David Icke is a liar

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posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 06:01 PM
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Hhott.....



Of course, personally I tend to think that your primary purpose with the OP was to start an argument.


I agree!


I was about to offer commentary to that effect, because no rational, intelligent person would be bothered with Icke.

So, how ironic it is that I am in this thread.....

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not




posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Y2Zgt
How does anyone believe any of his garbage? He stole his idea from the television V. I think he is trying to make a resurgence of christians be getting people to believe in evil.

Wake up!


You are by far the worst dis-info agent ever.

Is the NSA getting this desperate?

They used to at least hire people that were sort of smooth with the delivery.

You come off as a caustic troll.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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How many of you Icke-bashers believe in god , jesus , and angels ?

If you say that you do then , I have every right , by your reasoning , to call you all liars .

How many of you have read any of his books , instead of repeating what you have heard others say about him ?

OP , you called him a liar , tell me , exactly , what you caught him lying about ?

As far as my intelligence , I doubt very many of you come close at all .

I don't spend thirty dollars on very many books unless I find them to be for the most part , credible sources of information . Fool me once , shame on you ., fool me twice , shame on me .

I have spent that thirty dollars several times for books by Icke .

One of you said he was trying to get people re-interested in christianity , or something like that . Well , if you would read some of his work you would see how FAR from the truth you are on this one .

Anti-jewish ? Again , READ his work .

Go ahead and scoff and laugh at him , while you believe in your religious fairytales .

If you are going to call someone a liar , at least tell us what you say he is lying about .



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by downtown436
You are by far the worst dis-info agent ever.

Is the NSA getting this desperate?

They used to at least hire people that were sort of smooth with the delivery.

You come off as a caustic troll.


What is the disinformation? How do you know he is a disinformation agent? Are you such a shallow, closed-minded thinker that you believe there is no such thing as genuine disagreement?

Or maybe you are a disinfo-agent, trying to deflect away from your own disinfo activities.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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I don't David Icke is a "agent" at all. He isn't bright enough.

I just think he is an emotional vampire. He likes to control weak minds and get paid. He sells a bunch of things. He's just trying to make money. I doubt he believes anything he says.

"Everything is an illusion except what I say"



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Take it easy on David Icke guys. I'm not a follower of him. But he's very popular in the conspiracy circles. He seems like a nice person anyway.


So what! David Icke needs to be constantly called on the carpet for ridiculous ideas regarding reptilian and demon b.s. If he wants to report on Bilderberg which may be as he and others claim, that's closer to us being affected by TPTB. But this crap doesn't need airing for it's all a fantasy and has no basis in reality. He may be a nice guy and all that but he spouts b.s.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 07:45 PM
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www.youtube.com...


there you go



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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Everyone believes in something . Please tell me what it is that you believe in .

Do you believe in god ?



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by okbmd
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Everyone believes in something . Please tell me what it is that you believe in .

Do you believe in god ?


Absolutely not. I only believe in myself.

David Icke believes that the moon is space ship according to his latest book.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by okbmd
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Everyone believes in something . Please tell me what it is that you believe in .

Do you believe in god ?


Of course not! You are wrong in stating that everyone believes in something. I don't believe in anything. I either know or I don't. When you believe in something you are automatically creating it in your mind. Belief is the result of mind-conditioning.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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i don't find icke any harder to believe than the bible. that stuff's just as wacko and yet lots of people believe it without question. what's the difference? icke is just newer and writes about stuff only slightly more unusual (though not that much). had his story been in the bible, i'm sure everybody'd be all into it, with no questions.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Hadrian
i don't find icke any harder to believe than the bible. that stuff's just as wacko and yet lots of people believe it without question. what's the difference? icke is just newer and writes about stuff only slightly more unusual (though not that much). had his story been in the bible, i'm sure everybody'd be all into it, with no questions.


