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posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 04:54 AM
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I kind of figured what is happening in the mainstream regarding higher knowledge of occult proportions. The fear in the ancient knowledge to be associated with satanism is to keep the populace from reaching their destiny.....

I see there seems to be an opposing force teaching people that enlightment cannot be reached because it is satanic to do so.

When you read how mystery schools and masons keep the knowledge to themselves it means they want to keep it for themselves. While shoving down everyone's throats that its bad to seek higher knowledge. How else would they keep from their secrets coming out. They show music videos of satanic rituals and everything of satanic nature to keep you fearing and not reaching that knowledge as its only what they deem for them. They are using many religions to perpetuate their agenda. Also People who have not sought wisdom behind the messages of their religion.

11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Every movie that you see, every music video that you see shows your true nature in a bad light(shows satanic, devil like things). It keeps you from knowing who you are and the ancient knowledge that dwells within you. It keeps those in the know the knowledge to themselves whilst feeding you evil thoughts. Your fear relates everything to the evil of this world and you give it power. This is how they trick you from reaching your highest potential and realizing we are all one brothers and sisters. Our job is to co create with God.

You are told by psychoanalysers that your wisdom is mere fantasy and by others that wisdom is satan. This shuts you down and very quickly you are back in the world of illusion that you falsely call reality.

Please watch this video:
www.disclose.tv...

Everywhere you seek and turn to is set to shut down who you trully are. If you unveil all the negativity you will see for yourself your true spirit is being shut down at every opportunity for you not to discover it. Open your eyes and awake.

My friends you are being lied to and the world of illusion is clear to see. They show you a world of illusion. But in the face of it all you are a special being created in the image of God.








[edit on 20-6-2010 by Applesandoranges]




posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 05:08 AM
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well, you base all your theories that there is a God and there is a Devil, plus that we are in God's image, well, that doesnt make any sense, more than your primary idea that there is a movement to avoid people from learning ancient teaching

you should put this in religion conspiracy

just to give you an example

if you read the bible as a scientist, you can take that angels are aliens, some visions are hallucinations, flying crosses are actually air vehicles

that said

you can interpret anything you want from these ancient books, thats why it is used by so many people; some used to justify killing others; some to control ; others to feel better ...



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 05:19 AM
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THE SECRET COVENANT

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, ageing accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know
their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it is for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labour for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbours for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labour.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbours.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that colour is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favour.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars. They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by Faiol
well, you base all your theories that there is a God and there is a Devil, plus that we are in God's image, well, that doesnt make any sense, more than your primary idea that there is a movement to avoid people from learning ancient teaching

you should put this in religion conspiracy

just to give you an example

if you read the bible as a scientist, you can take that angels are aliens, some visions are hallucinations, flying crosses are actually air vehicles

that said

you can interpret anything you want from these ancient books, thats why it is used by so many people; some used to justify killing others; some to control ; others to feel better ...



I believe in God creator in regards to the books ringing cedars. But i was trying to convey that the illuminati use the image of the devil to create fear in others seeking their true selves. Shutting people down from discovering who they are. I believe there is darkness but not in christian terms of devil, satanists but of malevolent beings that the illuminati feed off.

Sorry if you misinterpreted what i was saying but seek your own truth in this. It is an awareness i have come to accept in my life from everything that i read. Many of the ancient teachings need wisdom for interpretation. Wisdom as i see it is shut down very quickly by society and science and certain religions. As either fantasy or merely satanic in nature.

If you speak from your heart or wisdom you are deemed either of those things. A false prophet or in need of medication. The inner connectedness to all life and other humans is then destroyed in those aspects.

[edit on 20-6-2010 by Applesandoranges]



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 05:26 AM
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if this group exist, they use religion to control people and not to look for the past teachings, that I would agree

all religious books are preselected by a group of people, so you are not reading something retail, so even if it is true, you dont have the entire experience

ancient aliens is a good series, 5 episodes, talk about theories about our real history, its very good and there would be a lot of mystery teachings that some group of people might not want to get out ...



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 05:33 AM
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Many people dont know the real meaning of occult, it does not mean satanic or dark or evil, it just means hidden knowledge.

from wikipedia

The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden".


It doesnt even have to mean anything spiritual, magical or paranormal related.

It just means hidden, so much of this site is occult but people have been programmed to stay away from anything called "occult" for good reason.

It reminds me of the amount of people who dont know what the word apocalypse means, if they did they would see its a good thing, not to be feared.

[edit on 20-6-2010 by polarwarrior]

[edit on 20-6-2010 by polarwarrior]



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by Faiol
reply to post by Applesandoranges
 


if this group exist, they use religion to control people and not to look for the past teachings, that I would agree

all religious books are preselected by a group of people, so you are not reading something retail, so even if it is true, you dont have the entire experience

ancient aliens is a good series, 5 episodes, talk about theories about our real history, its very good and there would be a lot of mystery teachings that some group of people might not want to get out ...


