posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 07:58 PM
I love how people on ATS say that the Soldiers are brainwashed when they join the service.
This article sounds like a couple of guys who got out and were guilt-tripped by the people around them.
I know several guys from my old unit who got out and kept hearing "Don't you feel bad? Don't you feel bad? Do you feel guilty?" until they finally
broke and started feeling guilty. I guess for some, depending on the company you keep in civilian life, it's like getting brainwashed in a POW
I also emailed a friend of mine, a former Marine who was a Corporal wounded in the first phase of OIF and is now in a wheel chair, about all this,
about Troops being "guilted" into admitting something along these lines.
This is his response. Sorry for it being a bit long:
Yeah, it happens. I myself went through a short period in my life, 3 years after I was wounded in Iraq, where I began to really question if Iraq was
worth it or not, constantly going back and forth on the issue. However, it was NEVER because of my own injuries though. I didn't get wounded and
start spouting off that Bush paralyzed me or some BS.
It was in the middle of a 1 year and 2 month stay at the VA Hospital that I began to question s**t. I got a phone call that 2 of my good friends had
been blown to s**t in Ramadi and it tore me up, especially not being able to be over there and do something about it and kill some f***ers. With that,
and constantly watching CNN and Fox News (the only 2 cable news channels that the Houston VA had) each and every day, seeing the casualty numbers get
higher and higher on our side, I began to get pretty pissed off about it.
The way I saw it, we were fighting and dying for the f**king Iraqi people, and they didn't seem to give a flying f**k about our sacrifices, and on
top of that a large portion of the wanted us to leave (up until they got fed up with getting blown up on their way to the mosque for several
I was not in a very good place then, with being at the VA lying in a bed 24/7, the phone call of my buddies getting killed and later hearing the
gruesome details from fellow Marines, phone calls telling me about friends being wounded, some very severely and some minor wounds where the guys made
it back to the unit after a few weeks of healing, constantly seeing all of the f**king negativity and death and chaos on the TV mounted on the ceiling
in front of my bed... and to top it off, spending THAT much time very isolated in a VA hospital isn't exactly a positive experience, it's full of
negativity, and you really have to try hard to stay positive, which was hard to do while on bed rest for the first 7-8 months, but once I started
rehabbing and socializing when I could finally get out of bed once my wounds healed, things got a LOT better.
It took me a good 6+ months after I got out of the hospital to get back "on-board" with everything, I guess you could say. I just needed to get out
of that environment and back to reality.
I remember at one point while in the hospital going to the Iraq Vets Against the War website, just to check it out and see if they were feeling like I
was... I was enraged when I started reading their reasons for being against the war, AND against the military in general. They cited the Iraqi deaths
more than anything, attacked our own govt and made us and our country out to be horrible people with no morals. They had videos of their rallies where
dudes would apologize for killing "lot's of civilians" and would cry and s**t about it. They even cited statistics to try and warn females from
joining the military because they'd most likely be raped by their male counterparts! The IVAW f**kers literally try and make our military out to be
the brutal raping and pillaging Japanese military of WWII or some s**t! These guys were/are gutless pieces of s**t!! They didn't even think we
should've gone to Afghanistan either, which I personally feel you have to be insane to believe that.
Anyhoo, my point with this comment was that I think a lot of guys (not all, but some) at some point have a little doubt on the Iraq War and go back
and forth on the issue, like I did at one time, whenever they think about their dead and severely wounded brothers-in-arms. I personally don't feel
there's anything wrong with that. Not saying that it's completely normal with everyone, but it does happen. That's why I think it's important to
reiterate to your fellow warriors of everything that's been accomplished and how much better things are in Iraq, especially once they are out of the
military and away from that supportive and very patriotic environment.
As for the two Soldiers who wrote this letter above, they have certainly earned the right to say every single thing they wrote, which is a lot more I
can say for those extreme left-wing radical groups like the Code Pink f**ktards. All of them use their freedom of speech more than the majority of
Americans, though they've done nothing to earn it, it was given to them by the spilt blood and sacrifices of men and women whom are much better
people and Americans than they will ever and can ever be.
To the members of Code Pink I say this: You're welcome, bitches. And although I hate everything that spews like vomit out of your mouths, if given
the choice to do it all over again I'd still sacrifice my body for you and the rest of my fellow Americans, regardless of their twisted and f**ked up
far Left/Right Wing views, without even once stopping to question or think about it, because that's just what we in the US Military do, and that's
how we #ing roll.
Semper Fi, P.
(Mods, I edited some of the more "colorful" language.)