No difference that I can see either- a talking snake? come on,


I don't think Icke is a liar, I think he really believes what he says- he comes across as sincere and I like his sense of humour.

I don't suscribe to his reptilian theory but his books are an interesting read.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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WARNING
There is an enormous amount of challenging information in this book. Please do not continue if you are dependent on your present belief system, or if you feel you cannot cope emotionally with what is really happening in this world.
David Icke, The Biggest Secret


Originally posted by Y2Zgt
He likes to control weak minds and get paid. He sells a bunch of things. He's just trying to make money. I doubt he believes anything he says.


Almost everyone is forced to live in a monetary system from the day they are born. Unless you cut off all contact with society and live as a hermit in a cave. Icke makes a living as an author and lecturer doing something he is passionate about. You can't say the same for most people. His work has a positive impact on society unlike television, politics, wars, religions. Icke has been called a liar, plagiarist, disinfo agent, hatemonger, freemason, shape shifter and so on. If your mind goes into melt down mode after reading Icke it's best to stay away from the conspiracy genre and this forum.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by okbmd
Everyone believes in something . Please tell me what it is that you believe in .

Do you believe in god ?


Irrelevant and deflection. Someone else's beliefs on the paranormal, religion or the otherwise unsubstantiated gives no credence to any of Mr. Icke's claims. His claims are right or wrong on their own. The topic is not other members beliefs but Mr. Icke's claims.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Due to the fact that I adamantly disagree with almost everything you say OP.

I'm thinking that you just gave David Icke a lot more credibility just by discrediting him. I'm going to rethink.

You are the first person Ive encountered here thatI am sure is a disinformation agent.

Besides people act like all icke talks about is reptilians that's like 1 10th of it. Most of what he says on other topics is spot on its just people don't want to accept their own personal power and responsibility.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by Hadrian
i don't find icke any harder to believe than the bible. that stuff's just as wacko and yet lots of people believe it without question. what's the difference? icke is just newer and writes about stuff only slightly more unusual (though not that much). had his story been in the bible, i'm sure everybody'd be all into it, with no questions.


The topic here is not the validity of Christianity, but Mr. Icke's claims. The beliefs of Christians, or any other religion, has absolutely no bearing on Mr. Icke's claims. It makes them no more valid simply because someone else may hold an irrational belief about something else.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by ISHAMAGI
I'm thinking that you just gave David Icke a lot more credibility just by discrediting him.


How?


Originally posted by ISHAMAGI
You are the first person Ive encountered here thatI am sure is a disinformation agent.


Why?

[edit on 20-6-2010 by DoomsdayRex]



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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That was one of the most intelligent posts I've read about Icke here on ATS. I see him as the pornographer of the conspiracy theory world.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by cripmeister
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That was one of the most intelligent posts I've read about Icke here on ATS. I see him as the pornographer of the conspiracy theory world.


I like Atlasastros posts
- he is a voice of reason.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by Hadrian
i don't find icke any harder to believe than the bible. that stuff's just as wacko and yet lots of people believe it without question. what's the difference? icke is just newer and writes about stuff only slightly more unusual (though not that much). had his story been in the bible, i'm sure everybody'd be all into it, with no questions.


The topic here is not the validity of Christianity, but Mr. Icke's claims. The beliefs of Christians, or any other religion, has absolutely no bearing on Mr. Icke's claims. It makes them no more valid simply because someone else may hold an irrational belief about something else.


Thanks for defining the topic for me ... but, no thanks. I find it perfectly relevant that in considering Icke's credibility, one compares it to other belief systems that have adherents and crazy things to believe in. Many people discount Icke by referring to the lizard stuff ... which is, of course, wacko. But many, many people have faith in other systems which have just as much wacko stuff, if not more. The point being that it doesn't seem reasonable to discount Icke solely because of the weirdness of his beliefs when more people than not believe in weird stuff.

The topic of the thread is also not indicating to other people what is and what is not the topic of the thread, but that gets done sometimes, huh?





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