The Deep Horizon Conspiracy, Does Evidence Point to Foreknowledge of a Pre-Planned Event?

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:43 PM
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G'Day ATS,

I promised myself I wouldn't add to the over 500 threads on this terrible event, which both in Human and Environmental terms can be classed as a tragedy. However I'm unable to resist the pull of a conspiracy, so here it goes!

I began by sifting through many of the threads from the last few months, racking my brains to recall some of the stories that could possibly fit into a Deep Horizon conspiracy.

This is what I came up with, you can't keep a good Conspiracy Theorist at bay for long!!


A POSSIBLE TRIAL RUN?


I posted this in March, it barely got a reply but I look back on it now in a different light.

BBC NEWS


Oil threat to Australia wildlife

Environmentalists have warned that an oil slick caused by an accident on a rig in the Timor Sea is threatening wildlife in Australian waters.

Oil has been flowing from the West Atlas platform for three weeks.

Safety authorities have been using chemicals to try to break up the spill but warn it could be at least two more weeks before the leak is plugged. Environmentalists have warned that an oil slick caused by an accident on a rig in the Timor Sea is threatening wildlife in Australian waters.

Oil has been flowing from the West Atlas platform for three weeks.

Safety authorities have been using chemicals to try to break up the spill but warn it could be at least two more weeks before the leak is plugged.


The Montara Oil Spill


The Montara oil spill was an oil and gas leak and subsequent slick that took place in the Montara oil field in the Timor Sea, off the northern coast of Western Australia. It is considered one of Australia's worst oil disasters. The slick was released following a blowout from the Montara wellhead platform on August 21, 2009, and continued leaking until November 3, 2009, when the leak was stopped by pumping mud into the well and the wellbore cemented thus "capping" the blowout.


- Sound familiar? This one was also a deep water rig, amazing how they managed to clear it up so quickly (at the time I was furious at the ten week delay, little did I know!)


STRANGE CASE OF THE CANCELLED DRILL


The story below raised a few eyebrows back in April. At the time, folk on ATS speculated that this was a bad omen. Something was going to kick off.

National disaster exercises, called too costly and scripted, may be scaled back


The plan was to stage the nation's first live exercise that simulates a nuclear bomb being detonated by terrorists in an American city, with 10,000 emergency responders, U.S. troops and officials playing out their roles in the heart of Las Vegas.

But the Obama administration cancelled the Nevada events set for next month after Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), backed by casino and business interests, said it would frighten away tourists and "unacceptably harm" the region's battered economy.


So all that terrorist need to do is target highly-populated tourist hotspots if they want to cause maximum bloodshed (because the US Government doesn't deem it necessary to prepare those places, wouldn't want to piss off the tourists now!), nice one!!


It certainly has to be said, this was a lucky decision on behalf of Obama, imagine spending all that money on a drill when a few weeks later millions more would have been spent on this current crisis!! Does this point to possible foreknowledge of the Deepwater Horizon Oil Leak?


CLUES IN THE FINANCIAL WORLD


A good place to look for any sign of foreknowledge is obviously in the financial markets, prices of crude and Gold would surely change after sure a huge event. And sure enough, they have:

In the wake of the massive oil slick encompassing the Gulf, prices of crude have rocketed. Reasons for this are obvious, the supply of oil has been reduced due to the cessation of drilling and reduced output in the Gulf. It has actually been reported today that supplies of crude actually GREW last week, however the trend of increasing prices continued. The doubts circulating over the Euro-zone's economic recovery had caused the prices to drop in recent months, Deepwater Horizon put paid to that!

When investors see volatility or uncertainty in one market, they usually head for the relative safety of....GOLD!!

And of course, this was true here. Except for one small detail, how did investors know AHEAD of time to switch to gold?

6 MONTH GOLD CHARD - LARGE



We can see from the image, that around the 12th of April, Gold spiked to record levels, this was over a week before the disaster, coincidence?

How about Oil, is there any repetition of this trend? Well actually, yes there is:

CRUDE OIL 1YR PRICE GRAPH



See the spike in prices from March to Mid-April, as expected Post-Accident, but not before. Now I'm not saying that this is definitive proof, just remember we're looking for POSSIBLE evidence or pointers to there being foreknowledge.

Here's another source showing CLN10 Futures, see the spike in April, around the same time (12th)




THE ELITE DUMP BP STOCK?


With the information above in mind, these stories have to be seriously considered as evidence of foreknowledge:

BP chief Tony Hayward sold shares weeks before oil spill


Tony Hayward cashed in about a third of his holding in the company one month before a well on the Deepwater Horizon rig burst, causing an environmental disaster.

