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California on 'verge of system failure'

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posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 10:02 AM
i thought the name of your country was
the United states of America,you don't
sound very 'united'.
Then again i'm from Great Britain and
we're certainly not 'great' anymore.
looks like we're all disappearing down
the toilet..

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 10:33 AM
Too many parasites spending your taxes on pet projects and next to no manufacturing so it's like being without a job and trying to feed the world.

You are going all have to wake up, take reponcibilty yourselves and stop paying taxes so the elite can protect themselves using you money to hire thugs they call police.

i'm in the UK and we will all be going down with you but hopefully some good will come out it all but even if its the last thing you do, don't except the Amero or RFIDS implants for you owe it to your children and childrens children to stand up and fight.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Oldtimer2
Truth be told Calif is Federal govt biggest supplier of tax big problem is we have people from the south and other backwood states who come here because they geto a bigger welfare check and more bennies,they are a drain on society,most of meth dealers are from soutern states,so quit blaming native californians,we have been holding the rest of you up for years

Backwood States?? I can guarantee you that my state is doing a whole lot better then your screwed up state. so tell me oldfart, Why are you such a hateful liberal yippie?

P.S. And no you haven't holding the rest of us up. You can't even hold yourself up.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 10:51 AM
I am glad I left LA last year. So many people, terrible roads, real estate triples TX prices, food and energy prices keep rising, and there is a bottled water tax! Buy a 24-pack of bottle water the tax is over a dollar on that alone.

I think the state of Cali could increase their revenue if they stated taxing movies more! Five million dollar tax for a national movie, and a ten million dollar tax for an international movie. More money for the state, and less crappy movies for us.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Darkrunner

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by draevin

This seems to be the new talking point. Been hearing it a lot lately on GOP radio lol. The people who were hippies now run the country, dontcha know? They run the evil corporations and they are the mad leftists too.

I wouldn't go that far, but California is definitely a collection point of hippies and degenerates.

And San Fransisco? I'm not going to shed any tears when that falls into the ocean....

Sort of a more narrow view than I'm accustomed to, but um okay.

Whose fault is it in, say, Michigan?

[edit on 19-6-2010 by ~Lucidity]

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 12:14 PM
reply to post by Robbi

AND ON TOP OF THAT... An ACTOR gets voted in for GOV.. AN ACTOR... Christ almighty... I could NOT believe that he made it in.. NOT A BUISNESS MAN... and people expected what of him..... "to be the "terminator?" So people are then SUPRISED when he fails... REALLY?????????

I rarely respond to stupid statements and I am in NO way defending him as Governor,but, He is a frigging BILLIONAIRE.

He sure did not accumulate that much wealth from his movies.

The state Assembly is the problem with California,not the person setting in the Governors office.

This is the state that elected a man to a 2nd term then promptly recalled him.

I wonder what the bookies have odds on which state will fail first.California or New York.

Is it any wonder that the states with a high perentage of immigrants are also the states with fiscal woes?

Four states have money in their coffers.

Montana,Wyoming,North and South Dakota.

Not to many immigrants there I would assume.

[edit on 19-6-2010 by Oneolddude]

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Incubus

Originally posted by brainwrek
Damn glad to see those socialistic scumbags in CA are about to reap what they sow.

They deserve each and every ounce of pain they are about to experience.

California pays more into the system than it receives. Why does California deserve to suffer when it's been taking care of everyone else for all these years? What a ridiculous thing to say. If the Federal government doesn't bail out California, and Federal government does everything within its power to increase illegal immigration, California should just stop paying into the system. You've been leeching off of us for too long. Time to cut the cord. You have always needed us far more than we needed you. What are we, like the seventh largest economy in the world? Get a grip.

check yourself and your 'welfare' state. CALIFORNIA SUCKS. thats your problem. you always want to take care of everyone. even the illegals.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:04 PM

Originally posted by draevin
reply to post by SevenThunders


Hippies destroyed the country?

What country are you talking about?

Because all the countries being systematically destroyed right now, are being done so by greedy banker types and giant corporations.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked hippies don't support that kind of thing.

They destroyed this country in the 60s dude. With that 'sexual revolution' that introduced casual sex to the masses which in turn decreased the importance of love with sex. which in turn decreased the importance of the family.

You then had that abomination of a feminist movement crop up where every girl is expected to act like a slut to 'empower' her.

You then had violence and sex on TV and movies drastically increase.


when did the country start going down hill? the freakin 60s.

You and the freakin counterculture crap have set the path for destruction.

[edit on 19-6-2010 by empireofpain]

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:05 PM
I think all of California's and Americas problems started with
their Governor Brown.
Forget the rest of the dummies that had no illuminati impact.
They were Illuminati shills if anything.
Brown got the clean air act passed in California and the
rest of America and the world has followed and continued.
Ripping off energy and oil and gas consumption with his
patent on the catalytic converter.
The stage was set for this action with altered fuel and
incomplete carburetor combustion instituted by the cartels.
The suppressed energy devices from before WWII were
never developed and buried by Kennedy's Moon Mission.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:10 PM
When did the divorce rates start increasing? in the 70s...right after the 'sexual revolution'.

Practically anything bad that has come to be socially in the country can be traced back to you freakin hippies and your 'sexual revolution'.

Each and everyone of you should be shot for setting this country on a destructive path.

Most of you were just trying to be rebelious....'stick it to the man'.

well you sure sticked something made us future generations live a life of CRAP for you to get your dang hedonistic jollies off!

