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What Do The Sears Tower; WTC, and Terror Drills Have In Common?

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Larry Silverstein, owner of Silverstein Properties, Inc. and the man who leased the World Trade Center Towers also happens to be the owner of the Sears Tower in Chicago. The complex was renamed the Willis Tower on July 16, 2009 and is insured by global insurance broker Willis Group Holdings. The insurer is very important in the grand scheme as can be seen with the WTC, whose insurance settlement amounted to a cool 4.68 billion dollars.



A company named Kroll is is the company tasked with providing security for the Sears Tower. After 9/11, Kroll purchased Convair, the very company that was responsible for recovering data from WTC hard drives. Kroll also managed the bunker in the WTC and is known to have had a hand in the London 7/7 bombings.
The Willis Tower just so happens to have an asbestos problem much like the one that plagued the World Trade Center. Contrary to what many claim, there is clear evidence that shows the asbestos problem within the Willis Tower.
Remember that on September 11, 2001, NORAD was conducting a war games drill that simulated planes flying into towers. There is at the very least, a very eerie correlation with the upcoming terror drills that will be conducted in Chicago from June 13 through June 17. This terror drill is slated to be a full scale event carried out over a five day period and will include a simulated airplane crash, terror attack, and the release of a bio weapon.
theintelhub.com...

911 was not caused by and for the reasons we were told. Educate yourself. Goto multiple sites and use your better judgement and heart.

Understand that the internet is littered with trolls and bad guys who are employed or willfully ignorant to argue any discussion which discusses the truth and discussion any concerning 911. These people pose as truthers or pseudo intellects and hang out in these forums all day long attempting to squelch any intelligent discussion.



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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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Ok, time for a little fact check.

There are ALWAYS "terror drills" going on somewhere in this country. Some involve a scenario of a suicide bomber on a bus, others a train, or subway, some involve hijackings, some involve chemical agents being dispersed, or bioattack, or a nuclear or radiological attack. Its called training your emergency assets and preparing for any eventuality of terror attacks. And yes, some invloved a SMALL aircraft, like a Cessna or a Beachcraft hitting or crashing into a building. Remember that whackjob that crashed his Cessna into the White House grounds in 1995? Yes its a rare occurance, and most dont think that it will happen but it has, and may again.

As we saw, NOTHING happened during the terror drills in Chicago. Why should there have been?

How many buildings on this planet have an "asbestos" problem? I'm guessing a lot. So are the "evil powers" going to go and blow them all up as well?


Did you ever see how much money LS actually LOST during the WTC attacks? he has to pay $120 MILLION a year in lease payments (and its been what, 9 years, with a hole in the ground) $120 million X 9 years?
and then there are the costs of REBUILDING on the sight, which LS is obligated to do under his lease deal. He must pay $1 billion at least to get the "Freedom Tower" built, but it will cost about $3 billion to fully build it. (And thats not counting the cost overruns, delays, etc etc etc). He also had to shell out $700 million to rebuild WTC7. Another $504 million to furnish the interior of the New WTC7. Another $1.4 BILLION to repair the Verizon Building that was damaged by the collapses of the WTC.

So lets roughly tally up the amount LS has "earned" himself on 9/11:

$4.6 billion awarded by the insurance claims
- ($120 million X 9) - $1.4 billion - $1 billion - $700 million - $504 million = $ 1.316 billion
But lets add in the $9 BILLION (I think it includes the price tag for the Freedom Tower as well) it will cost to fully rebuild the WTC site:

that comes up to: -$7,684,000,000

So no, Larry did not get a great deal, and that hole in the ground in NYC is just sucking away $120 million a year until its rebuilt.

Wow now thats business smarts.


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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by Shadow Herder
 


Ok, time for a little fact check.

There are ALWAYS "terror drills" going on somewhere in this country. Some involve a scenario of a suicide bomber on a bus, others a train, or subway, some involve hijackings.........


Now say that during one of these 'drills' it actually happens. Planes hit the targets, suicide bombs go off in the subway, planes get hijacked......


What would you say then? Any half wit can see that the drills were used as cover to execute the attack which is the case on September 11 2001 as military professionals, world leaders and the people involved in the drills all claim.








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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Any half wit would see that the drills were used as cover to execute the attack which is the case on September 11 2001.