Mr Hayward, whose pay package is £4 million a year, then paid off the mortgage on his family’s mansion in Kent, which is estimated to be valued at more than £1.2 million.


It always amazes me how the super rich are sooo lucky!!


Since he disposed of 223,288 shares on March 17, the company’s share price has fallen by 30 per cent. About £40 billion has been wiped off its total value. The fall has caused pain not just for BP shareholders, but also for millions of company pension funds and small investors who have money held in tracker funds.


This story is also a little fishy!!

Goldman Sachs sold $250 million of BP stock before spill


The brokerage firm that's faced the most scrutiny from regulators in the past year over the shorting of mortgage related securities seems to have had good timing when it came to something else: the stock of British oil giant BP.

According to regulatory filings, RawStory.com has found that Goldman Sachs sold 4,680,822 shares of BP in the first quarter of 2010. Goldman's sales were the largest of any firm during that time. Goldman would have pocketed slightly more than $266 million if their holdings were sold at the average price of BP's stock during the quarter.


Again, impeccable timing for this machine of the elite., how do they do it??


BP COULD NOT HAVE DONE A WORSE JOB IF THEY TRIED


BP's 8 dumbest mistakes




1. BP never had a realistic plan to deal with a spill

2. BP went with a risky type of blowout preventer — and then didn't maintain it

3. The well's critical plumbing was shoddy and poorly designed

4. BP and rig workers ignored or misread clear warning signs

5. A "company man" overrode explosion concerns of well cementers

6. BP hasn't fessed up about how much oil is really spilling

7. BP's "solutions" may be making the spill much, much worse

8. BP needs a bigger boat


Please follow the link for the details of those assertions.

So let's recap.

We have a similar leak a few months previously.

We have Obama cancelling the NLE in the month of the accident.

We have markets behaving consistently with foreknowledge of the event.

We have Goldman and the head of BP dumping their shares.

We have BP seemingly doing all in their power to make this worse.

I don't know ATS, when you connect the dots, it sure smells fishy, I mean oily.



Finally, perhaps the biggest conspiracy YET on ATS:

The first thread reporting this by Wondering302.

Burning rig leaks oil into Gulf of Mexico; 11 workers still missing


2 replies, 1 Flag...

Give it a flag my friends, might be the biggest thread ever NOT to get it's just rewards on ATS!!

All the best, Kiwifoot







[edit on 16-6-2010 by kiwifoot]




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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Nice thread! However with that being said, it is hard for me to believe that this was done on purpose, for at least a couple of reasons.

The first reason being that this is a huge disaster that we all will suffer, not to mention the company that we blame for it.

The second reasons being that Obama sure doesn't have a good response to this. You would think that if he had knew about this before hand, he would have planned a response that would make him look better.

The third reason being that there are easier and less expensive ways to achieve whatever results they would be after.

The fourth reason being that this *accident could have easily occurred, absent some conspiracy. It was basically waiting to happen.

Lets take a look at the first reason. Would BP really be complicit in a scheme that will all but eliminate the company from the future market? Would they not have to be "in on it". It could be easily argued that those who are reported missing or dead, saw what was going on and so were eliminated as to keep them quiet but this wouldn't account for the BP executives that are surely at a loss because of this disaster. Also, why hurt yourself to for whatever goal your trying to accomplish? This disaster will effect everyone, elite or peasant. While it will hurt some more than others, it will still hurt everyone. Surely another method could have been used.

As for the second reason, why wouldn't Obama be on his toes and responding in a manner that would appease the American people? Would he not have at least put on a better show? It would seem that he would have planned a much better "show", had he have known before hand or at least TPTB would have planned a better show for Mr. Obama.

Moving along to the third reason, I have noticed that after 9/11, even the threat or warning of an accident, attack or other disaster is enough to scare the American people into whatever goal TPTB are after. Why go to such large troubles to accomplish a goal when a warning or lesser event would surely suffice?

The fourth reason and the most obvious IMO, is that BP has been known to cut corners. It was only a matter of time before an accident such as this would occur. I started a thread titled: BP's extremely long list of violations (in only a few short years) that implies just that. Frankly, I'm surprised that this didn't happen sooner.

As far as the things that look suspicious to me, Obama's recent stance reversal on off-shore drilling. He just reversed his stance on off-shore drilling when this incident happened. Now, this would normally be damning circumstantial evidence for me, but he has reversed his stance on just about everything. Obama lied about everything that he stumped for. It would actually be weird if he didn't lie about the off-shore drilling.

