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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 07:45 PM
I completely agree with the OP on basically every point - however, it takes a long time to get all the info and understand it - and most people are simply stuck in the 'agreed' reality that is presented by MSM and educational institutions.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 07:53 PM
reply to post by mnemeth1

Oh mnemeth1, you're becoming a broken record. You've become so blinded by your hatred of government that you don't see there are in fact private interests in this world that act for evil too.

Sure, there have been evil governments, I will never dispute that fact or say that government is inherently good. It is an idea, the same as capitalism or socialism, and is morally neutral having no more good or evil skew to it than a hammer.

People however have moral capacity, and act accordingly. Banking is not the only industry that has been used for evil, journalism, my industry was the primary motivator for the Spanish-American War, and the leaders of journalism massively manipulated both the public and government to attain their greedy goals.

Seeing only government being used for evil makes you unable to confront the multitude of problems in our world, I do agree that the banks have gone far too far, and the spirit of the OP is a good one, I find fault in the specifics and in leaving this without arguing it out. I have far more problem with narrow takes on the issue and insistence that either government or bankers are wholly at fault for absolutely everything.

There's more than enough blame to go around today.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 07:58 PM
I apologize for the short post but...."Fight the Good Fight!" You will always win.


posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:07 PM

Originally posted by C11H17N2NaO2S

Why would anyone leave like that without wanting a reaction and to be recognized for something. No recognition here, just nothing..nothing at all.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by C11H17N2NaO2S]

Not everyone gets on here to have their ego stroked. Had you considered that possibility?

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:10 PM
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Interesting thread. I appreciate the work that went into that. One thing though, and I hope this isn't considered too picky. (I am of course now speaking to whomever is reading since the OP is apparently choosing to no longer participate)

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
At 30,000-35,000 feet below the surface of the ocean comes close to what we refer to as the “CORE” of the earth.

Actually 35,000 feet would be about 7 miles. You don't get to the Earth's core until about the 3,000 mile mark below the surface. So it really isn't close by any stretch, unless a brisk Saturday afternoon jog is close to running coast to coast across the USA. The crust (outermost portion) of the Earth is about 22 miles thick, which is about 116,000 feet. To get to the core, you still need to go through the mantle, or another 9.5 MILLION feet.

I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater; you do present some good information and food for thought. But facts are facts. If the ones that can be quickly checked are errant, what else might be? Rhetorical question. That particular comment sort of stuck me in the eye when I read it and felt compelled to address it.

Best of luck to the OP. No shame in coming back, if you choose to. A lot of people do.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:13 PM
Great post OP, but wasn't the money connection already obvious?
You did a great job connecting the dots so clearly, very well researched.

I am not going to leave ATS however or run around in the streets when it all falls apart.
I will be sitting right here when the chaos hits, laughing my behind off.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:21 PM
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

Good you mentioned that book, I didn't have the guts - now we are talking mind control and most people laugh at this idea until they research further.

Some of the theories and experiences are so far out there that they defy imagination, yet they are evident and clearly present.

Everyone likes to think they are the masters of their own thoughts.

Think again.

Just start researching "mind control".

The select few that are running this planet depend upon your ignorace in accepting that your brain can be manipulated.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:22 PM
I want to take this even further. And BTW I love this thread, I think I figured out who the enemy is and I think you have not even put a dent in the horrible acts they have done. This has been going on since the Romans, it has been reoccurring for millenniums now.

The Federal Reserve was established in 1914, WW1 started 3 years later in 1917.
First Bank of the United States was established in 1791 and was disbanded in 1811. Napoleon seized control of France in 1799 and began the Napoleonic wars across Europe.

It began in 1803, just 12 years after the FBUS and the war ended just 4 years after the bank was disbanded. This forced Napoleon to sell the Louisiana territory to the United States to fund their wars across Europe. The Continental System was a perfect example of economic warfare by our Banking dictators.

In 1812 Napoleon got cocky and invaded Russia after the FBUS was disbanded, ending his funding. He took on Russia and lost, retreating. Then in 1812, many Eastern European countries decided that France was weak and decided to fight them. This lasted until 1815 when Napoleon was defeated.

Don't forget that after the FBUS was disbanded we had to fight the War of 1812 which forced us into inflation leading to the Second Bank of the United States to be established in 1816. The war was meant to tell us that if we don't let them run us, they will crush us into subservience.

The SBUS lasted from 1816-1836, then lasted five years private and went bankrupt. Then we entered the Panic of 1819. Then guess what happened in 1820? Spanish Civil War where the French assisted in fighting off the Royalty. Imagine that.

Then another war in 1826, except this time it was by enforced by the British.

However, Fath 'Ali Shah, constantly in need of foreign subsidies, relied on the advice of British agents, who pressed him to reconquer the territories lost to Russia and pledged their support to military action.

Russo-Persia war of 1826

Then just before the bank ended we had the Texas Revolution.

Between 1837 and 1862 there was a period of Free Banking when we had no central Bank.

Then in 1863 we had the lovely National Bank established to do what? You know it.

The Act, together with Abraham Lincoln's issuance of "greenbacks," raised money for the federal government in the American Civil War by enticing banks to buy federal bonds and taxing state bank issued currency out of existence. The law proved defective and was replaced by the National Bank Act of 1864. The money was used to fund the Union army in the fight against the Confederacy. This authorized the OCC to examine and regulate nationally-chartered banks.