Yep.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

It indeed takes a half wit to see that.




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Joey Canoli

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Any half wit would see that the drills were used as cover to execute the attack which is the case on September 11 2001.



Yep.

Couldn't have said it better myself.



Not to mention the officials who stated that the drills were used to inhibit a response to stop the attack and that they were indeed used to allow the attack to see its completion.

The mock hijacking, terror drills were used to execute the attack for most of the people that made it happen believed it was all part of the exercise.

What would you say if during a bank robbery exercise conducted by ERT or SWAT the bank was actually robbed?



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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Now say that during one of these 'drills' it actually happens. Planes hit the targets, suicide bombs go off in the subway, planes get hijacked......


What would you say then? Any half wit can see that the drills were used as cover to execute the attack which is the case on September 11 2001 as military professionals, world leaders and the people involved in the drills all claim.




My response? So what? The laws of probability would govern that there is a chance that a terrorist attack can happen during a regular terrorist drill. Now as to the scale of the drill: it can just be either a small-scale one office scenario with a few key people and agents and a computer or on paper; it can be a larger scale drill with multiple agencies working together to see how inter-agency protocalls can handle an event, with a script; it can be a large scale event with actors, props, and many agenecies with hundreds of people. Most of the drills are the small scale ones invloving one agency or two, and a few people. Thats it. They also train for plane crashes, train crashes, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes, asteriods, tornadoes, hurricanes......... So if the emergency response planners are conducting an earthquake response drill in LA, and it just so happens an earthquake strikes leveling half the city, THAT should be suspect and evidence of someone using the drill as a cover for the actual earthquake?


There are drills being run almost every day. For an attack to occur on any particular day where they are running a drill, its all due to probability.

And FYI, the drill on 9/11 involved a SMALL plane, like a Cessna. NOT Four hijacked boeings impacting three large buildings and one into the ground.

And how many people knew there were "mock" drills going on on 9/11? Certainly not the New Yorkers, or those civilians in DC. The moment the first aircraft struck the first tower, it was obvious its not some "drill". People are not that stupid or naive.

If a bank was having a mock exercise with a fake bank heist, and a group of heavily armed robbers show up and shoot and kill 5 officers on the spot within a second of arrival, then blow up the vault to get inside, then murder four more hostages, I dont think others will believe that its just a part of the "drill".



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by GenRadek

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Now say that during one of these 'drills' it actually happens. Planes hit the targets, suicide bombs go off in the subway, planes get hijacked......


What would you say then? Any half wit can see that the drills were used as cover to execute the attack which is the case on September 11 2001 as military professionals, world leaders and the people involved in the drills all claim.




My response? So what? The laws of probability would govern that there is a chance that a terrorist attack can happen during a regular terrorist drill.


If I were to be so ignorant I too would be content with such a lame claim but we live in reality and reality is where I live. Passing off such an important fact as 'coincidence' is lame fantasy you hope people will embrace but sadly for you it is nowhere near the truth.








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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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As have pointed out before, all crimes come down to MEANS, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY.

99% of all "Truthers" go seriously wrong by making gross assumtions that really don't stack up. One of the biggest is that only the US Government could have done this. THis is utterly groundless.

In actuality, n the basis of MEANS, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY, it could have been done (and, almost certainly was) by a group of ciroiratuins using ONLY private facilities and those that they either hihacked into use or stole from the state.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by airvicemarshal
As have pointed out before, all crimes come down to MEANS, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY.


Your right! The people in question (not middle eastern terrorists) did have the means ( they are the intelligence agencies planning the drills), Motive ( to hurt American's, make billions in wars and defense contracts), and Opportunity ( initiate the terrorist attacks while the nation was busy doing war game terrorism/hijacking drills)



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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I guess making fun of the OP kinda backfires horribly when you come up against the facts eh?
it is all state sponsered terrorism


State Department Admits: Detroit Christmas Bomber Was Deliberately Allowed to Keep US Entry Visa, Board His Flight


