reply to post by pavil
Just check out 350.org
-- that's all I want to discuss about Carbon Dioxide.
Human impact creates OVER 100 times what Volcanoes on the earth do -- regardless of what Dr. Rush Limbaugh has said. Though CO2 is benign -- it stays
in the atmosphere for over 100 years before it is reduced -- Methane is a stronger greenhouse gas, but it's reduced about 50% in 4 years (off the top
of my head).
Anyway, I'm more concerned right now with what to do about the Corporate takeover of this country. It's seriously annoying to rehash all these stats
-- when it's pretty basic, and the Anti Global Warming side just keeps repeating the same absolute crap and hodge-podge scientific nonsense.
This one guy keeps using BIG WORDS -- and thinks that we know how much CO2 we can get out of a gallon of gas because of the number of carbon atoms.
No, it's kind of an estimate based on chemical molarity and lots of real world testing. When you don't know, how much you don't know -- it's a
seriously troubling situation. The various gases and compounds produced by gasoline are too numerous to mention and depending on so many factors and
conditions. You don't get a complete burn. There are spontaneous conversions to other gases and ozone created and those compounds break down and
combine at various levels of the atmosphere. Some fuels create smog in winter and that's not good, so fuel is reformulated for hot and cold seasons.
I don't need to debate this -- when people destroy swamp land and add a road, they've reduced the carbon uptake cycle by an unknown million tons a
year, and added new producers of pollution.
The important thing for corporations seems to have been to get lots of people into church. Get them thinking that "Faith" is a virtue -- but not
stopping wars. And now, anyone who fights for the planet, can't be virtuous enough. They have evangelicals preaching that Satan will bring peace to
the middle east. And somehow, their fuzzy thinking has us wondering if we've been too mean to 3 corporations that raked in profits and killed an
Talking to these people is depressing. It's like arguing with 5th Graders who know everything -- but they've got a support group that says they are
geniuses when they parrot back Supply-Side economics theory.
For crying out loud; we are on the brink of ecological disaster, the world economy has been hollowed out and the portion of wealth in the US has
consolidated so that .5% own 50%. We've DONE all the Reagan suggestions, and now we've got Democrats like Obama saying things even more Conservative
and wondering why the marketplace is shrinking.
I really hope that ignorance is over represented -- because there seems to be a heaping pile of it amongst the people I meet in the South East. I work
at a Financial Services company, by the way, and most people seem to understand economics from the point of view of what those selling it want you to
think. The stock market is massively manipulated by companies like Goldman Sacks, the oil prices are manipulated by speculators and companies like BP
that cap wells and never build a new refinery and blame everything on Environmentalism and people buy it.
>> If you listen to Conservatives, listen to what they complain about -- it's nothing but Amnesty International, the UN, and people who do
Documentaries about war profiteering, health care profiteering, the wrecking of the eco-system. And what have they done to make the world a better
place? Preach tough love and building fences on the Mexican border.
I think the stupid person is me sometimes -- because I should know that I'm not dealing with people who want to make the world a better place -- I'm
dealing with people who just want to WIN and have no clue what is going on but feel like all problems are created by people who don't think as they
do. Which means they are shut off to any solutions.
>> And this NEW THEORY -- while interesting, will be just another excuse to support the status quo.