The Texas GOP Wants To Punish Straight People Who Support Gay Rights?

Somehow, we Texans, and yes, we Americans in general get rapped for racism. Now, it seems we are equated with the Germans Jew hating Nazi's.

You know, the French sweep their dirt under the carpet. It appears they have their image firmly under control

www.france-for-visitors.com...

How about those Italians?

www.i-italy.org...

No racism in the UK?

news.bbc.co.uk...


As far as LGBT "rights" or policy, America is actually more liberal than most, somewhere along the lines of Western Europe overall.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

We could go back and forth all day with videos...I think the "crazy" tea party videos far outnumber the "sane" tea party videos. But let's be honest...they are both biased. You can go to any event for anything and find crazy people and sane people...it is just my personal opinion that I think the crazies outnumber the sane people at Tea Party events.


I drove by a local Tea Party in my area...I was going to go...but after seeing the Obama as Hitler signs and the "Death Panels" signs (this was during the HC debate)...I just kept on driving. Honestly...that is all I needed to see...there were only about 20-30 people there...and in this case it was all old white people.


Like I said...you can keep pretending that the Tea Party is currently this noble cause where logical people gather...but I very strongly disagree.

The tea party is for reducing government, therefore it is a noble cause.

Government is violence.

Since the tea parties are against government, they are against violence.

Being against violence is noble.

People that support government support violence, the use of violence to get ones way is tyranny.




[edit on 22-6-2010 by mnemeth1]

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

We could go back and forth all day with videos...I think the "crazy" tea party videos far outnumber the "sane" tea party videos. But let's be honest...they are both biased. You can go to any event for anything and find crazy people and sane people...it is just my personal opinion that I think the crazies outnumber the sane people at Tea Party events.


I drove by a local Tea Party in my area...I was going to go...but after seeing the Obama as Hitler signs and the "Death Panels" signs (this was during the HC debate)...I just kept on driving. Honestly...that is all I needed to see...there were only about 20-30 people there...and in this case it was all old white people.


Like I said...you can keep pretending that the Tea Party is currently this noble cause where logical people gather...but I very strongly disagree.

Apparently the point that the tea party has been taken over hasn't gotten across to you yet, so let me make that point.

The tea party has been taken over.

Neo-Cons by nature are bat# crazy. I wonder why the tea party appears bat# crazy?

Maybe it's because of the neo-cons? I don't know, just a suggestion.

The tea party has existed far longer than people think. It's been around since about 2007. It was comprised of constitutionalists, libertarians, and anarchists. They weren't preaching about religion. They didn't want war with anyone. They supported the constitution 100%. They were against the war. They were against the war on drugs. They were against the violation of civil and inalienable natural rights.

With the help of faux noose, Neo-cons started shedding their scaly skin and turned into quasi-libertarians, or LINO's if you will. They were libertarians...when it benefited themselves. When it didn't they were totalitarian assholes. That's what the tea party is now.

Now, I don't know the current tea party that well. It's very big now. It's very different wherever you go. But from what I know, the tea party can be summed up to the two parts I've mentioned; libertarians and LINO's.

Basically you've got Ron Paul and you've got Sarah Palin. One is a libertarian, the other is a LINO. That's basically what the tea party is now.

The trend of Texas lately suggests the following laws and penalties are NOT an unlikely possibility in the near future:

1. Premarital sex = Automatic castration of reproductive organ.

2. ANY disagreement of the Bible and christian faith = Stoned to death.

3. Friendship or association with a non-christian = Death by sword.

4. Refusal to offer animal sacrifice for God = Death of your 1st born child.

5. Absenteeism from church = 3500 hours community service.

6. Any public or private affection towards a member of the same sex whether of sexual nature or not = Public hanging.

"Dont mess with Texas" -- No messing required, its already MESSED up!



[edit on 22-6-2010 by Shine71]

Wow talk about fabricating a story. No offense but there is some hoaxing here. Here's the actual platform.

www.1888932-2946.ws...


