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Does Alex Jones realize how much paranoia he's instilling on people?

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posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 12:49 AM
reply to post by Max_TO

Thanks, but narcissism and lying go hand in hand. It's basically implied. He's one hellova liar for sure. I was once caught in his web of deceit when I was overly paranoid. Now I've just got a small healthy dose of that.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 12:52 AM
reply to post by unityemissions

Fair enough , I will give that to you

But you got to admit , it does help the point by plainly stating for the record that he is a proven lier

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 01:00 AM
I've never been able to determine how to feel about Alex Jones. I appreciate that he covers topics that the MSM won't touch. But at the same time when I read or watch some of the things that he and/or his organization produces, I can't help wondering how much it has been embellished and exaggerated.

For example, if I could sit down and watch one of his full-length movies, and do so without the doomsday music and his overly dramatic manner of talking, in the back of my mind I would probably feel compelled to take him more seriously. I recall watching one of the movies and afterward feeling like depressed because of the way the music and his tone seemed to bear down on my mind. And for me that's hard to do because I'm always upbeat and looking at the good side of things. Why can't he lay off the dramatic flair and just speak the facts like a normal guy?

So yeah, I can totally understand people feeling paranoid after getting fed enough of his media. I think there's a subconscious factor to it that stems directly from how his message is delivered. Whether or not it's intentional, who knows? But I do believe he'd be doing himself and his audience a favor if he'd go easy on the drama and take a more down to earth approach.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 01:43 AM
Ahhh the Wizard of OZ sends out the disinfo clan to press "doubt" into the minds of the "weak" listeners of AJ. This whole society behaves like a primadonna Dorthy in Kansas afraid to stand up to fascists flouting fascism in their faces, it takes more courage to say no the bums in DC and Wall St than to spin on like they are nothing to fear, nothing to worry about....until one day telling people about the crime becomes the crime.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 01:48 AM
reply to post by John_Q_Llama

Yeah, that is personally why I have been ignoring the Alex Jones radio broadcaat now. I have been listening to the corbett report and it does all the things that I wish Aj woupd do. The guy who does the show always has all the documents to prove what he says and he is very clear and to the point. Aj will rant a lot and not use examples to back his rants up while he rants... or he will really sensationalize it with the episode where he said that people cant have their kids hang out with other people anymore based on one article... but in the show the Corbett report they only focus on real examples, and never say something without evidence and when they talk about bilderberg they talk with specific details, not just vague generalizations about what might happen. Alex Jones just seems to not have a detailed oriented approach and he makes his arguments largely based on feelings, and I think that is the real problem. I still am not convinced Aj is a disinfo, but, he does need to tone it down some.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:14 AM
That AJ he's just crazy governments don't kill people

Communist Body Count
Communist Body Count: 149,469,610"

"Scott Manning
December 4, 2006
The following estimates represent citizens killed or starved to death by their own Communist governments since 1918. These numbers do not include war dead. The governments are sorted by body count (highest to lowest).
While this list is as complete as I have been able to determine, it is evolving. Some numbers are incomplete and there are still five Communist countries that have the potential to kill more of their citizens. Over the next year, each government will be profiled in detail on this website.

Communist Body Count: 149,469,610"

Eugenics Quotes: From lofty ideals to centralized population control and mass death

Aaron Dykes

Here’s a collection of eugenics quotes– from as far back as 520 B.C. (the ideas are clearly age-old) up through the golden age of Eugencis-proper (from about 1883 through WWII), and up to the present date, where futurists, transhumanists and government policy makers look to an age where race-specific weapons are possible and mass death is conceivable and desirable for some of those in control.

With respect to those who may find the eugenics promise of better, faster, stronger, more human-than-human and the end of disease and handicaps to be appealing, I put forward (as a working thesis, if you will), that the drawbacks and excesses of eugenics as we’ve already seen it unfold should caution any promotion or endorsement.

Eugenics has been promoted not as a general philosophy of man, but inherently as a system of state control– where reproduction must be guided by "wisemen" of one brand or another. This system leads, ultimately, again and again to control by elites who seek god-like powers (oftentimes in those very words)– and total social control will almost always guide its directives and oversee its moral judgments– making the betterment of the many over the elite few impossible.

This is true not only in the excesses of the Nazi Germany– an obvious extreme, but in the would-be ideals of H.G. Wells (a la his 1905 Modern Utopia), the sometimes practical, sometimes overtly controlling eugenical policies in the USA, England and elsewhere in the first third of the 20th century– and the same perils of total control threaten us in the might-be ideals of meg lo-maniacal elites of the transhumanist camp– most who envision a man transformed, and some who envision the power of a god to kill the many.

