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Originally posted by chise61
reply to post by LDragonFire
I can't give you an answer to that because I don't know enough about it. But as soon as I have the time I'll look at the information that's out there. Since it seems to be something that upsets you, maybe you should try to find the answer to that question.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
Now I have admitted the federal government does not enforce its own laws, and I have already stated if Arizona can prove damages it should sue!! However this new Arizona law seems to be racial profiling to me.....
Originally posted by LDragonFire
The point is they [Canadians] still can come upto the border and receive a permit but Mexicans can't.......These permits can only be renewed a limited number of times this is the issue your friend is facing....
SO Why can't Mexicans do this????????????????????????
Introduction to TN Status
The Peace Bridge---A Main Source of TN NAFTA Activity
Peace Bridge: Focus of TN activity.
The availability of TN (Trade NAFTA) status is the most dramatic immigration benefit of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
The new provisions of NAFTA pertain to Canadian and Mexican citizen temporary visitors, treaty traders, investors, temporary workers, and professionals.
The immigration-related provisions of NAFTA are very similar to those expressed in the prior United States-Canada Free Trade Agreement (FTA/CFTA), which went into force on January 1, 1989. All FTA provisions were suspended when the NAFTA went into force. The NAFTA provisions covered the same non-immigrant classifications as the old FTA: B-1, E, L-1 , and Professionals. Under the old FTA, the Free Trade Professional designation was known as TC (Trade Canada), while currently the designation is TN (Trade NAFTA Professional).
This page is only about the TN for Canadians .
Another advantage of TN-l status is that it can he obtained quickly. The INS grants these visas right at the border, so there is no waiting period for approval and no petition to file in advance. In contrast, permanent resident applicants can wait years for their status, and waits for H-lB status can take six months or more.
A little-known bonus is also attached to TN status. Under TN Status, household help ("personal and domestic servants") can enter the United States as tourists and can work for the applicant. No visa is required, just a simple employment authorization card. To qualify, the person must be either:
1. Someone who worked for you in Canada at least one year prior to the date you entered the United States, or
2. Someone who worked for you for any period of time and you can show you regularly employed any personal or domestic help over a period of several years immediately prior to coming to the United States, and the employee you want to bring with you has at least one year's experience in the field.
Originally posted by mattifikation
What new law? You have passed over the fact that this law is NOT a new law so many times now. The only thing new about it is that it is now a STATE law as well as a FEDERAL law.
Quote for us now the wording in this law which allows for racial profiling. Don't just say it does it, give us some quotes from the law that have formed your opinion that is racist.
You oppose this law on just one issue, the issue of racism. Yet you have made multiple racist comments yourself (Telling Americans to give control of the country to your race, and saying that you are waiting for the country to be "Sioux'd") and yet you have not been able to demonstrate how this law is racist. Nor have you been able to demonstrate any real understanding of this law or what it does. How, then, do you come to the wild and inaccurate conclusions that you keep parroting before us?
Originally posted by groingrinder
reply to post by mattifikation
What the administration is hoping for here is that the Arizona law will be found unconstitutional. Then the Federal law will have to be found unconstitutional as well. Then the Democrats get millions upon millions of illegals who will vote for them for the rest of their lives. Remember that I said it first.
Originally posted by LDragonFire
You Doc may not support this issue based on race, but truthfully its so much easier to be a racist and I feel the GOP and the Right Conservative movement is racist at its core, they are anti Illegal immigration [Mexican] anti Gay and this issue is just a way to divide us further...
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Well, my personal feelings about Mexican illegal aliens, in particular, are pretty goddamned biased. See, I'm originally from southeast Texas, and I observed racism as a little boy (a very smart little boy) growing up in the midst of the Civil Rights movement, which is back when racism meant something.
Well, my personal feelings about Mexican illegal aliens, in particular, are pretty goddamned biased. See, I'm originally from southeast Texas, and I observed racism as a little boy (a very smart little boy) growing up in the midst of the Civil Rights movement, which is back when racism meant something.
It meant you could get your ass killed for the color of your skin. Not like today, where we play semantic games to avoid uttering "certain words" in politically-correct conversation.
Back in the day, racism was a death warrant. Today, it's a talking point.
My point is, if you're in your twenties or thirties and you're a crusader against racism, you don't know what racism IS.
You can Google it up and look at all the scary pictures of lynchings and church burnings and so forth, but I can guarantee you that seeing those images and hearing those recordings don't automatically make you knowledgeable of that down-homeracism that us elders recall.
Yeah. There is VALUE in the observations of the elders.
My family moved to Houston in the 1970s, when there was still a visible KKK presence, not only in the community, but actually on the police force. And the Houston city police were some mean motherfekkers — like, homicidal, okay? Make no mistake, they were a-killin' people.
So, yeah, I matured in a city that was mired in REAL racism. By comparison, the racism of today is so mild, it's like a reality show.
BTW, my oldest sister was kidnapped and raped by a Mexican illegal alien back in the 1960s, so there's a familial aspect to my bias.
WHERE DO I COME DOWN on the illegal alien issue? I want the border secure, I want these 20 million fekking Mexican illegal aliens deported, and I don't want their asses back on my doorstep. No, you cannot convince me that they are vital to our economy. No, you cannot convince me that they are not draining our economy, harming the job market, and fekking things up royally all across the ISA.
These aren't exactly Einsteins sneaking across the border. Hell no, they're high-school dropouts, they're not top-tier. They're coming here to avail themselves of all the FREE SHlT and goodie programs in America. All ya have to do is sneak in, knock up a chick and bingo — anchor baby. Send me the goodies!
Do I sound racist? No, I sound like somebody who is wondering WTF is WRONG with our federal government, and why can't they secure the border?
I know what racism is, but what's going on in Arizona isn't racism. It's SECURITY.
...
B. The alien must meet the specific requirements,
education and/or experience, etc. listed in the annex
related to that particular profession. While the list
originally included professional activities included under
the former H-1 standards as professions, it has been
extended to include additional professions. However, with
rare exception each profession requires a baccalaureate
degree as an entry-level requirement. If a baccalaureate
is indeed required, experience cannot be substituted for
that degree. In some professions, alternative criteria to
a bachelor''s degree is listed, and sometimes experience
and criteria are required in addition to the degree. The
list is occasionally expanded upon agreement of all NAFTA
parties.
9 FAM 41.59 N3.2 Employment required
The alien must engage in prearranged business activity for
a U.S. or foreign employer. But self-employment is not an
option under the category. If the alien seeks self-
employment, the alien should pursue that business under
the Treaty Trader or Investor Visa classification, or
another visa category. Evidence of engagement by a U.S.
employer(s) or entity(ies) to engage in prearranged
business activities at a professional level is necessary
to accord "TN" classification.
...
N4.3 Required documentation:
Both nationalities will have to submit the following
documentation:
(1) proof of citizenship; (note 6)
(2) evidence of an offer of employment by submission of
employment letter in one of the professional occupations
which requires the education and/or experience listed in
appendix 1603.d.1 of NAFTA chapter 16 (note 7)
(3) evidence that the applicant meets the minimum education
and/or work experience requirements set forth in appendix
1603.d.1];
Originally posted by chise61
The law has nothing to do with racism, or racial profiling. Have you read it ? If you've read it and see anything in there that condones racial profiling, please show me.
You must not be aware of how the Mexicans came to be in the first place. As far as their right to be here, they lost a war and sold their land and any rights to it long ago, end of story.