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Originally posted by Mary Rose
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
The information is there for MKULTRA. Everything else is hearsay and conjecture. In fact Montauk is even less substantiated than most conspiracy theories. It is dependent on another unfounded theory, the Philadelphia Experiment. There is absolutely no hard evidence for any of these things.
I think it is unwise to brush things aside for lack of "hard evidence" in view of the subject matter in question. There are testimonials. I've spent a lot of time listening and viewing these testimonials and find them credible.
I think it is unwise to brush things aside for lack of "hard evidence" in view of the subject matter in question.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
Prove what? Weather modification technology?
That would be a good start, but also how about some proof that your man here is not the paranoid fraud that others here on ATS, myself included have called him out on being.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
On the issue of weather modification you said that we have to do our own research, while this topic has be extensively covered here on ATS from HAARP to cloud seeding this has all be hashed through and found to be wanting in results or worse, outright bunk. It's no secret that the governments of the world would love to have the technology to control the weather, the problem is that they haven't been able to make it work.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
On the issue of your man here, your fellow members have brought up some serious allegations of hucksterism. Now I've studied the alternative press for years, it's a great resource for mainstream journalists to keep an eye on, and this is the first I've heard of this guy. If you can, I'd love to see some proof that he was involved in the program that he says he was, the Montauk Project, or that he isn't just out to make a quick buck off of the hopelessly impressionable in society. The Montauk Project is one of the great black holes in conspiracy theory, anything you want it to be it can be, because there's no evidence that anything actually happened.
If you've got some physical evidence here to share, it'd be quite helpful, otherwise I'd suggest a change in tone where you're not so dismissive of skeptics because there is absolutely no reason why anyone should believe a conspiracy without a shred of proof.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
Socrates would tell you OP, that you are in fact ignorant of your own ignorance, because you have let yourself become confused between belief and knowledge.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Originally posted by Just Wondering
nah, not buying it. Seems like ramblings of a hyper-paranoid individual.
You may want to do some research.
Originally posted by jolois
You are the one who posted this thread, try to help a bit. We're not going to do research for you?!
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Originally posted by autowrench
. . . the ET groups gathering for a big exposure are a great threat to the Illuminati. When the craft are filling our skies, what will TPTB do, except hide in fear. All will be exposed, not just the ET presence. Once all is known, they will have no hiding place, and will be found out. I for one will be very happy to see them, for some of them are my own people from way back. If humanity ever needed a helping hand, this is it.
Originally posted by againuntodust
I was hit by that storm, right outside of Chicago. It came quick, lasted a couple hours and was gone. Nothing special, nothing out of the ordinary except it's sudden onset. Looked like a giant anchor cloud coming to deliver a tornado.
I highly doubt it was created on purpose to disrupt anyone's life. It wasn't even that big of a deal. I was outside walking in it.