You can use logic to see that almost everything manmade created into reality is in a way is anti god or anti creation. That you can easily make a connection that whatever runs this world reveals themselves that way. Putting themselves above a creator to be like God's worshipped through things they created instead of what was created by God, trying to redesign nature through genetics, destroy natural resources and food, controlling industries and education, false history, killing human and maiming animals(who are already in tune with what they are, sentient), seperation etc etc...

In other words what they are trying to stop people discovering is the connectedness with God and all living things. To co-create the world as God allowed through all his creation. That all humans need to take their control and power back. We were created in his image with regard to what he wanted from his children. Co-creation!

[edit on 20-6-2010 by Applesandoranges]



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by polarwarrior

Many people dont know the real meaning of occult, it does not mean satanic or dark or evil, it just means hidden knowledge.

from wikipedia

The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden



Hmmm I didn't know that



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by polarwarrior
reply to post by Applesandoranges
 


Many people dont know the real meaning of occult, it does not mean satanic or dark or evil, it just means hidden knowledge.

from wikipedia

The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden


It doesnt even have to mean anything spiritual, magical or paranormal related.

It just means hidden, so much of this site is occult but people have been programmed to stay away from anything called "occult" for good reason.

It reminds me of the amount of people who dont know what the word apocalypse means, if they did they would see its a good thing, not to be feared.

[edit on 20-6-2010 by polarwarrior]


Thankyou for mentioning this. I dont feel evil for having my eyes wide open.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 06:57 AM
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I dont know why people give away their power to external sources for eg. illuminati, channeling etc...

Your wisdom is your connection to God. You need to discern this before you give your power away to external sources who use it for their own agenda for eg, preachers, communication with spirits etc.

The illuminati do not have their eye on us as you have been scared into belief with the evil eye symbolism. They are actually scared of all human power. We actually have our eyes on them. Through our instincts, through our wisdom and what has been robbed from us our true spirit and ancient knowledge through ancestry encoded in our dna.

They want us to fear us but as a fact they are scared of our power in destroying their evil. Evil flees when the human spirit has been lit.

So why do people give their power away to external sources such as aliens, channelling etc when what lies within you is where your true self resides.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Why do people give their power away to external sources when its plain to see that people have their power as a gift from God. Known as wisdom, connection to their spirit.


The illuminati get us afraid with the evil eye symbolism in other words like they are watching us. But in actuality they are afraid of the power of all human spirit. Once we connect on a higher level we ignite the light within us and evil begins to flee. This is what they are afraid of, our power. So they seek to control us and pump fear into us so we cannot see that.

People begin to seek from external sources such as Preachers, Psychics, Channelling, Aliens, Leaders and other places of their own power structures. Not realizing they are giving away their power in order to receive or seek sometthing that is not already within us. The temple God gave each one of us to connect with our inner being and with the whole to create.

Edit: Sorry for the repost i thought i actually lost the reply i posted above and it posted sorry about that.

[edit on 20-6-2010 by Applesandoranges]



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 08:21 AM
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Here is true knowledge of the hidden:

smphillips.8m.com...

In the "Yoga Sutras" of Patanjali (c. 200 BCE), "knowledge of the hidden" has the Sanskrit name of "anima." It refers to knowing directly about what is not perceived by the five senses. It is one of the eight yogic "siddhis," or paranormal powers of the mind.

Here is an example of anima in action:

smphillips.8m.com...

Quarks and superstrings were remote-viewed with anima and described 115 years ago - 69 years before quarks were conceived by physicists Gell-Mann and Zweig and 85 years before superstrings were conceived.

Spend the next few months studying the irrefutable proof of the above statement at the linked website.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 12:21 PM
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The only "satanic" force here is the one keeping people from NOT understanding these things. The mainstream organized religions have been doing this throughout the history.

This is exactly why the so-called secret societies exist. But the craving for something higher is on the rise, constantly. Esoteric and occult knowledge was never meant for everybody 'tho. There are always those who gravitate that way, naturally. I was like that. There was something oh so familiar with it. "I've always known this.."

Maybe "illumination" is realization, but it has to be experienced, and one has to go through certain phases to really grasp the meaning. It all seems pretty distant to me now, and I certainly can't remember every weird thing I went through..

Blavatsky
Bailey
Castaneda
Regardie
Leary & co.
Sagan
Hawking
Hicks
Chomsky
R.A.Wilson
Levi


Although those people might not have anything common on the surface, they are the thinkers that really blew my mind in the late 90's. And there are probably several more that I have forgotten.



posted on Jun, 20 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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If there's someone to blame It's not masons. They are simple yet discreet people. It's not that hard to become a mason. I'm a 22 year old boy and I could be a mason if I wanted. I don't have people (close people) in family that are masons.