Webster G. Tarpley

February 11, 2010

The Detroit Christmas bomber was deliberately and intentionally allowed to keep his US entry visa as the result of a national security override issued by an as yet unknown US intelligence or law-enforcement agency with the goal of blocking the State Department’s planned revocation of that visa. This is the result of hearings held on January 27 before the House Homeland Security Committee, and in particular of the testimony of Patrick F. Kennedy, Undersecretary of State for Management. The rickety US government official version of the December 25 Detroit underwear bomber incident, which has been jerry-built over the past month and a half, has now totally collapsed, and key elements of the terrorism-spawning rogue network inside US agencies and departments are unusually vulnerable to a determined campaign of exposure.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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London subway bombings was a terror drill turned real

www.youtube.com...

the sub contracter who ran the drill came right out and said he was totally stuned thet the bombings happened exactly like the drill.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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here is another example
remember how Chaeney refused to recind the stand down orderwhen in the bunker during 911 according to the testimony of Norm Mineta the secretary of transportation?
thats common knowledge even in antarctica

that alone really makes the OPs point

anyhow here is a batch of related nfo
events that happened during drills


The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs in London was running it with control centres in Bury St Edmunds, Leeds, Cardiff and Gloucester," states the article.

"It also involved the Association of Chief Police Officers, the Environment Agency, Downing Street, the Ministry of Defence, and other government departments."

The drill revolved around a scenario where bird flu was discovered in two places in England and one in Wales.

Why is this important to note?

Staged-managed manufactured crises are always paralleled by drills of the same nature. This provides culpable deniability if any government agency is caught with their hands in the cookie jar. They can say it was just part of the drill.



Obviously, other organizations like the RSPCA and farming groups would have no knowledge of what the drill is really intended to achieve and at this stage it is just a coincidence. However, if the crisis were to escalate causing Blair's government to start restricting the movement of people then more serious questions would need to be asked. If the next three cases of bird flu popped up in Norfolk, south Wales and northern England, the same places as in the drill, then this would turn into a smoking gun.

A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th. The statistical probability of these two events coinciding was astronomical. The exercises provided cover in case government involvement in the attacks was proven, although after this website first brought wide attention to the drills on July 13th, that culpable deniability vanished.

Wargames running on the morning of 9/11 simulated planes crashing into high visibility buildings on the US east coast. These drills were enough to confuse air traffic controllers about the real world nature of the actual hijacked planes thereby slowing response times and enabling them to find their targets. In addition the exercises also provided culpable deniability.

Though a bird flu outbreak is in a different league to terrorist bombings, the outcome will eventually be very similar in terms of emergency police state measures rushed through to respond to the situation.

For those who doubt the veracity of a British government plot to once again eviscerate the livelihoods of farmers (the biggest power block opposing Blair) in an act of 'Agraterrorism', just consider the fact that a vial of the Foot and Mouth virus was supposedly 'stolen' from Porton Down bio-weapons facility before the 2001 outbreak took place. The Sunday Express reported that it was released deliberately and could have possibly been the source of the outbreak two months later.

The Foot and Mouth disease spread like wildfire throughout the country as many accused the government of not doing nearly enough to contain it and the spring of 2001 in England was characterized by apocalyptic images of burning pyres (pictured above) dotted all over the countryside as over four million animals were slaughtered.

Coupled with reports of the government making inquiries to timber merchants and sign makers (before closing public footpaths), it is inconceivable that an animal rights activist, as we are led to believe, could have penetrated a level 4 bio-weapons facility that also houses anthrax and ebola and is protected by armed guards of the Ministry of Defence Police and the Military Provost Guard Service. The individual who stole the vial must have had full security clearance to enter the facility. Why would an animal rights activist release a virus that would kill four million animals?

Patricia Doyle, PhD also reported that Foot and Mouth exercises were being run by the British government immediately before the outbreak was made public.

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:10 PM
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Thank you very much Danbones for your contributions of the facts. The information you provided is vital to understanding the the events of that fateful day.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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If it destroys this demonic masonic circus carnival called the United States of Antichrist... and disables all those ridiculous iPhones 89% of the citizens are addicted to, I am all for it. Stop the Vanity Insanity, Besides...we need an event...it has been rather boring since 911

Let the drills begin



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:50 PM
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"Did you ever see how much money LS actually LOST during the WTC attacks? he has to pay $120 MILLION a year in lease payments (and its been what, 9 years, with a hole in the ground) $120 million X 9 years? and then there are the costs of REBUILDING on the sight, which LS is obligated to do under his lease deal. He must pay $1 billion at least to get the "Freedom Tower" built, but it will cost about $3 billion to fully build it. (And thats not counting the cost overruns, delays, etc etc etc). He also had to shell out $700 million to rebuild WTC7. Another $504 million to furnish the interior of the New WTC7. Another $1.4 BILLION to repair the Verizon Building that was damaged by the collapses of the WTC."

