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Originally posted by Big Raging LonerI would love to hear also some of the uses of whales currently, and if there are adequate substitutes available.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
I sincerely hope this is some hard evidence that can be used to ban whaling world wide
Why would we ban it at all?
Have we banned the wholesale slaughter of Human Beings yet? No.
Last I checked war still happens and no one banned that.
If we kill each other for ideological reasons, why the hell would we stop killing a non-human for actual economic reasons?
If I wake up tomorrow and whaling is banned worldwide, yet war still goes on; I will need some schizophrenia medications.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Big Raging Loner
Right now there are some 6 intelligent species on Earth, including us, with such higher intelligences. I certainly take precedents over preserving them for the excuse that they are cool to watch and look at.
What concerns me is the point of it all? Even cells feel pain and respond.
Emotions even are nothing more than more chemicals and more electricity. They are only as special as we make them. We can chose to through them out vulcan style, or embrace them and fail at life. Neither extreme is much good. I personally chose logic, and in my stoic like ways, have nearly destroyed anger from my mindset.
That said. Like, money, it's an imaginary element created for our own purposes.
That does not mean we should not listen to them. That does not mean that it is useless.
What it does mean is this. They're nothing to live by 100%, nor use in a judgement scale.
Logically speaking more intelligent animals are better to preserve for the simple fact that if we DO screw up, at least our dear Earth has another species to build up and develop to replace us. Perhaps, like planet of the apes, it will be the last act of our species, to ensure Earthy intelligence goes on.
Originally posted by alaskan
I was actually just 'talking' with someone the other day who wondered if dolphins could feel pain like we do.
I just don't get it, like, did millions of people just grow up ignoring dolphins like they were some kind of jerks?
IBM’s BlueGene/L supercomputer contains 4,096 processors, each tricked out with 256MB of RAM. It crunches out 360 trillion floating point operations per second. But as University of Nevada researchers have discovered, it doesn’t hold a digital candle to the mind of a mouse:
"The mouse cortex has roughly 8×10⁶ (8m) neurons and 8,000 synapses per neuron," state researchers James Frye, Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan and Dharmendra S Modha. "Assuming an average firing rate of 1Hz, the entire memory must be refreshed every second, each neuron must be updated at every simulation time step, and each neuron communicates to each of its targets at least once a second." As the team says in a gloriously deadpan way: "Modeling [sic] at this scale imposes tremendous constraints on computation, communication and memory capacity of any computing platform."
However, even this huge processing effort still only managed to run at a speed 10 times slower than real time, and only for 10 seconds – the equivalent of one second of mouse-thought. Barely enough time for a mouse to register a hungry cat in the vicinity.