The Roman Catholic Church has It's issues with masonry and freedom... does middle ages rings a bell?

It's what Anton Wilson call the conspiracy of stupidity.

The Internet is full of books on magic, occult for free.

When the student is ready, the teacher appears.

He who has ears to hear...



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 11:50 PM
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I would like to say a few things if i may, First of all i have no problem with the occult nor its beliefs, as a matter of fact i am currently reading chapter 10 of book 1 of Agrippa 3 books of occult philosophy. I must say how incredible it really is to read his words, even though every sentence i get a headache and i kinda think he was a madman.
Secondly, the reason why most people think the occult is bad is because(I just think of this as my theory) people are being given false information about what the occult really is all about.

Occult means literally "knowledge of the hidden" Wikipedia on occult

It was hidden for a good reason, because the church has persecuted anyone who has associated themselves with it in any way.

It has to do with ignorance and stupidity,

Ignorance just means that you haven't been taught but stupidity means you not only have not been taught but you refuse to learn, and i think most people are just ignorant most of the time about the occult, whilst a select few within the church are just plain S*U*ID.

No offense to anyone, it might be because of fear that the leaders choose to be this way or it could be another reason.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 01:16 AM
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Nice post, here is a website everyone should look into:

www.joyofsatan.org...

Tons of info on this subject, so I won't regurgitate it. Be sure to check out the meditations.. I highly recommend opening your chakras and begin working with energy, that alone will bring you greater understanding.

The last thing TPTB want is for people to regain esoteric knowledge, regain siddhis, expand their awareness and live peaceful, productive lives.. that would be a real threat to their agenda, but I'm sure you know that.

The dark forces that currently run this planet rule through fear and confusion.. Look at these forums, they are full of fear(plenty of confusion too)! Be aware, the same people who created the church are behind the governments. They have also infiltrated 'secret organizations' like masonry and rosicrucianism, these have been watered down and barely represent the original teachings.. Same goes for Buddhism and nearly every religion.. All methods of control and disinformation.. Don't even get me started on Wicca! Reliable sources are very hard to find, but more and more is coming to light as we enter into higher vibrations.. just be wary(especially with channelings) and know that in most cases, things are indeed backwards.

Hang tight, it's been a wild ride but this age of illusion is almost over.. for some!

[edit on 26-6-2010 by Mayura]



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 02:07 AM
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Even if I don't really care for that satanism site, you're probably right. Although siddhis (to my understanding) are viewed as lower powers, or rather traps or temptations in the east. I understand this very well. The practitioner should advance towards more stable understanding, since using the siddhis can be mentally and spiritually quite dangerous.

I think that all "magic" messes with the normal harmony of thing, and should only be used to regain it.

One of the biggest gifts of magick is the psychic and spiritual insight it offers. Not what you can gain materially. It makes you think what you really need and want. Call it some form of illumination or whatever.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 02:29 AM
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Indeed, everything is out of wack.. balance is something we should all seek. I agree somewhat, messing around with siddhis can lead people astray, especially when the ego is concerned. Insight does come eventually.. I've found it goes hand in hand with advancing.

Hmm.. I feel this is another method to discourage people from tapping into such power,

once again fear is used.. Siddhis.. Dangerous.. just like in the movies.

We are all here to experiment anyway.. It is our right.. Magic used to be commonplace thousands of years ago.. the supernatural is nothing to be fearful of, until recently.

That website has a lot of negative energy associated with it, but the techniques are excellent, I've only had good results.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 02:50 AM
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Hmm.. I feel this is another method to discourage people from tapping into such power


No no no.

The point is not to fall into using these powers and advance further. When people go "Holy #, I can affect this or I can affect that!" and start using the siddihis, they stop evolving. We want to know more, learn more.

This is why I think the path is endless. I don't believe in some kind of "concrete" illumination. The wonders never cease. This reflects in the infinity of the universe itself. Also the siddhis may also deal with lower energies we don't want anything to do with.

So it's better to restrain yourself using lower siddhis, and climb higher.. I think that Svami whatshisname (can't remember) said exactly the same thing, and it was discussed on this board earlier. But it's not that the siddhis are "evil" themselves, it's just that we don't really know how to use the right.



posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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Hmmm.. maybe just a quick stop on our journey? They are interesting no less and have been hidden for so long.. So much exists around us that we cannot sense, I have a desire to explore the unseen forces at work, communicate with them, learn, and eventually create. I think we are all in the process of becoming creator gods.

We've been manipulated for far enough, in ways people aren't even aware of.. It's time for us to choose our paths, even through trial and error. Either way we will end up where we are going...

But it's not all outward.. The path to enlightenment is within. It's available now.. and your right, it's infinite. The most important thing we can do at this time is go within.




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