Military Housing Gun Ban

I noticed a sign on one of the new military housing projects in my town. It said weapons were banned there. I was amazed that here in Texas, a gun loving state, that the world's most powerful army cannot defend their home with a gun. Our soldiers have killed more people than Hitler's stormtroopers, just in the last decade, and they can't have a gun at home. The most educated and well equipped fighting force ever assembled on earth is prevented from having even a paintball or airsoft gun at home. It is absurd. One day a soldier can kill hundreds of children and the next he can be violated in his own home by criminals because the federal goverment thinks he is not responsible enough to have a gun at home. Am I astounded, is anybody else?
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They wouldnt want anyone to stop the next Hasan.

Last year the military base commander tried to do this and within days he changed his mind and apologized. I expect the same will soon happen there. NRA just needs to get wind of it.

This is nothing new... 10 years ago when I was in the US Army, you were not allowed to keep guns at your on base housing. They were required to be kept the armory.

nothing strange there ... i thought it was US military policy that if you werent an MP you didnt carry a firearm on base

I was ignorant of this regulation. It seems to be so contradictory to the morals of our armed forces. I think it puts more soldiers in harm's way. It reminds me of soldiers being diciplined in Vietnam for putting profanity on bombs destined to kill children. Who want to join up and be cannon fodder? I guess poverty will force enlistment.

Originally posted by earthdude
I was ignorant of this regulation. It seems to be so contradictory to the morals of our armed forces. I think it puts more soldiers in harm's way. It reminds me of soldiers being diciplined in Vietnam for putting profanity on bombs destined to kill children. Who want to join up and be cannon fodder? I guess poverty will force enlistment.

Way to attempt to divert the topic at hand...

You should thank the "cannon fodder", as you so intelligently put it, for helping to make it possible for you to call us "cannon fodder".

I lived on numerous bases. I know you were allowed to keep guns in base housing on every base I was at. Obviously, its a Base Commander call and not military wide

[edit on June 17th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
I lived on numerous bases. I know you were allowed to keep guns in base housing on every base I was at. Obviously, its a Base Commander call and not military wide

[edit on June 17th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

That is a possibility...
I never bothered to look into it as I am not a gun owner.

Well,it is a good idea.

I am not sure if it is a military wide policy or specific branch or local commander policy but it is a policy where I am.

Does anyone here have any idea how many spouses have been murdered by military members in the last 20 years?

Hundreds if not thousands.

There were 18,000 cases of domestic violence in the military in 1991 alone.

The same number in 2002.

It would probably be more if guns were allowed in base housing.

Originally posted by Oneolddude

It would probably be more if guns were allowed in base housing.

Too much legislation written and too much liberty lost because of "probably."

Originally posted by Oneolddude
Well,it is a good idea.

I am not sure if it is a military wide policy or specific branch or local commander policy but it is a policy where I am.

Does anyone here have any idea how many spouses have been murdered by military members in the last 20 years?

Hundreds if not thousands.

There were 18,000 cases of domestic violence in the military in 1991 alone.

The same number in 2002.

It would probably be more if guns were allowed in base housing.

Can you please provide links to back up those statistics. Including how many of the domestic violence cases involved guns.

Thanks!

[edit on June 17th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

Originally posted by Stupe

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
I lived on numerous bases. I know you were allowed to keep guns in base housing on every base I was at. Obviously, its a Base Commander call and not military wide

[edit on June 17th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

That is a possibility...
I never bothered to look into it as I am not a gun owner.

I know you have to have them registered - and you can not have them in billeting or dorms.

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No disrespect intended. It just concerns me that our liberties are being taken away and our motives for war are no longer evident. It seems like a slap in the face to those who want to protect our country. The more fighting that happens the less the fighters are respected. My new bumper sticker will read: SUPPORT WHAT?

Originally posted by earthdude
I was ignorant of this regulation.

Yep, you were ignorant of the regulation, but it didn't seem to stop you from spouting BS about the Soldiers.

Killed more people than Hitlers Stormtroopers? Care to back that up with a few sources, or just flapping your gums?

Originally posted by earthdude
It reminds me of soldiers being diciplined in Vietnam for putting profanity on bombs destined to kill children.

Yeah, because all the Vietnam Vets did just that, went over there to kill children. Just like Vets of OIF/OEF only kill civilians.

Originally posted by earthdude
Who want to join up and be cannon fodder?

People don't join to be cannon fodder. They join for reasons you'll never understand.

And to get back on topic, I don't agree with this decision, either.

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And while you're getting those sources for Green Eyed Leo, how about comparing them to domestic violence cases in the civilian world? You know, a little of the "side by side"?

And let me fill you in on a little fact. If you get busted on a DV complaint, you aren't allowed to carry a weapon. Can't carry a weapon, you don't get to reenlist.

Sorry I exaggerated the kills, Nazis killed more. They had a new world order thing they were fighting for. They were all behind it. They were informed as to why they were fighting. I wonder if they could have guns at home. I also wonder if Roman soldiers were allowed to have weapons at home or other places. It seems you can gauge a county's intent by how they treat their soldiers. I assume this law was made to stop family members from killing each other. I say arm them all and let God sort 'em out.