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Joe Lieberman: China Can Shut Down The Internet, Why Can't We?

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posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 05:06 AM
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Hmm. Let's try this general argument on for size and see how it works.

"China can execute death sentences by firing squad one hour after the judge hands down the verdict with no possibility of appeal; why can't we?"

"China can leagally force abortions; why can't we?"

"China can pay its workers (many of whom literally live in chicken coups on rooves for homes) slave wages, why can't we?"

"China can allow its local cadres to enrich themselves through flagrant bribery and collusion with managers of state owned enterprises; why can't we?"

Thanks but no thanks, Joe.




posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 05:09 AM
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you are what you eat....and alot of what we consume is from china....
it's quite possible that we owe them so much money now, that they have a nice strong arm that is capable of forcing us to be more like them!



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
Hmm. Let's try this general argument on for size and see how it works.

"China can execute death sentences by firing squad one hour after the judge hands down the verdict with no possibility of appeal; why can't we?"

"China can leagally force abortions; why can't we?"

"China can pay its workers (many of whom literally live in chicken coups on rooves for homes) slave wages, why can't we?"

"China can allow its local cadres to enrich themselves through flagrant bribery and collusion with managers of state owned enterprises; why can't we?"

Thanks but no thanks, Joe.




3 out of 4 ain't bad... Heck, we don't need a judge nowadays. They'll continue to assassinate anyone of their choosing... Including Americans. Check the crap that's in the works/ on the books these days.



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 05:26 AM
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Originally posted by dawnstar
you are what you eat....and alot of what we consume is from china....
it's quite possible that we owe them so much money now, that they have a nice strong arm that is capable of forcing us to be more like them!


Who's to say you couldn't force them to consume their own goods by cancelling orders? I don't need a new flat panel anytime soon. The Chinese economy would literally collapse in on itself. They don't have a nation of strong enough consumer demand to sustain themselves... All they could do is ride out the dollar by buying hard assets which is apparently what they've been in the process of doing for years. Here's a more recent article:

www.reuters.com...

Now if our currency tanks or is replaced, then what sort of strong arm are we dealing with? There's a term for this. It's called cutting them off at the pass. More like a two for one deal when you include our own central bank.









[edit on 22-6-2010 by Americanist]



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 05:37 AM
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ain't my fault they refuse to pay their workers enough to be consumers....

and well, the only way the americans are gonna stop consuming is if they run into harder economic times that we have now!!!
even with the financial chaos we have now, it seems there are lots of consumers buying the crap!

but, ya, it is a double edge sword, I agree.



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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Quite simple .. China does alot of business with many countries. And in ASEAN alone economies are actually growing. Wouldnt matter if the u.s stopped buying chinese goods the u.s isnt the world.
Plenty of other markets out there to do business with contrary to the misguided belief that the u.s is the world..



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Expat888
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Quite simple .. China does alot of business with many countries. And in ASEAN alone economies are actually growing. Wouldnt matter if the u.s stopped buying chinese goods the u.s isnt the world.
Plenty of other markets out there to do business with contrary to the misguided belief that the u.s is the world..


No where did I say the U.S. is the World, but I challenge you to add up the GDP's of Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, and VietNam while comparing it to that of the United States of America alone. Let's go by the numbers here. In another related question, where do you find combined imports in any major country to support China's existing exports, if the US/ UK stopped buying? This should be interesting...



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Diplomat, that is one wicked morphed avatar.


cool AND scary.

Maybe something IS going on in the basements of Harvard & 'Fringe' is on to something.

The cloning vats in the subbasements, spawning the next generation of criminal elites.



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 10:10 PM
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it's just like what pusher's do. Get you hooked on something then take it away so you'll do anything to get it back.
physc 101



posted on Jun, 22 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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Will totalitarianism make a comeback? We asked Zbigniew Brzezinski.



Read the answer to this last question he was asked compared to the "kill switch" mentality:


On the other hand, do you think that the ability of people to share information anonymously online would make it impossible to suppress dissent as thoroughly as former totalitarian regimes such as the USSR once did?




It is more difficult to isolate societies from outside influences because of modern means of communication - but a truly fanatical regime, armed with the most advanced technology, could probably maintain such isolation for awhile. Nonetheless, the key issue is whether a new doctrine of total social change is likely to appear in the foreseeable future, and for that there is no categorical answer.




io9.com...


[edit on 22-6-2010 by Americanist]



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 03:14 PM
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cryptogon.com...

A US Senate committee has approved a wide-ranging cybersecurity bill that some critics have suggested would give the US president the authority to shut down parts of the Internet during a cyberattack.



Senator Joe Lieberman and other bill sponsors have refuted the charges that the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act gives the president an Internet “kill switch.” Instead, the bill puts limits on the powers the president already has to cause “the closing of any facility or stations for wire communication” in a time of war, as described in the Communications Act of 1934, they said in a breakdown of the bill published on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee website.



The committee unanimously approved an amended version of the legislation by voice vote Thursday, a committee spokeswoman said. The bill next moves to the Senate floor for a vote, which has not yet been scheduled.



The bill, introduced earlier this month, would establish a White House Office for Cyberspace Policy and a National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications, which would work with private US companies to create cybersecurity requirements for the electrical grid, telecommunications networks and other critical infrastructure.



The bill also would allow the US president to take emergency actions to protect critical parts of the Internet, including ordering owners of critical infrastructure to implement emergency response plans, during a cyber-emergency. The president would need congressional approval to extend a national cyber-emergency beyond 120 days under an amendment to the legislation approved by the committee.



The legislation would give the US Department of Homeland Security authority that it does not now have to respond to cyber-attacks, Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, said earlier this month.



“Our responsibility for cyber defence goes well beyond the public sector because so much of cyberspace is owned and operated by the private sector,” he said. “The Department of Homeland Security has actually shown that vulnerabilities in key private sector networks like utilities and communications could bring our economy down for a period of time if attacked or commandeered by a foreign power or cyber terrorists.”



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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I've always thought that LIEberman was the head of the Zionist/Israeli movement to infiltrate the U.S. Senate.

Why is he so obsessed about controlling the Internet with a "kill switch?" The Internet is our greatest weapon against TPTB and they know it.

September 11, 2001 was in between a majority of U.S. cities conversation from 56K to Cable/DSL Internet. The idea of a steady stream of super fast internet scares the hell out of TPTB because of the possible mass amount of information that can be shared to anyone.

If another false flag terrorist attack happens, everyone person in the U.S. will be on their computer gathering and sharing information on the Internet. Without the Internet "kill switch," that they so desperately want, they won’t be able to get away with another attack.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by tooo many pills]



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