Family and Defense of Marriage – We support the definition of marriage as a God–ordained, legal and moral commitment
only between a natural man and a natural woman, which is the foundational unit of a healthy society, and we oppose the
assault on marriage by judicial activists. We call on the President and Congress to take immediate action to defend the
sanctity of marriage. We are resolute that Congress exercise authority under the United States Constitution, and pass
legislation withholding jurisdiction from the Federal Courts in cases involving family law, especially any changes in the
definition of marriage. We further call on Congress to pass and the state legislatures to ratify a marriage amendment
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declaring that marriage in the United States shall consist of and be recognized only as the union of a natural man and a
natural woman. Neither the United States nor any state shall recognize or grant to any unmarried person the legal rights
or status of a spouse. We oppose the recognition of and granting of benefits to people who represent themselves as
domestic partners without being legally married. We advocate the repeal of laws that place an unfair tax burden on
families. We call upon Congress to completely remove the marriage penalty in the tax code, whereby a married couple
receives a smaller standard deduction than their unmarried counterparts living together. The primary family unit consists
of those related by blood, heterosexual marriage, or adoption. The family is responsible for its own welfare, education,
moral training, conduct, and property.
Family Values – We affirm that this section is a response to the attacks on traditional family values. These include wellfunded,
vigorous political and judicial attempts by powerful organizations and branches of the government to force
acceptance, affirmation and normalization of homosexual behavior upon school children, parents, educational institutions,
businesses, employees, government bodies and religious institutions and charities. These aggressive, intolerant efforts
marginalize as bigots anyone who dissents.
Marriage and Divorce – We believe in the sanctity of marriage and that the integrity of this institution should be protected
at all levels of government. We urge the Legislature to rescind no–fault divorce laws. We support Covenant Marriage.
Marriage Licenses – We support legislation that would make it a felony to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple
and for any civil official to perform a marriage ceremony for such.
Homosexuality – We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown
of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the
fundamental, unchanging truths that have been
ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be
presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to
include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant
special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin),
custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil
penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.
Texas Sodomy Statutes – We oppose the legalization of sodomy. We demand that Congress exercise its authority
granted by the U.S. Constitution to withhold jurisdiction from the federal courts from cases involving sodomy.
Pornography – We urge our governmental bodies to enforce laws regarding all forms of pornography. We urge more
stringent legislation to prohibit all pornography including virtual pornography and operation of sexually–oriented
businesses. We oppose the sale of “Not Rated” (NR) movies and video games to minors.

What I read is that they oppose federal courts from ruling on family law. THey want a legal definition of marrige, 1 natural man and 1 natural woman. Removal of the marrrige penalty. THey don't want the normalization of homosexuality in schools. A felony to issie a marrige license to same sex partners or perform the ceremony. They oppose any entitlements for homosexual couples, insurance benefits, tax deductions etc... THey want the legality of sodomy to be left in the states hands. And actually enforce existing porn laws. Then prohibit all pornography related businesses.

Sorry I don't see a chapter devoted to homosexuality. From what I see they are a group of strict constitutionalists who want more government in the hands of the state rather than the fed.

I'm an agnostic and I don't support gay marrige or civil unions. Marrige is a religous principal. Even the civil union is based on a religous principal. There is no major religon that supports gay marrige or doesn't view it as a sin. Why would a gay couple want to be married(a religous principal) into a religon that condemns their lifestyle? Being as no major religons accept gay marrige then why would the government bother to recognize it, being as it's a religous ceremony? A hetero couple that isn't married gets the same benefits and penalties as a gay couple. But hell what I think doesn't matter leave it to the states to determine their policy. But because marrige is recognized in the tax code and there are specific benefits and penalties the federal govt must have a definition. The framers didn't define marrige because everyone knew what it was, and a homsexual marrige wouldn't have been allowed. I could give 2 sh!t$ what folks do but being as that portion of the tax code is based on a religous principal then it should remain as a man and a woman. Now if states want to inact there own laws regard gay marrige, cool. They can adjust their state code and insurance requirements etc....

A felony to issue a marrige cert to a gay couple or perform the ceremony is stupid. It belongs to the state courts.

Promoting homosexuality in public schools again should belong to the states. Teaching anything regarding homosexuality short of a govt class is ridiculous anyway. Sex ed in the scientiffic sense has a place in schools, but not a how to have anal sex segment. It belongs at home. But I don't think schools have any business handing out condoms anyway.