Another thing that I find a little troubling, is that BP was drilling so far beneath the the sea-bed. I sure would like to get more information as to why this was and how much we knew about drilling so deep into the sea-floor.

All in all, I find it difficult to believe that this was anything other than negligence on behalf of the government and the corporations involved. Sure, some things are sticking out like a sore thumb, but at this moment in time, I'm inclined to believe that this was stupidity and greed on the part of those involved.

--airspoon

p.s. S&F for the thread, very interesting and very well put together.


[edit on 16-6-2010 by airspoon]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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Hey airspoon, thanks for a great reply!! I've never enjoyed reading a response that doesn't agree with my post so much!!


One of the only retorts that I have is the usual stock response:

The people manipulating and controlling us aren't bothered about you or I, dead riggers, money (they create the money, what do they care!!) or how thay appear.

I thnk all they want to do is control us.

I tried to steer away from the WHY, all I know is, when something like this happens, it's the people that suffer.

I'm thinking oppressive laws involving oil use, prices going sky high making travel etc less accessible to poorer people. Taxes, control and power to the government.

I don't know exactly know how my friend, but I'm sure it will happen!


As far as the things that look suspicious to me, Obama's recent stance reversal on off-shore drilling. He just reversed his stance on off-shore drilling when this incident happened. Now, this would normally be damning circumstantial evidence for me, but he has reversed his stance on just about everything. Obama lied about everything that he stumped for. It would actually be weird if he didn't lie about the off-shore drilling.

Another thing that I find a little troubling, is that BP was drilling so far beneath the the sea-bed. I sure would like to get more information as to why this was and how much we knew about drilling so deep into the sea-floor.


I agree on both my friend.


stupidity and greed


Ah, You mean the human condition mate!!

Thanks again for the reply, it's just nice to get ONE!!!!




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 04:01 PM
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One need look no further than ATS to see the wisdom of this inevitable disaster. I don't need a conspiracy when I recognize common sense. The highly astute ATS Member Someone336 pointed this out back in February in response to one of those idiotic Drill Baby Drill threads.

Amazing bordering on prophetic. Big hat tip.


Originally posted by Someone336
We need a healthier and more sustainable fuel source. The human race isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but oil isn't infinite. Allowing Big Oil into the Gulf of Mexico is going to open the floodgates: in addition to American ventures, BP has professed an interest in the gulf as well as China and other large countries. The gulf will become rapidly crowded as more and more offshore drilling rigs are put up and ocean traffic will increase. The gulf is not clean by any means, but have you looked at the environmental impacts that are caused by offshore drilling?

Here is a chart (source: NASA.gov: Oil Pollution) showing how much oil ends up in the ocean each year:



I know "15" doesn't seem like a lot, but that is 15 million gallons. That number is going to increase exponentially if offshore drilling is allowed in the Gulf. The small coastal towns along the gulf rely on those waters to sustain themselves. I should know, I used to live in one. We can't let the inevitable pollution ruin an ecosystem that an huge swath of American and South American economies are built upon.

Another interesting source: Oil Pollution of the Sea


www.abovetopsecret.com...

He nailed it.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 05:48 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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That's not entirely accurate. While we do drive cars, air condition our homes and enjoy plastics from oil, we have no other viable alternatives. The technology has been around since before you were born, yet TPTB has regulated them out or otherwise prevented you from using a viable alternative.

Take for instance food. If you are locked in a room without food, save for twinkies, would you not consume those twinkies? Then, we you became fat and unhealthy, would you blame yourself for only eating twinkies... or would you blame whoever locked you in the room and only fed you twinkies?

Tell me, how realistic is it that everyone purchase an electric car? Not even close to realistic. Not only are they not mass produced, but the price of them is through the roof because supply doesn't equal demand. We don't even have a big enough supply of hybrid cars to supply the people who actually want them and can afford them, much less everyone else. The funny thing is, electric cars were invented (and popular) in the 19th century, before the combustion engine.

Now, you may say to yourself "self, why don't I just create an electric car if I'm going to b# and moan about nobody creating them" but that is only wishful thinking. As I mentioned earlier, they have been regulated out and the permits and licensing fees and politics behind it would surely keep you out of that business.

Make no mistake about it, we have been kept on oil for a purpose. Certain influences have created policy to ensure that we stay addicted oil, for their benefit and at the planet's and the people's expense.

--airspoon


Edited to add: This BP disaster is the fault of our government and the corporations involved. Not only for this incident, but also for our dependence on oil. This is another reason why it's hard for me to believe that this was done on purpose.