God i bet if that damn 'sexual revolution' never happened life would still be as idylic as the 50s.


posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:33 PM

Originally posted by Oldtimer2
one big problem is we have people from the south and other backwood states who come here because they geto a bigger welfare check

Could you please document this for the rest of us? I fail to believe anyone from the South would demean themself so bad as to move to California in the first place. I have yet to know anyone who wants to move to California. We liken California to New York. That's how much we like y'all and we don't need your money.

so quit blaming native californians,we have been holding the rest of you up for years

So what you're telling me here is that native Californians voted against the officials that implemented policies that put the state in a chaotic downward spiral? Don't blame the South for your troubles. We don't need your help nor your money.

[edit on 19/6/10 by Intelearthling]

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:42 PM
The hate and ignorance in this thread is astounding... Maybe I was wrong about ATS.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Tralfamador
The hate and ignorance in this thread is astounding... Maybe I was wrong about ATS.

you were If you came in thinking everybody is all spacey and open minded.
Their is a civil War your either Hard line liberal or hard line conservative...
the people in the middle of the road, are really just liberals... pretending to be "open minded".

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:52 PM
Just goes to show, you can't be a successful welfare state. I have a lot of friends who are from Cali and some who still remain there. I know it isn't everyone in the state to blame, but you can't support that many non tax paying illegals and think you'll pull out without a scratch. Hopefully this serves as a wake up call to the residents of that once great state.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:57 PM
well,,,you got alot of illegals there who flood your hospitals and school systems,,rampet gangs who cant speak english,,the system their is so far left its off the scale..

Maybe Pelosi how ever you spell her name can help you,,??

Theres to many scumbags in Cali who stay scumbags and the political system allowed this.

I hope the good people flee that dung heep and the scum stays there..

For every scum it takes 100 good honest tax payers to support his useless butt.

The system is fricked there,,,just keeps supporting a village of idiots who grow larger day by day...

Its nice to hear stories on how one rises outta poverty but 1000 more crap thugs are added daily...

B4 you get my tax money I want to know how its spent!!!

Your whole state is turning into a latrine!!!!

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 01:58 PM
I'm going to sound crazy, but with something this bad, there really is only one sure fire way. Just don't pay. I'm sorry, but sometimes extremes are needed. And simply say "nah bro" to debt is the only way to work. Hell, they should just not pay what they need to to the federal government and just flat out keep it.

Imagine that? What if California starts a trend of simply not paying the government, and keeping taxes for themselves.

whatever. There's really no other course other than just doing what you have to do and making things right. It will devalue currency, crap up a lot, and screw many people. But in the end, is it not easier to rebuild the value after fixing things, than to just slowly die?

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 02:03 PM
So sorry to hear this. I'm also really sorry to see the in-fighting that is going on.

IMO the problems are the fault of a corrupt, evil gang who have masqueraded as governments across the world. The same will be soon happening in many other countries.

I don't know who to believe, but see for info on what is allegedly really going on. I am working on the theory that effective disinfo always also contains a lot of truth, otherwise it wouldn't work.

I have been in shock the last few days after reading up on this.

Do not be fooled by the 'cover stories' given out by the MSM..., who seem to work for this mafia. IMO in-fighting plays into their game.

Get as informed as you can - because that is what they don't want.

It is really important that all good people stick together and support one another. We are going to need each other like never before.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 02:08 PM
This is why I support the legalization of cannabis. If regulated and taxed, it has the potential to generate billions in tax revenue, create jobs, and could even help siphon income away from the Mexican drug cartels, as more and more cannabis would be grown domestically.

Every rational argument I have ever heard against the legalization of cannabis is also equally applicable to cigarettes and alcohol in my opinion, and they are both legal, regulated, and taxed despite some serious and life threatening health effects. Why? Because they create tax revenue, and because adults are expected/trusted to take responsibility for their own wellbeing. There is no good reason - in my personal opinion - why the same approach cannot be taken in the case of cannabis.

Hopefully in November we will pass that measure.

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 02:08 PM
i agree hippies are a major cause for the situation of this country, not neccisarily the first gen hippies but each subsequent hippy who showed up for the "party"is sure to blame.
And what about hollywood? isnt that in cali? they make billions of $$ a year. they need to be taxed the hell out of em,(without raising movie ticket prices) and the beverly hill brats need a reality check big time. how can some of the richest part of the country be in one of the financially worst states? i got it lets blame immigrants..bullspit.everyone says they take our jobs. bullspit. im a cook and i never see too many non-hispanic applicants to positions,and the ones that do usually suck or feel like they deserve better,and in my restaurant throughout the years there have been at least 15-20 immigrants who worked there, who got paid and taxed via thier paychecks and never filed their taxes which they were owed. thats a couple than a couple hunderd $$ apeice times 15-20 times god only knows how many other places that occurs. quit blaming immigrants..and since when did immigrants,like our forefathers, decide, no more imigrants? sorry for poor grammatical skills, im trying tho. thanks

posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 02:11 PM
Maybe Cailf should seek aid from Mexico. Many of their "problems" are being blamed on illegal aliens anyhow. So, why not seek aid from Mexico. Maybe they could seek to become a part of Mexico.

Regardless, whatever Cailf decides to do to survive, not one cent should be given them from the broken treasury of the US or other states. Calif's mess is and sould remain their own to deal with.

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