Thus, what I oppose is not the hope for a better man, but the repetition of a vicious cycle of elite control and systematic death– surely a far cry from the ideals we were asked to hope for in the promises of sciences & the state– but connected, undoubtedly, to the controls over the direction of humanity as he moves ever forward towards the future.


EUGENICS QUOTES (By no means exhaustive)

"Ram, ass, and horse, my Kyrnos, we look over
With care, and seek good stock for good to cover;
And yet the best men make no argument,
But wed, for money, runts of poor descent.
So too a woman will demean her state
And spurn the better for the richer mate.
Money’s the cry. Good stock to bad is wed
And bad to good, till all the world’s cross-bred.
No wonder if the country’s breed declines-
Mixed metal, Kyrnos, that but dimly shines."
Theognis of Megara on eugenics and dysgenics, circa 520 B.C.

"Men are generally more careful of the breed of their horses and dogs than of their children."
- William Penn. Some fruits of solitude, in reflections and maxims relating to the conduct of human life. 1693

"It does not, however, seem impossible that by an attention to breed, a certain degree of improvement, similar to that among animals, might take place among men. Whether intellect could be communicated may be a matter of doubt: but size, strength, beauty, complexion, and perhaps even longevity are in a degree transmissible… As the human race could not be improved in this way, without condemning all the bad specimens to celibacy, it is not probable, that an attention to breed should ever become general."
- Thomas R. Malthus. An Essay on Population. 1798

"Eugenics is the study of the agencies under social control that may improve or impair the racial qualities of future generations either physically or mentally."
– Francis Galton, first cousin and associate of Charles Darwin, circa 1883

"What nature does blindly, slowly and ruthlessly, man may do providently, quickly, and kindly. As it lies within his power, so it becomes his duty to work in that direction."
– Sir Francis Galton (1905)

"Galton’s eccentric, sceptical, observing, flashing, cavalry-leader type of mind led him eventually to become the founder of the most important, significant and, I would add, genuine branch of sociology which exists, namely eugenics."
John Maynard Keynes. Eugenics Review. 1946

"Natural selection must be replaced by eugenical artificial selection. This idea constitutes the sound core of eugenics, the applied science of human betterment."
- Theodosius Dobzhansky. Heredity and the Nature of Man. 1964

"…impregnation will be regarded in an entirely different manner, more in the light of a surgical operation, so that it will be thought not ladylike to have it performed in the natural manner."
Bertrand Russell. The Scientific Outlook. 1972

"There is no permanent status quo in nature; all is the process of adjustment and readjustment, or else eventual failure. But man is the first being yet evolved on earth which has the power to note this changefulness, and, if he will, to turn it to his own advantage, to work out genetic methods, eugenic ideas, yes, to invent new characteristics, organs, and biological systems that will work out to further the interests, the happiness, the glory of the God-like being whose meager foreshadowings we the present ailing creatures are."
- Herrman J. Muller, 1935 (an associate of Sir Julian Huxley)

"The first century or two of the new millennium will almost certainly be a golden age for Eugenics. Through application of new genetic knowledge and reproductive technologies…the major change will be to mankind itself…[T]echniques…such as…genetic manipulations are not yet efficient enough to be unquestionably suitable in therapeutic and eugenic application for humans. But with the pace of research it is surely only a matter of time, and a short time at that."
- Glayde Whitney, Reproduction Technology for a New Eugenics, paper for The Galton Institute conference Man and Society in the New Millennium, September 1999

"There is NO DENYING the natural world would be a better place without people – ALL people! Not a selective bunch. Get it straight."
Rebecca Calisi, student of Eric Pianka

"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it."
- Jacques Cousteau, 1991 UNESCO courier

"Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind…. Any group of farmers who permitted their best stock not to breed, and let all the increase come from the worst stock, would be treated as fit inmates for an asylum…. Some day we will realize that the prime duty, the inescapable duty of the good citizens of the right type is to leave his or her blood behind him in the world; and that we have no business to permit the perpetuation of citizens of the wrong type. The great problem of civilization is to secure a relative increase of the valuable as compared with the less valuable or noxious elements in the population… The problem cannot be met unless we give full consideration to the immense influence of heredity…"
- Theodore Roosevelt to Charles B. Davenport, January 3, 1913, Charles B. Davenport Papers, Department of Genetics, Cold Spring Harbor, N.Y.

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posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 02:20 AM
reply to post by Danbones

Sorry but what does any of that have to do with Alex ?

