Wikileaks Soldier Reveals Orders for "360 Rotational Fire" Against Civilians in Iraq

Wikileaks Soldier Reveals Orders for "360 Rotational Fire" Against Civilians in Iraq

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Ethan McCord, one of the soldiers seen in the now-famous Wikileaks video in which two American Apache helicopters fire upon a relaxed, unhurried gaggle of men in Baghdad, has stated in an interview with World Socialist Website that he witnessed numerous times the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians in Iraq after IED attacks. McCord is on of the soldiers seen helping two wounded children after the attack. He has stepped forward with open opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and wri

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The deliberate killing of civilians is a war crime (Nanking 1937, Hankow 1938, German Invasion of Poland 1939.) McCord is one of a growing number of soldiers and support groups who have renounced their actions in Iraq. He said:

"I was the gung-ho soldier. I thought I was going over there to do the greater good. I thought my job over there was to protect the Iraqi people and that this was a job with honor and courage and duty. I was hit by an IED within two weeks of my being in Iraq. And I didn’t understand why people were throwing rocks at us, why I was being shot at and why we’re being blown up, when I have it in my head that I was here to help these people."

Interesting stuff people .....

www.afterdowningstreet.org
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Wait, is this one of the guys speaking and laughing while killing people and now he has a conscience?

It's not him right, this is someone else?

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Nope not him see....

McCord is on of the soldiers seen helping two wounded children after the attack.

-Al

Wow, that was very brave
glad to know the soldiers are waking up to whats going on
its a shame it happens after they blow up people



Edit: Here is a video of that letter



[edit on 17-6-2010 by Sianara]

reply to post by AlBeMet


Ok I see
He's a real hero

If it was only people like him who went to Afghanistan this war would have been over YEARS AGO!!!

That is an eye opening article. The soldier states an important fact:

Instead of people being upset at a few soldiers in a video who were doing what they were trained to do, I think people need to be more upset at the system that trained these soldiers. They are doing exactly what the Army wants them to do."

Indeed. The individual soldiers have been scapegoated when it is the brass and the leaders who are responsible for training and encouraging the killing of civilians.

This news needs to get out there. It is time to put the blame where it rightly belongs. Sure there are individuals who gravitate towards this kind of violence, but the system gives them the opportunity. Fix the system, destroy the war machine, and this thing will be no more.

Very nice read and a interesting article. Many similar articles and revelations have come out in the past, it has not changed one thing. The war complex is too powerful to be bothered by such statements. Only when soldiers do this kind of stuff enmasse it can give a small jolt to the war machinery.

Napalm the poppy plants and destroy the oil wells and come home.

If only I was a pilot that is what I would do.

Is it treason to destroy other products that do not initially belong to our country anyways?!

It is just more corporate fascism. I am glad some of the soldiers are waking up, but it is a little to late...

The damage is done.

Here is the declaration of on the news saying bush will make an end of the war in Iraq speech. Go to 25 seconds and watch till 35 seconds, the news caster mentions it.

www.youtube.com...

Ethan Mccord- true American hero. May other soldiers deny ignorance also. To see him running with that child makes me want to cry. This is a real man, a real American full of honor and pride.

Originally posted by wayno
That is an eye opening article. The soldier states an important fact:

Instead of people being upset at a few soldiers in a video who were doing what they were trained to do, I think people need to be more upset at the system that trained these soldiers. They are doing exactly what the Army wants them to do."

Indeed. The individual soldiers have been scapegoated when it is the brass and the leaders who are responsible for training and encouraging the killing of civilians.

This news needs to get out there. It is time to put the blame where it rightly belongs. Sure there are individuals who gravitate towards this kind of violence, but the system gives them the opportunity. Fix the system, destroy the war machine, and this thing will be no more.

I agree mostly, but we certainly can't say it's all the army's fault for training them that way. To use the age-old analogy, if the army told them to jumpt off a cliff, would they do it? Well, perhaps they would, but the point is, it is ultimately down to the individual soldier to be accountable for his/her own actions. Of course, if they are given false intel, and believe they are doing something right, that's different.

So yes, you are right, they are being used as scapegoats, BUT they can only be used as such because they are the ones doing these things.

reply to post by ShadowArcher


Yes it is all the U.S. corporate Army's fault.

