Disturbing Genital Mutilation at Cornell University

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posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:33 PM
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This is my first ATS thread (mods please feel free to move if I posted in the wrong section).

Dr. Dix P. Poppas of Cornell University has been shortening the clitorises of children under 10 years of age and following up with vibrator examinations. Yes, Dr. Dix has been informing parents that the size of their daughter's clitorises are such a risk to their safety that they must be shortened. Here's a link to the story

rawstory.com...

What kind of parent would subject their underage daughters to the following type of treatment?

"Here more specifically is, apparently, what is happening: At annual visits after the surgery, while a parent watches, Poppas touches the daughter’s surgically shortened clitoris with a cotton-tip applicator and/or with a “vibratory device,” and the girl is asked to report to Poppas how strongly she feels him touching her clitoris. Using the vibrator, he also touches her on her inner thigh, her labia minora, and the introitus of her vagina, asking her to report, on a scale of 0 (no sensation) to 5 (maximum), how strongly she feels the touch. Yang, Felsen, and Poppas also report a “capillary perfusion testing,” which means a physician or nurse pushes a finger nail on the girl’s clitoris to see if the blood goes away and comes back, a sign of healthy tissue. Poppas has indicated in this article and elsewhere that ideally he seeks to conduct annual exams with these girls. He intends to chart the development of their sexual sensation over time."

I'm rarely shocked these days, but this is disturbing on so many levels.

What say you, ATS?

[edit on 17-6-2010 by Hazystars]




posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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sounds like a cover up for a Doctor to get his jollys off. THIS IS SICK!!!!



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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Absolutely outrageous.... He is like a modern day Josef Mengele. What other reason for this pedophile act than his own, sick, sexual fascination? What parents would actually allow this kind of horrendous torture, and moreso how the hell is this legal??

The world wasn't bad enough, so we needed to bring back Nazi-esque doctors.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by pjslug
Absolutely outrageous.... He is like a modern day Josef Mengele. What other reason for this pedophile act than his own, sick, sexual fascination? What parents would actually allow this kind of horrendous torture, and moreso how the hell is this legal??

The world wasn't bad enough, so we needed to bring back Nazi-esque doctors.


Mengele came into my mind as well when I read this story.

Many people think that type of activity is limited to third world countries, but it's happening here in the good ol' USA. There isn't a viable medical reason for this procedure and I can't believe some parents are subjecting their kids to this.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:59 PM
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This is very sick. It just sounds like the guy is trying to molest kids. Why would the parents go along with it?



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Skid Mark
This is very sick. It just sounds like the guy is trying to molest kids. Why would the parents go along with it?


Exactly! If the same activity was going on outside of a medical setting, it was be outright torture and molestation.

Why are people so trusting of those in lab coats?



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:01 PM
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uuuuhhhhhh....ummmmm...eeerrrrr...

I'm at a flippin' loss for words here



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:03 PM
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And what about this pervert's employers?? They continue to let him and his team work there and perform these virtual tribal rituals?



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:06 PM
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Next thing you know, he'll be removing boys penises because the size could be dangerous for the boys health...

Parents who let a doc do something like that are as sick as the doc himself.

Incredible to think it is tax payers money that is used for that.

And he'll make follow ups?!? Pedophiles will rejoice; they can now have subventions to mutilate and abuse little girls, with the complicity of the medical establishment as well as that of the parents... sickening...



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:07 PM
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WHAT IS THE REASONING FOR THIS? HOW DID THEY CONVINCE THESE PARENTS????



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:08 PM
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I'm no doctor but can anybody with any medical background even confirm that such things are beneficial or even necessary to the child in question?



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by pjslug
And what about this pervert's employers?? They continue to let him and his team work there and perform these virtual tribal rituals?


Here's a link to the doc's most recent report (2007) of his findings which I imagine made the rounds at Cornell:

www.thestranger.com...

I'm starting to research how this was funded and by whom. Will post any information I come across.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Aresh Troxit
Next thing you know, he'll be removing boys penises because the size could be dangerous for the boys health...

Parents who let a doc do something like that are as sick as the doc himself.

Incredible to think it is tax payers money that is used for that.

And he'll make follow ups?!? Pedophiles will rejoice; they can now have subventions to mutilate and abuse little girls, with the complicity of the medical establishment as well as that of the parents... sickening...