Yeah, let me shed a tear for him. Why doesn't he have insurance for those $120M per year lease payments? Any moron with his kind of cash would have insurance for this amount of payments. Why is he paying $1 Billion for the Freedom Tower? It's not his building; he only leases the space. He paid $500M to furnish the interior of a building? What did he furnish it with diamonds? Why is he paying $1.4 Billion out his pocket to repair the Verizon Building? Didn't his liability carrier cover this?

Your claims are suspect to say the least.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 06:44 AM
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If the drill is used to sucker some participants into carrying out their part of the plan, then why do they not afterwards protest this fact? Where are the soldiers, airmen and civil aviation workers coming forward and protesting that they were confused by the drill? Or worse that they carried out illegal parts of the plans thinking they were participating in the drill?

You guys love these "drills" because they seem in some trivial way "coincidental" and "suspicious". But if you stop to consider for a second they're a bit like the BBC report of building seven. Pointless for the conspirators and therefore hardly likely to be evidence of conspiracy.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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Oh Sphinx, did you even bother to read the two, TWO articles I posted right under that directly talked about what LS has to do with the property? I mean geeze, you guys rant on and on about "doing research" and junk, and yet you couldnt lift your finger and click on the two links I provided that would have answered your question and your "sources"? But no, instead you ignored or skipped the two links. Well here is how you can save face: Go back to my post, click on the first link. READ IT. Then click on the second link. READ IT. And then if you have any questions, feel free to ask, if you didnt understand any parts of the two. Oh, and one more thing, be sure to COMPREHEND what you read in the two articles.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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Boston Air Traffic Controller Says 9/11 An Inside Job
Knew people in FAA on day of hijackings who said intercept procedures should have been enacted as normal
www.prisonplanet.com...

"Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, December 14, 2006

A former Boston Center air traffic controller has gone public on his assertion that 9/11 was an inside job and that Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon tracked three of the four flights from the point of their hijacking to hitting their targets. In an astounding telephone interview, Robin Hordon claims air traffic controllers have been ignored or silenced to protect the true perpetrators of 9/11.

A recording of the phone conversation was posted on Google video late yesterday by the Pilots For 9/11 Truth organization.

After having acquired a background in aviation, Hordon underwent rigorous FAA training to become an air traffic controller and was posted to Boston Center where he worked for eleven years. He did not work at Boston Center when 9/11 occurred but still knows people that did who concur with his conclusions. In comparing the stand down of air defense on 9/11 and what should have occurred according to standard operating procedure, he quickly concluded on the very afternoon of the attacks that they could represent nothing other than an inside job.

"On September 11th I'm one of the few people who really within quite a few hours of the whole event taking place just simply knew that it was an inside job, and it wasn't because of the visuals, the collapses, whatever....I knew that it was an inside job I think within about four or five o'clock that afternoon and the reason that I knew is because when those aircraft did collide and then we got the news and information on where the aircraft were and where they went....if they knew where the aircraft were and were talking to them at a certain time then normal protocol is to get fighter jet aircraft up assist," said Hordon."


any more bright ideas ?





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posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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Hordon didn't work at Boston Centre on 9/11?

Which ATC centre was he working at?



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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from the source:


He did not work at Boston Center when 9/11 occurred


Whoops! He wasnt there! So how can someone who does not work there know exactly what was going on "for real"?


EDIT To add: Oh but he "knows people" that "know" what's "going on". And yet he provides, NO PROOF, NO NAMES, NOTHING we can look into, just a classic: I dont know, but I know a guy who knows a guy that thinks he knows what really happened. Yeah thats really credible there.
My only wish is that the TM would scrutinize their "sources" and "evidence" as harshly as they do to anything the debunkers bring forward.

Although what this little article does show is that there are crackpots in all fields, professional and non-professional.

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