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Originally posted by Lady_Tuatha
Do they not let groups of volunteers walk the beachs and help clean up?
If they dont then I really dont understand why not,
When the Scottish oil spill happened ( it was a tanker not a rig) volunteers from all over the place started walking the beaches in groups collecting endangered wildlife and cleaning the beachs.
whats the problem? you would think they would be crying out for people to help in any small way they can.
Originally posted by switching yard
Private security companies have zero jurisdiction unless they are duly deputized by county and I doubt that they have been.
Originally posted by TurboDC4
If the security happens to be armed, that actually works in your favor... Carrying a weapon is a huge legal liability, and if they're smart about it, they will be more timid than unarmed security guards. They cannot use, or threaten the use of, lethal force (or usually any force for that matter) unless you are posing an immediate physical threat to someone, or at least breaking certain laws. It depends on the laws of the state in question, but in many places, the unjustified drawing of a weapon, or even placing a hand on it, can very easily get a person busted for felony menacing with a deadly weapon. And to add onto that, depending on the circumstances and state laws, if someone is doing that to you, you may be justified to defend yourself with the same amount of force.
But acting like an idiot and shoving cameras in people's faces is just really lame and stupid. Know your rights and stand up for them, but don't be a pretentious jackass about it; being a nuisance only serves to make the rest of us look bad, and it potentially gives authorities a reason to create restrictions.
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by ANNED
All you need to get a basic job with wackennuts is a guard card.(in some states with out guard card requirements all you need in a warm body)
Then over time and with training you can work strike breaker.
If you have the right security clearances you might go into there government contract div.(ex military)
And if you have a top secret clearance with the right endorsements you might even get a job at area 51. (ex military with top secret commo ect)
The jokers right off street is just going to fallow the instruction his boss gave him.
This grade of employee is not very smart and picked just because they are a warm body.
Likely anyone with a fire department or EMT ID could flash there ID and walk right by these jokers by telling them they were of official business
the worse these people would do is call there supervisor.
[edit on 17-6-2010 by ANNED]
Not so. Everyone who works strike details is a CPO, former combat arms military or law enforcement. "Warm bodies" are cannon fodder, which is the type of people I replaced on strike details, after the strikers pulped 'em and put 'em in the hospital. They found us a little bit tougher to pulp. Never got it done, as a matter of fact, although they TRIED to intimidate us, it backfired on 'em, and they never, ever jumped.
WSI is the government contracts division. Armor Group pulls most of the overseas government contracts.
ALL security contractors follow the instructions of their boss. That's what they're hired to do, and fresh off the street guards aren't going to be working contracts like this. CPOs only, and they're selected from their home offices based on prior performance there.
"Warm bodies" catch duty as doorknob rattlers, and that's about it. Wackenhut has LOTS of jobs requiring a security clearance, and you don't have to be ex-military to get one, you just have to need it for the job, and pass the background check. If you already have one, that's a big plus.
Originally posted by Habit4ming
I cannot yet start a new thread; I don't have enough posts. This thread seemed like the most appropriate still-active thread in which to post this info, so here goes:
For those that were following RAP (Restore America Plan), a major update occurred today. RAP filed a "Lis Pendens" in the Hague Court against the British Crown for 10 Quad trillion (quadrillion) dollars DUE TO THE OIL LEAK, HARMFUL DISPERSANTS, etc and called it an act of war!! (on June 14th)
Here's the link (and there are 3 links there--the document, the proof of fax transmission and Reps/Senators/news media contacts):
Originally posted by ANNED
I am going by experience i had around wackennuts that i had when i worked as a federal security officer years ago on a navy research base.
As for the strike crew they most of the time do start with the warm body type(cop want to be)
Only when the strikers wise up and give wackennuts a hard time do they bring in the professional types. why waste money on the pros if you don't need to.
ALL security contractors follow the instructions of their boss.
I found that they(warm body type cop want to be) even follow the instructions when they are illegal.
This is where we had problems with them.
Use of force by these guard type get them in trouble every time.
In most states a guard can not use physical force to stop someone until that person has used physical force against them.
In short the guard must be attacked first.
In many cases you can harass a guard all day and they can not touch you till you have assaulted them.
With these wackennuts on a public beach I would keep trying to cross there line and backing off till they crossed the line because they got pi**ed.
I would also have someone filming in the background to prove there illegal assault on me.
Originally posted by jbmitch
what should really upset everyone here who cares is the fact that alll this civilian contract security people are making anywhere from $250 to $500 dollars a day plus expenses and guess who is footing that bill your Federal Tax dollars. So we are paying people large sums of money from our already bankrupt governement fund to keep cititzens off their beaches (public access). How did the cart get so far ahead of the horse?