And his follow up included sex toys!!! It is just so sick that I cannot fully comment without violating the T&C of this site.

What I'd like to know is how the parents or doctor figured out their daughters, some as young as 6 years old, had vaginal sensitivity issues to begin with.

Edited for fat fingers


[edit on 17-6-2010 by Hazystars]

[edit on 17-6-2010 by Hazystars]



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Hazystars

Originally posted by pjslug
And what about this pervert's employers?? They continue to let him and his team work there and perform these virtual tribal rituals?


Here's a link to the doc's most recent report (2007) of his findings which I imagine made the rounds at Cornell:

www.thestranger.com...

I'm starting to research how this was funded and by whom. Will post any information I come across.


I recommend people read the paper provided in the link. Maybe it's not as crazy as it definitely does appear at first. "Gender ambiguity".


[edit on 17-6-2010 by buddhasystem]



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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The operation sounds exactly like male circumcision, although I assume the girls are put under anasthetic, whereas the boys are mutilated outright. It's institutionalized child abuse. This sort of thing is not isolated nor is it new. Of course there is always a medical reason dredged up from the woodwork to justify it, whether it be slightly reduced risk of HIV or chance of later infection.

The fact that so many Americans agree with those justifications horrifies me. You don't just go HACKING OFF THE FLESH of children because at some point in the distant future, they "might" be at an increased risk for some such ailment.

Excision is a last resort, when all other methods of treatment have failed. This is assuming there is a medical condition in the first place. The act of excising flesh as a means of prevention is beyond absurd. It's beyond insane.


The second half about the follow-up examinations is tame in comparison with the act of mutilation, but certainly is creepy and probably illegal.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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The condition he seems to be addressing is called Congenital adrenal hyperplasia. And if the condition is as bad as the picture accompanying this Wikipedia article, I can understand its necessity.

The issue was a way to surgically correct the condition without rendering the sufferer insensitive to stimulation, thereby avoiding circumcising them. The idea was to save the nerve endings while removing the excess tissue.

I don't know how prevalent this mutation is. I would assume this doctor is some kind of specialist in his field. This is sad. But I am inclined to think this may not be as horrific as those who infer pedophilia from the description seem to be inclined to believe.

en.wikipedia.org...

I suppose each will have to draw their own conclusions.

Edit to add: This condition is real, and it manifests itself in unfortunate ways for those who are untreated. It is related to genetics and blood-chemistry, and genital ambiguity is one of the lesser afflictions that accompany it. If your child had deformed genitalia, it would be up to you to trust a doctor to do something about it. Apparently these people, who attend the child during the procedure, are confident that it is not a degenerate person playing with their child's genitalia. I think some of us need to get our minds out of the gutter...

[edit on 17-6-2010 by Maxmars]



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:24 PM
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The report mentioned "genital ambiguity" which I think it more along the lines of being a hermaphrodite as opposed to "gender ambiguity" where a girl would want to be a boy or vice versa.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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And he can keep his nasty ars away from my daughter fa sho!!!!!!!!!
The experiment seems a little much for an underage child to endure I think. He may be speeding up there sexual maturity also. SORRY but H3LL naw sorry mods but this is some true freaky stuff.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by Son of Will
The operation sounds exactly like male circumcision, although I assume the girls are put under anasthetic, whereas the boys are mutilated outright. It's institutionalized child abuse. This sort of thing is not isolated nor is it new. Of course there is always a medical reason dredged up from the woodwork to justify it, whether it be slightly reduced risk of HIV or chance of later infection.

The fact that so many Americans agree with those justifications horrifies me. You don't just go HACKING OFF THE FLESH of children because at some point in the distant future, they "might" be at an increased risk for some such ailment.

Excision is a last resort, when all other methods of treatment have failed. This is assuming there is a medical condition in the first place. The act of excising flesh as a means of prevention is beyond absurd. It's beyond insane.


The second half about the follow-up examinations is tame in comparison with the act of mutilation, but certainly is creepy and probably illegal.


I’m not a proponent of circumcision to begin with, but the type of work Dr. Poppas is doing is more akin to castration than mere removal of foreskin.

How many circumcised males need follow up visits where sex toys are involved?



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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Ummm...when I first started to read this, I thought it was a joke, (Dr Dix?), but as i read on I started to realize this was real...I'm absolutely disgusted! What are the Freaking parents thinking?





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