I think that this is a good thing. I don't want somebody spending my hard earned money on drugs while they are on unemployment.
Forced Drug & Alcohol Testing to get Unemployment Benefits, page 1
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Topic started on 20-6-2010 @ 02:03 PM by ExPostFacto
In a shocking amendment to the 2010 Unemployment Extension Bill, lawmakers now want to force drug & alcohol tests on the unemployed to qualify for
benefits.
www.associatedcontent.com...
Ironically the argument here is to protect freedom for those hard working Americans that contributed to unemployment benefits, and to get people off of government hand outs. So now we go from a country that does not allow invasive searches and seizures to a country that allows searches and seizures under forced taxation of the employer (paying into an unemployment fund) and forced search and seizure (for the employee to collect from the forced taxation unemployment fund).
[edit on 20-6-2010 by ExPostFacto]
The amendment to the 2010 Unemployment Extension Bill not only insinuates that the unemployed are a bunch of drug addicts and alcoholics, but that they are also addicted to getting paid while doing nothing. This argument pushes the idea that the unemployment benefits magically appeared and that hard-working Americans had nothing to do with those funds accruing over the years. And although there is little doubt that a few of those hard workers have substance abuse problems, it is hardly an epidemic that requires cutting off the only funds many of those unemployed need to maintain their households.
www.associatedcontent.com...
Ironically the argument here is to protect freedom for those hard working Americans that contributed to unemployment benefits, and to get people off of government hand outs. So now we go from a country that does not allow invasive searches and seizures to a country that allows searches and seizures under forced taxation of the employer (paying into an unemployment fund) and forced search and seizure (for the employee to collect from the forced taxation unemployment fund).
[edit on 20-6-2010 by ExPostFacto]
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:08 PM by ExPostFacto
reply to post by SUICIDEHK45
You say that like those on unemployment are somehow druggies and alcoholics. We can't even fund unemployment benefits, let alone a nation wide drug testing program.
You say that like those on unemployment are somehow druggies and alcoholics. We can't even fund unemployment benefits, let alone a nation wide drug testing program.
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:15 PM by ExPostFacto
reply to post by GreenBicMan
That is an excellent point. Congress gets public money too. Shouldn't they be drug tested? Shouldn't they get tested for alcohol?
That is an excellent point. Congress gets public money too. Shouldn't they be drug tested? Shouldn't they get tested for alcohol?
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:15 PM by SUICIDEHK45
reply to post by mr-lizard
I don't think that every unemployed person is on drugs I know several unemployed people who would never think about doing drugs and I also know many employed people who do a sh*tload of drugs. I don't think down on people who do drugs but I just don't want people talking about how they don't have any money cuz they can't find a job while they pass the meth pipe around. I also don't want my tax dollars paying for drug tests.
I don't think that every unemployed person is on drugs I know several unemployed people who would never think about doing drugs and I also know many employed people who do a sh*tload of drugs. I don't think down on people who do drugs but I just don't want people talking about how they don't have any money cuz they can't find a job while they pass the meth pipe around. I also don't want my tax dollars paying for drug tests.
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:18 PM by andy1033
reply to post by ExPostFacto
If they brought that into uk, i would be ok, do not drink or do drugs,a nd i think this sort of testing would be good, as people on the dole should not be able to afford those luxaries, lol.
If they brought that into uk, i would be ok, do not drink or do drugs,a nd i think this sort of testing would be good, as people on the dole should not be able to afford those luxaries, lol.
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:20 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by andy1033
Who cares if they spend their money on a double qtr. pounder with cheese at McDonalds or a 6 pack of Busch? Who are you to say what others should do with their money?
And really, which is worse for you? That is debatable.
[edit on 20-6-2010 by GreenBicMan]
Who cares if they spend their money on a double qtr. pounder with cheese at McDonalds or a 6 pack of Busch? Who are you to say what others should do with their money?
And really, which is worse for you? That is debatable.
[edit on 20-6-2010 by GreenBicMan]
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:22 PM by ExPostFacto
reply to post by GreenBicMan
That is absolutely correct GreenBicMan. People terminated from work for reasons of breaking company policy or breaking the law are not entitled to unemployment. They are already excluded. That leaves the less like people in the workforce, or the least conformist that become victims of lay offs (unless extreme financial distress of the company).
I would venture to say, this bill targets unemployed people who are not supporters of the status quo who speak up and report problems in the work place, who are interested in the truth and rub their boss the wrong way.
That is absolutely correct GreenBicMan. People terminated from work for reasons of breaking company policy or breaking the law are not entitled to unemployment. They are already excluded. That leaves the less like people in the workforce, or the least conformist that become victims of lay offs (unless extreme financial distress of the company).
I would venture to say, this bill targets unemployed people who are not supporters of the status quo who speak up and report problems in the work place, who are interested in the truth and rub their boss the wrong way.
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:25 PM by groingrinder
reply to post by GreenBicMan
A star for you! They should also have to blow the breathalyzer every time they come back from lunch. I do not think they should be legislating laws upon us while impaired.
A star for you! They should also have to blow the breathalyzer every time they come back from lunch. I do not think they should be legislating laws upon us while impaired.
reply posted on 20-6-2010 @ 02:27 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by ExPostFacto
It's just more bull# from rightwing America.
It is also just more bull# from congress who probably gets paid by lobbyists from the companies that do all this drug testing in the states. It is a pretty big business.
Companies like..
1.) Labcorp
2.) Quest Diagnostics
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On a side note. I used to actually go to a school that required we pee in a cup. This was a private school by the way. Anyway, long story short, there are ways to beat the system. Although, IMO, you shouldn't have to even be subjugated to that in the first place.
It's just more bull# from rightwing America.
It is also just more bull# from congress who probably gets paid by lobbyists from the companies that do all this drug testing in the states. It is a pretty big business.
Companies like..
1.) Labcorp
2.) Quest Diagnostics
___________________________________________
On a side note. I used to actually go to a school that required we pee in a cup. This was a private school by the way. Anyway, long story short, there are ways to beat the system. Although, IMO, you shouldn't have to even be subjugated to that in the first place.
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