They want the legality of sodomy left up to the state. Now that's cool, but in my bedroom with my wife, we'll do what we like. The government has no business regulating that. And the states should recognize that.

Banning all sex related businesses should be left to the states.

My only problem is the hypocricy of the platform. Texas supports state rights when it suits there needs and wants federal statutes to further their agenda. They had it right with everything they wanted the states to handle. The only thing I found truly invasive is if they want to make sodomy illegal.

And I'm far from antigay. I live in New Orleans, homosexuality is accepted here moreso than anywhere else. But marrige is a religous principal. If a gay couple truly wants to get married as a representation of their love, and their is a religon that will recognize it then go for it. I love my wife and we would have been married even if we couldn't go on the same insurance or get some tax advantages. Because we love each other and that's what we chose to do. I wouldn't care if the govt recognized it or not. Because our committment to eachother is the most important thing.

reply to post by DrJay1975


That sound worst that what I got in the link



Really, I need some bigot in a political party position of power to tell me how to run my life and how have sex and with who.

Thanks for the post.

This is a feel good law.

It will get them a lot of votes from the religious right bible thumpers.

Then the courts will overturn the law and the GOP will say we tried.
that will be the end of it.

Very few discriminatory laws even stand the test of the courts.

If they pass the law a court case will be filed within 24 hours to overturn it.

blog.news-record.com...
www.naiaonline.org...

reply to post by marg6043


I have been in touch with family and friends in Tejas lately and this GOP pandering to the right wing isn't working quite as well as planned and looming on the horizon is a huge backlash from Texans that actually see thru this transparent theater of the absurd.

If they're going to make sodomy illegal, they better pull their heads out of their asses beforehand, lest they all get arrested for sodomy.

Yay . . . another lets bash Texas thread.

Damn those evil Texans

How about you get your own states and countries out of the gutters, and let us alone. We are doing a whole lot better than the majority of the world.

Edit: The only flaw I see is not getting Medina out of the Primaries. Hopefully the sheep will learn by next time.


Edit x2: I have lived all over this great state, and this is my observation. Most Texans, save for the Rio Grande Valley, Houston, and South Dallas, at least lean towards Libertarian, but that is split between right wing and left wing. The problem is that the state forces candidates into a RvD thing, and the three areas I mentioned are very high in population . . . and those are the ones that vote for the R (suburbia) and the D (inner-city) just because of the letter . . . or someone in the family knows the candidate so they have to vote for them.



[edit on 6/22/2010 by Lemon.Fresh]

I think it is about time all gays in America should boycott Texas. I think it best that all gay people in Texas should pack up, move to anther state, and take their money with them.

If Texas wants to continue to be a goodolboy state and wallow in their hatred, ignorance, then so be it. I think Texas should break away from the union and declare it’s self a country of its own. If Texas wants to run it’s state like a Nazi concentration camp using the holy bible as a weapon then let these back wooded ideologist politicians deny freedom from its people. In the long run Texas will destroy it’s self. The rest of the United States will have no problems welcoming homosexuals and their money.

The sodomy laws I assume will also mean straight men and woman from having ORAL sex as well. So much for privacy in your bedrooms and I assume there will be bible thumpers spying on you with secret cameras to make dame sure you penetrate the right hole and keep your mouth shut.
I have a genuine dislike against this kind of hatred and ignorance, and I believe most Americans in the real world do as well.



[edit on 22-6-2010 by impressme]

Originally posted by DrJay1975
We support Covenant Marriage.

This guy can fix that...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5926d9ff0baa.jpg[/atsimg]

I love my wife and we would have been married even if we couldn't go on the same insurance or get some tax advantages.

But you can! See, this is where the whole discrimination issue comes up and the federal government needs to intervene. Should the federal government let all discriminatory laws be up to the states. Why not? My house is a little messy, and what a great help it would be if I could have my very own negro.

Originally posted by 1026TimePrompt
If they're going to make sodomy illegal, they better pull their heads out of their asses beforehand, lest they all get arrested for sodomy.

Depends on which head!


