whack-jobs, we might start getting somewhere. Until that day, the field of research will never be taken seriously and those with real information may withhold it due to a fear of guilt through association. Of course, this is all speculative at best.

IRM
edit on 14/12/10 by InfaRedMan because: typos n stuff!



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 09:54 PM
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grandnic posted the quote from the Guardian a few posts up.
It seems there is some mention, but evidently nothing earth shattering.



posted on Dec, 14 2010 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Sabreblade
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grandnic posted the quote from the Guardian a few posts up.
It seems there is some mention, but evidently nothing earth shattering.



Yeah.. Cheers! I think many people are pinning unrealistic hopes on a smoking gun from Wikileaks, and in the process conjuring up all types of scenarios that simply don't exist. It honestly doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon, simply because they are in possession of no such thing.

Thanks for your input Sabreblade


IRM



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