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've just discovered this fantastic 1990 study from The Lancet that investigated near death experiences reported by patients. However, it did something quite different from most other studies - it actually checked to see whether the patients were actually near death or not - and many of them weren't.
The study looked at the experiences of 58 people who believed they were about to die during a medical procedure and had subsequently reported a 'near death experience' - often the classic 'light at the end of the tunnel' experience, the feeling of the consciousness had left the body like an outside observer, enhanced clarity of thought and the flashback of life's memories.
The researchers then looked through the medical records of each person to see whether they had really been 'near death'. Of the 58 in the study, 30 patients were never in danger of dying, despite what they thought at the time. - Mind Hacks
Originally posted by facedo
Remember: there is no water in any other part of the universe.
Earth is the only planet with life in this vast universe.
GIVE ME A BREAK !!!
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by Now_Then
He's saying that previously established beliefs do change over time.
I think the general consensus is that near-death-experiences (NDEs) are a specific type of out-of-body-experience (OBEs). The general phenomenon is the OBE, and you don't need to be near death to experience one. I'm guessing the believers camp would argue that the extreme anguish of "thinking" you were about to die could probably initiate an OBE.
Originally posted by Now_Then
Anyway regarding NDE's, I gotta say I haven't noticed all that many grand descriptions of personal NDE's - maybe I just missed them, the topic is discussed, but mostly in a 3rd party sense.
From a medical point of view there is growing evidence that NDE's are a real phenomena - all be it the massive cascade of electo/chemical activity in the death throws of a dying mind - is there more to that? No idea.
Originally posted by Astyanax
You're right, there haven't been that many elaborate testimonies. However, I've read dozens of posts from different members reporting that they'd had OBEs. The claim is usually made by someone trying to prove the existence of life after death, 'other worlds' of the transcendental or transdimensional kind, etc.
In fact, the most remarkable thing about it was that it happened spontaneously WHEN I THOUGHT I was dying. Later, the physicians and specialists determined that I actually WASN'T near death.
My NDE was of being in an infinitely cold and infinitely dark place. I was calm, very lucid, aware that my heart had stopped, and able to think.
Originally posted by Astyanax
I believe it is safe to say that no satisfactory evidence of disembodied consciousness will ever be found.
I need a well thought out answer please.
I don't believe in life after death