Then in 1907 we had Panic of 1907 and just 7 years later we were 'blessed'
with the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve was established in 1914 and just 3 years later we had World War 1 in 1917, World War 2 in 1939, Korean War, Viet Nam War, Afghanistan War, Iraq War and many other smaller wars.

Notice a pattern? It goes back since Rome it has never ended it has only changed. Every war in the last 2 millenniums has been because of these bankers which funded the wars and the governments. The Churches have been in bed with the bankers since the beginning, this allowed the banks to have a way to control the population.

They created religion, bound the people with moral rules and regulations and gave religious reasons to wage war against their neighbors due to petty reasons such as different views of Jesus. They made huge profit and the poor lost their lives.

This has never ended and probably never will.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:28 PM
reply to post by Misoir

You are right it has been going on since the Romans.

Anyone recall the dragon from Revelations? 7 heads, 10 horns...

It's been the same force all along.

@OP - thank you so much for this outpouring, it reminds me so much of the angel and the little scroll...sweet to the taste and yet sour to the stomach.

This revelation is a first an AHA! elation, followed by sheer disgust.

So folks, the NWO isn't something in the future...we're in it right now, and have been for quite some time.

Peace and love to you all,


posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:33 PM
Good luck in the future. Great post.

If you are reading, I only have one major qualm with what you say and that is the part regarding the possibility of creating a volcano. You failed to do your homework on that issue. It is simply not possible nor is your understanding of drilling and Oil Reservoirs near what it should be.

You have hit on many items I agree with though and that is appreciated.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:39 PM
I must back up that bankers seem to have hold of all the strings.

From the day the first true modern bank opened its doors in Venice up until now.
I've started the start of an article about it but I never finished translating it.
It is about the bankers and starts from the beginning to this day.

The first about the Dutch royal and second about the Jews has made people leave.( And my translation ability of course)
The entire article is backed up by mainstream evidence.

@ Missior
I believe it was way sooner the fed existed. The one you are talking about is already the third edition.

[edit on 6/16/2010 by Sinter Klaas]

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:43 PM
reply to post by operation mindcrime

If they are trying to antogonize people, they will do it do gain more control and money.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:52 PM

originally posted by evolved ministryRight now, we are witnessing a seepage of gases and oil is now bursting from the floor of the ocean due to the immense pressure that it is under.

If this continue's to spew gasses, will that eventually reduced the pressure inside the earth which is constantly pushing outward & due to the force pushing against the outer layers not being there any more - threaten the structural integrity of the earth itself? without the pressure with it become brittle & frail and colapse in on itself?


posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:08 PM
a lot of work for nothing. It's all misguided and quite wrong. Good bye good, riddance, get a life.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:14 PM

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Here is a piece written by PHD Leonard G. Horowitz.

actually simply by clicking the link and reading the header of the article you will find -

This article's author, John Loftus, is a former U.S. Department of Justice Nazi War Crimes prosecutor, the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum and the highly respected author of numerous books on the CIA-Nazi connection including The Belarus Secret and The Secret War Against the Jews, both of which have extensive material on the Bush-Rockefeller-Nazi connection.

So it was NOT written by Horowitz,

But this is actually a good thing as Horowitz is a liar, fraud and openly admitted to being a member of The Knights Of Malta.

Really an all-round dodgy guy.

So again, this article is not tarnished by Horowitz's personal credibility.


[edit on 16/6/10 by B.Morrison]

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:16 PM
Links to thickness of earths crust it shows world wide crust thickness.

[edit on 6/16/2010 by dashar]

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:18 PM
reply to post by B.Morrison

No it will not.

An Oil Reservoir is a trap in the rock where a permeable layer and the oil it contains is trapped by an impermeable layer.

Permeable means the rock contains pores that allow things like water and oil to penetrate it, while an impermeable layer will not.

The fallacy is that oil is in an underground void. It is not. Its contained within solid rock. What puts it under pressure is the weight of the material above it.

There is no cavern or void to collapse. When they mention something like the floor collapsing, they mean a gradual settling as the oil is drained out.

Where this well is, the crust is about 30 miles thick. Below the crust is a zone described as being in a plastic state. Think of it like a solid, malleable clay. Then you get into the Mantle where the magma exists.

Worst case is that the ocean floor will settle as the pool drains out.

There will be no volcanoes or tsunami's from a chamber collapsing. That is Internet hysteria.

The Gulf is and will suffer great damage but the oil will degrade long before it reaches other shores. Just as the natural seeps, which account for most oil in the Oceans does. Then naturally occurring microbes feed on the rest.

No doubt this is bad news for the Gulf, but on a global scale it won't have much impact on other area's.

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:19 PM

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
A previously unknown guy who was referred to in this book, would later be knighted as Representative Tom Foley screwed up and got caught soliciting children.

Yo! EM, I think that was Mark Foley.

Not poor Tom...

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:23 PM
reply to post by Blaine91555

Ah I see...thanks for giving me some perspective on things


posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:24 PM
reply to post by dashar

You are misreading the contours. I checked this out days ago. The bottom of this hole does not even reach the zone below the crust, let alone the Mantle. The possible Batholith below it is solid granite, not magma.

You are reading the contour of 20 miles as 10 miles and forgetting that between contours the depth increases. I'd guess that hole as being over crust about 25 miles thick. Then you have the zone between that and the Mantle before you hit magma.

This bizarre volcano scenario is not even in the realm of possible.

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