There is no America or American Troops only United States troops.

Which the U.S. is a Jewish Zionist corporation, which does what it wants, when it wants.

The people pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth and a false ideal. Thinking it is their duty to protect something that has no meaning.

What are we doing protecting people, in a war, that was declared that was already won?

Trying to establish Democracy? It is only an illusion of choice.

Edited to add:

People should be aware of what contract they are making with the Fascists when they sign there life away when they join the army.

Once your in, your benefits and privileges (you have no rights thanks to the Patriot Act and Trading with the Enemy Act anyways) are stripped away and you salute the flag as a sign of "I/We have been conquered."



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reply to post by Quickfix


I don't know what the hell you are talking about in relation to my post. I'm saying that a soldier putting a bullet in a civilian's head when he/she knows damn well it's wrong is his/her own choice, whether its an order or not.

Of course the bull# war is their fault, that is not what I was talking about.

reply to post by jpvskyfreak


dang!
you find some great stuff skyfreak!
many thanks!

I only hope more and more soldiers come forward and recount their stories of what actually happens over there.

It's easy to point at and discredit one man. But if more and more could do it en mass, the critics of anti-war people would be far less inclined to do so.

It makes you so angry because, as much as we all know it's a crap situation, that the army machine is broken and the allied forces are there when they shouldn't be - TPTB just wave us past... "Move along, move along..."

Well Im sick of the shock and suprise that people greet this sort of news with. Spray and pray methods are bad enough when theres a real target in the battle space, but doing it when the soldier KNOWS the only targets are civilian non combatants is so many kinds of wrong that there arent words which do it justice.
However, this shouldnt be a new idea to anyone ... anybody who thought that the US/UK forces in Iraq OR for that matter anywhere else in the war on terror, pick thier targets, make sure of the legitimacy of every shot... well you obviously havent been paying attention. With regards to the video , Collateral Murder... that makes me angry. Pathetic dirt bags behind the guns didnt get close enough to make sure of the targets. I heard the word Bushmaster being used there... I take it they mean the Bushmaster gun, the one which fires the explosive anti armour rounds. If thats true, then what they did in not being DAMNED sure that what they were shooting was a genuine target ought to get everyone on both those helicopters thier faces kicking in.
When sitting in a multi-million dollar aircraft, one ought to be able to figure out that theres a responsibility that comes with that, which exceeds the responsibility explained by commanding officers, and trainers . That would be the responsibility to make damned sure you never hit a civilian when it can be avoided. Pathetic, wasteful, stupid, and evidence that current methods of vetting are not stringent enough.

reply to post by ShadowArcher


It's hard to make it any clearer then what I previously posted.

The Army, Air Force, and Navy do not belong to the Americans.

The soldiers work for a corporation bent on making profit at the expense of the environment and people.

The Military training is brainwashing and desensitization to kill without question. Though Survival and martial arts training should be taught everywhere.

The choices the Soldiers make are predestined. I don't hear to often of soldiers refusing orders..

Most of the time civilians are killed is because of an accident or bad intel like you said. Killing is the name of the game and the Illuminati do not care whom the kill..

The highest rank that is achievable without being included in the Illuminati club is Major.

reply to post by Quickfix


That's what I thought you were saying - making excuses for the soldiers murdering innocent civilians. Yes the training is a form of brainwashing, but not the kind that makes them incapable of using their brains if they actually wanted to.

I'm certainly not downplaying the role of the military body, but neither am I downplaying the role of the individual. As I said, their actions are their own.

Originally posted by ShadowArcher
reply to post by Quickfix

 

I'm certainly not downplaying the role of the military body, but neither am I downplaying the role of the individual. As I said, their actions are their own.

American soldiers are not heroes, they are delusional propaganda victims, abused and turned into murderers.
We are not Americans,Iraqi,Christians or Muslims. We are just people. Nationalism and religion are weapons the rulers use to enslave us all. The day we start seeing the "enemy" as being a person who is related to us is the day wars will end. The day we see our rulers as the potential enemy will be the day we are free.

the government was supposed to be the ones to stop corruption instead they spread it. the internet is a major highway for freedom to that information and the bridges and tunnels are barricaded with lies and deception.
places like wikileaks are the sticks of dynamite we will shove up the ass of those that lie to us!

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