I'll be here all weekend, tip your waitress.

reply to post by whaaa


I am sure that many Texans are scratching the heads on this one, what else can they do, the GOP talking heads should know that this is going nowhere anyway.

reply to post by Sunsetspawn


This days the ruling class owns their own Latino illegal to do their house work even the Bushes had them, BTW I am Latina so I can make the joke

reply to post by impressme

Laughing out friggin loud!!!
Let's show THEM, right?

Show who?

Come on, for whom are we packing up and moving?

btW, I don't play to the crowd, I don't need stars. Don't really care for them...

(whistling.....)

So, we have created the boogeyman, and we will MOVE because of this boogeman, and somehow this will teach the boogeyman a lesson?

Originally posted by mnemeth1

The tea party is for reducing government, therefore it is a noble cause.

Government is violence.

Since the tea parties are against government, they are against violence.

Being against violence is noble.

People that support government support violence, the use of violence to get ones way is tyranny.




[edit on 22-6-2010 by mnemeth1]

My friend, are you even conscious when you type anymore?

IT appears that these folks are all about using government and creating constructs of government which is one in the same.

BTW you have to stop equating Coin and blood, they are not synonymous, unless you like to be submerged in vats of blood, I suggest you discard that rhetorical dance maneuver.

reply to post by Janky Red

I think he is trying to dumb down his statement so that YOU will understand.

Of course, I do not speak for him/her.

It seems pretty clear to me. It is unfortunate that government thrives on the stupid.

Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by Janky Red

 

I think he is trying to dumb down his statement so that YOU will understand.

Of course, I do not speak for him/her.

It seems pretty clear to me. It is unfortunate that government thrives on the stupid.

AWWW? Stewie are you calling me a retard?

So Stewie, his entire post was stupid, lets face it and by your equative skills you and he
should be crowned supreme overlords of the government of Texas Republic of Jesus

Maybe Potus and VP???

Picture helmuts with corporate logos???

You can advertise Austrian Econ, but the fact of the matter is Laissez Faire induced the French revolution. It was an instrument of the elite which provided great tyrannical
control over peoples lives and it did not work, the people starved and revolted.

Now you and Einstein's intellectual better are advocating a system that concluded with
blind vengeful blood letting, apparently to indoctrinated to examine is practical
implementation and implication. I have been steeped in this stuff here, I could recite the
fricking manual in chinese at this point. So thank you, Helmuts are your friends!

reply to post by Stewie

btW, I don't play to the crowd, I don't need stars. Don't really care for them...

(whistling.....)

Your point?

So, we have created the boogeyman, and we will MOVE because of this boogeman

Your so call boogieman is mostly the Republican Party in the goodolstate with the goodolboys probably corrupt to the core, making backroom deals with their special interest groups that help put them in office in the first place. I would not be surprised if more than half of them are homosexuals themselves, living in the closet married with kids lying to themselves and everyone around them. Some of these men, who cling to the scriptures of Christianity and at the same time, enjoy twisting the scriptures to suit their twisted beliefs, in hoping to appeal to the many brainless ignorant minds to gain support for the Politicians political agendas. These men in power have no problems practicing deviant sexual acts far more disgusting than sodomy, yet some of these Politicians would love nothing better than to wipe out the gay population just as Hitler did in trying to wipe out the Jews.

To me this is no different. Let’s pass some laws against a group of people the bible doesn’t like, because my Sunday school teacher taught me that homosexuals are an abomination and their sexual acts are forbidding, against G-ds' law, so said the preacher man.
Perhaps, I will win a seat in congress one day said the Republican from Texas, then I will be able to convince many other ignorant republicans that we need to do ethnic cleansing, or genocide of the gay population, wouldn’t that be great!
One really has to wonder what kind of sick, ignorant, moron could even stand a chance of winning an election with this kind of twisted mentality and the ignorant people who embrace it and support it are no different.

It’s bad enough 60 years later many Americans have not learned or understood what Hitler did, yet they are willing to follow and embrace Hitler’s similar agenda, except it’s not the Jews this time, its homosexuals.

I find it rather appalling that in this age of the internet where we have the whole world of information right at our fingertips that this hateful ignorance is still embraced.





[edit on 23-6-2010 by impressme]

Pure stupidity.. Second line - no further comment necessary.