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 07:57 PM
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Airspoon, you have to think in bigger terms about this disaster. Obama was kept in the dark about the Deepwater Horizon just as GW Bush was kept in the dark about 9/11. There are bigger fish in the sea than US presidents, namely the really big money banks and families who pretty run everything on earth.
If say BP were only 5% of your holdings there are other interests who could make more money than a functional well could simply from the fallout of the disaster. Just as they made money by financing wars they do the same with disasters, be they natural or man-made.
I don't think money is the real motivator behind this however. This is about power and destroying the economy of the United States. Removing the world's last superpower creates a whole new playing field of global instability that these people will work to their advantage.
More than ever, people are once again looking to government to "save them" from a catastrophe. People will be more easily led to accept new "environmental" legislation, including cap and trade taxes that failed due to the revelations that Man-made Global warming was a hoax.
They have upped the ante on us. Events like this seemingly make no sense unless you are at the top of the money heap and looking down on the rest of humanity. From that perspective many evils in the world look like opportunities to make money and grab more power. I submit to you that this is what is truly happening right now and that it will get much , much worse before it gets any better.

Throwing out a longshot here: It wouldn't suprise me at all if a similar disaster were to occur in Pacific waters near China or Japan in the near future. They seem to happen in clusters.

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:27 PM
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From my own research into the events of 9/11 (and some of my experiences), I don't believe that GWB was kept in the dark. I think he was very well informed.

Furthermore, TPTB need a superpower to be in control, that way they have something to hide behind. Do they care whether it's the US or some other nation? Absolutely not but it does have to be someone. Without at least one super-power, they have no protection and certainly no anonymouty. They project their power through the super-power/s.

I have actually pondered the thought that Obama and others could have been kept in the dark if this was a deliberate conspiracy and it just isn't, IMO. Of course I'm not saying that it can't be, only that it doesn't seem so from my view-point. In fact, I'm kind of wondering why this didn't happen sooner, as it was bound to happen, given the the carelessness in which BP operated and the sheer amount of profit greedy corporations drilling for oil around the world with any negative financial consequences and/or penal repercussions being slim to none.

--airspoon



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:40 PM
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"While we do drive cars, air condition our homes and enjoy plastics from oil, we have no other viable alternatives."
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Reply by manta78

I do believe it was a conspiracy, and gave the motives and
incentives in another thread on ATS, which I think you read.

We DO now have a new alternative to plastics, which is biodegradable; Plastics consume 10% of our oil production in the U S, and one of these days I hope the MSM will decide its time to announce it to the world. I posted a thread about it here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 16-6-2010 by manta78]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:49 PM
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I was actually responding to the poster above me (before his post was removed), who said that the spill wasn't BP's or the government's fault, rather our fault for choosing to use oil.

I know the technology is out there, I just think it has been kept from us for business reasons.

As far as your thread on the oil spill being deliberate, which thread is that? I believe I've only read one other thread about it and that was maybe a month or so ago.

I'm not saying I'm absolutely sure that it isn't a conspiracy, only that it doesn't look like it, from the information available. It just doesn't make sense for it to be one, IMO.

--airspoon

--airspoon



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 12:19 AM
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Ok. I am amazed that the media is not jumping all over this
regarding the new plastic alternative. I thought the media was
supposed to be green oriented?

The thread I was referring to regarding my conspiracy theory
is here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 12:25 AM
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Perhaps not exactly pre-planned but it does appear people knew something like this could very well happen. I would put it in the same category as 9/11 - either an intentional act or perhaps terrorism they let happen.

If you look at these two video clips you will see some people HAD to know there was a significant risk.

This is one was posted before, it talks about the exact same type of spill happening in 1979:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This one is Beck talking about how the government is going to take over the energy industry due to a series of oil pipeline bombings in Canada.
mediamatters.org...



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by manta78
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"While we do drive cars, air condition our homes and enjoy plastics from oil, we have no other viable alternatives."
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Reply by manta78

I do believe it was a conspiracy, and gave the motives and
incentives in another thread on ATS, which I think you read.

We DO now have a new alternative to plastics, which is biodegradable; Plastics consume 10% of our oil production in the U S, and one of these days I hope the MSM will decide its time to announce it to the world. I posted a thread about it here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 16-6-2010 by manta78]


Hey mate thanks for pointing that out, I somehow missed that when it was first posted!!

All the best, Kiwi



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 03:48 AM
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I have been buying as much silver as I can. Cant afford gold.





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