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 05:15 AM
reply to post by Max_TO

if you have to ask why there is a post of eugenics quotes on an I hate AJ thread then IMHO you really need to answer that question for your self

have a nice day

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:32 AM
well, the mainstream media seems to care his influence ... so, he must be something right ... the international media publish about him, so he must be doing something right

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:38 AM
I do not listen to him, bad for your health. I think your better off just listening to william coopers old radio shows, as good. Plus cooper kept you on a level, without going overboard, like the gov wants with jones.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:46 AM
reply to post by andy1033

William Cooper was a patriot and NWO DESTROYER!! R I P Bill!

I still listen to Alex and Bill, but try to delineate through the rhetoric and stay focused on the issues, not on the person spreading the word, just so we're clear.

Interesting assasination on Bill wouldn't ya say???

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:49 AM
reply to post by chemical_chameleon

too right, just after 911, plus they wanted to arrest him on sep 11th, how weird.

I can see how cooper was a threat as he was very good at critical thinking that i think jones lacks, and most people in the truth movement does.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:54 AM
reply to post by andy1033

I can sum it up on one line,

The torch was either passed or stolen from Bill and no credit given, F@#$!

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:57 AM
I sense a lot of people here don't really know much and haven't done much research.

If that is the case you've got alot of catching up to do and not much time.

Alex Jones failing is he goes on rants about stuff and can't stop acting like an arrogant guy that is really full of himself.

But the job he is doing needs to be done and I don't see too many others out there willing to do it. He's right more often than he is wrong even if he does exaggerate somewhat. But a few of the guests he gets certainly make up for it.

One thing I will say is I don't think there is anything wrong with making people paranoid because if they're not scared right now they should be. America and the UK have been hollowed out economically and there is a large war coming in the not too distant future.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:13 AM
here's what I decided with alex jones:

He says 'all' what he means is 'some'

government will impose martial law on 'all'

turns into martial law in the Gulf of mexico.

He's not 100 percent wrong, he just implies 'everywhere' because he doesn't know exactly where the evil will localize.

in his defense, if the government had the ability they would try to kill all of us. We are unnecessary. They only care for themselves and their mindless slaves -the real drones-.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:19 AM

Originally posted by imitator
I think your wrong...
I say all evidence points toward Alex Jones being a disinfo agent. I could make a big list as to why he is, but for now here is recent proof....

At the end of MSNBC Documentary, 'Rise of the New Right' I took a screen grab, it provided who sent footage and stills to this twisted documentary.....


Are you serious? That's your logic that he's "disinfo"?


posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:24 AM
"just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't watching you"

Paranoid- Black Sabbath

Finished with my woman cause she
couldn't help me with my mind!
people think i'm insane
because I am frowning all the time!

All day long I think of things
but nothing seems to satisfy
Think I'll lose my mind
if I don't find something to pacify

Can you help me, occupy my brain?
Oh yeah!

I need someone to show me
the things in life that I can't find
I can't see the things that make true
happiness, I must be blind

Make a joke and I will sigh
and you will laugh and I will cry
Happiness I cannot feel
and love to me is so unreal

And so as you hear these words
telling you now of my state
I tell you to enjoy life
I wish I could but it's too late

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:54 AM
reply to post by Frankidealist35

"Does Alex Jones realize how much paranoia he's instilling on people?"

The ammount of paranoia instilled is directly proportional to the ammount of money he makes. So, yeah, I think he is aware of that.

That´s the problem I have with Alex Jones and any other of these folks who's income comes from fearmongering. The guy may have started legit, got famous and realised he could make some bucks everytime he opens his mouth. Problem is, everytime he opens his mouth, something new and interesting must come out of it, or it gets old.

So, the recipe is to twist current events as much as possible to fit into his theories, thus becoming a source of conspiratory theories based on fear mongering, thus instilling paranoia, thus making big bucks, which completes the cycle.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 10:05 AM
And yes, we all know that Alex would be much more believable and reach an even bigger audience if he didn't sell things in order to make money to keep his operation going.

That's the first rule of business afterall.


posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 11:26 AM
Does Mr. Obama realize how much paranoia he is instilling in people?

I mean, you can't make up the stuff that is even true about Mr. Obama...

Like what you say?

He claims to be a Christian, but covers up a pic/carving of Jesus at a speech at Notre Dame.

He is not against gun ownership, but voted against it everytime as a senator and appoints anti gun people to office.

He is gonna make BP pay, but they paid his campaign handsomely.

He is not socialist, but government out grew the private sector in major fashion this past year.

He is gonna pull our troops home, but they sre going over in ever increasing numbers.

He is now able to kill the internet.

Further, he....Hey, you get the picture.

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