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Originally posted by RogerT
Originally posted by arpanet
This thread is becoming redundant to say the least. Basically the skeptics are concerned with two main points: 1) lack of data confirming said claims 2) lack of worldwide interest in the technology.
Here's my final post for now ...
I do hope you are wrong arpanet about the thread being redundant. It's only a couple of days old and members are still enjoying their first visit to the topic.
I would hope that the thread will live for at least another 6 weeks, until all those who've ordered their Beck devices have completed a trial and reported back on how it went.
I'll certainly be sure to post my own experience once I'm done - as one of your ATS peers, I'll offer my own review for anyone who's interested
[see Doctor, that's what I was referring to: ATS peer review - ah well, sigh]
ciao for now.
RT
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
I don't have an ax to grind here one way or another. In my only other post on this thread, I asked if there have been any double-blind tests with this protocol (which is the only way you can tell if something works) and no one was aware of any such tests having been done.
Originally posted by smakka
I would just like to add, for all you non believers, that I have been using the Bob Beck protocol (Blood electrification, Silver Colloid Injestion, Magnetic Pulsing, and Ozonated Water) and have COMPLETELY CURED MYSELF of HIV. My father has cured his fibromyalgia using this treatment as well. It is absolutely not a scam, all the information is given out for free just look up bob beck's research paper, its over 40 pages in a PDF file and it has instructions on how to build your own or you can buy one online from Companies like SOTA or Unleash Health.
I have no reason to lie to you. Just try it, or at least watch Dr Beck 2 hour lecture on google videos.
Originally posted by smakka...and Ozonated Water...
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
I asked if there have been any double-blind tests with this protocol ...
Originally posted by amatrine
reply to post by arpanet
I worked for the scientist who created the ozone machine. He also cured cancer in his harm with a direct injection into the tumor itself. It was the size of a baseball. A year later , it was gone. It did leave a big hole in the arm.
I had Hep B. One year of using his machine, I no longer even have the anti-body. I also no longer have valley fever. Ozone is ALL I used to treat it.
Nodules are GONE. Everyone should have one of these,. ( well built and know how to use it as well, not the dangerous china crap) .
Always use a machine with an ozone card, not tube.
Originally posted by amatrine
reply to post by arpanet
I worked for the scientist who created the ozone machine. He also cured cancer in his harm with a direct injection into the tumor itself. It was the size of a baseball. A year later , it was gone. It did leave a big hole in the arm.
I had Hep B. One year of using his machine, I no longer even have the anti-body. I also no longer have valley fever. Ozone is ALL I used to treat it.
Nodules are GONE. Everyone should have one of these,. ( well built and know how to use it as well, not the dangerous china crap) .
Always use a machine with an ozone card, not tube.
[edit on 21-6-2010 by amatrine]
Originally posted by ATSGUY
Man it has literally been YEARS!! since i posted on ats. I am starting to feel like an old timer here!
Anyway i just wanted to give my little heads up, i started a couple of threads about "zappers" and bob beck device way back in 2005/06 but unforgettably it never picked up. Im glad this thread is getting so much attention
I have been using the Bob beck zapper for about 5+ years now and originally got my first zapper called a "silver pusler" from a company called SOTA, which was started by bob beck and continues to make his devices.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
This device is real! IF you want to test out a cheap version...you can go to this yahoo site
www.communicationagents.com...
simple to make and effective, in fact befor i bought my zapper in 06 i used the 12v battery device up top! Also worked fine, just watch out as the end of the wires, (your electrodes) can suffer from oxidation and disintegrate basically.
[edit on 22-6-2010 by ATSGUY]
Originally posted by RogerT
Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
My 68 year old mother has recently been diagnosed with an auto immune blood problem which causes lumps full of puss to develop on her arms and breast area therefore, I have just ordered the mini zap from germany which i believe is the most suitable device to help her. i also ordered one for a friend in the UK who has been diagnosed with HIV with MMS however, everyone is advising her to stay on the poison medicines and not listen. hopefully she will come round as a cure (if possible) is better than just keeping it at bay for life. As I advise her, its definately worth a try and what has she got to lose for 6 weeks of her life???
[edit on 21-6-2010 by Hongkongphooey]
Good luck with your mum?
I lost the first round to the allopaths and the rest of the family when they decided to cut burn and poison her.
Now it's back, of course, and this time I had the threat of a colostomy on my side. I think that scared mum more than dying, so she decided to quit trusting in what didn't work and try something with a rather better track record.
Last time, she looked like crap and never fully recovered her sparkle. This time, she looks better every day and the sparkle is back. She is 75.
[edit on 21/6/10 by RogerT]
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by smakka
I would just like to add, for all you non believers, that I have been using the Bob Beck protocol (Blood electrification, Silver Colloid Injestion, Magnetic Pulsing, and Ozonated Water) and have COMPLETELY CURED MYSELF of HIV. My father has cured his fibromyalgia using this treatment as well. It is absolutely not a scam, all the information is given out for free just look up bob beck's research paper, its over 40 pages in a PDF file and it has instructions on how to build your own or you can buy one online from Companies like SOTA or Unleash Health.
I have no reason to lie to you. Just try it, or at least watch Dr Beck 2 hour lecture on google videos.
It really has nothing to do with believing or non-believing….
Do you realize how special your case would be to the medical community? So you must have seen doctors in the beginning after you found out you contracted HIV, and you must have had many positive blood samples done. Showing your HIV positive samples and that you are now HIV free would generate huge buzz around the world my friend, so go do it for the good of mankind.
Personally, if you're going to buy, I'd go for a professional outfit, not some ebay garage DIY'er - just my opinion.
As no mod has commented or warned me about posting vendor links, the company is called Nu Life and here is where I bought my kit:
www.nulife.de
The guy who runs the company is called Philip, his phone number is available on the site.
The page is in German but they have an english option.
As an X5 owner, I'm bound to say you can't beat German engineering, lol
Originally posted by gatewaywithin
reply to post by Bedlam
Bedlam,I appreciate your professional opinion on the the subject but hardly believe that medical science has even scratched the surface of these particular types of treatment.Furthermore to call Rife and others quacks and snake oil salesmen only indicates your degree of arrogance and ignorance.I really think you have it backwards.The snake oil salesman never left, they simply took over the industry.