How can we get our military to forcibly remove Obama from office?

reply to post by I_am_Spartacus




Well, what do you expect? All you did is post a long right wing goofy rant.
it amounts to, you really hate Obama. Why argues with someone like you?
So what?

Originally posted by justadood
Our education system has bred people to believe this crap? That encouraging a MILITARY COUP is somehow beneficial to America?

GTFOH.

NO!!, its "bred" people to believe the lies of a smooth talking Jack a$$ , and that even a criminal who was elected by an illiterate public, should be allowed to remain as such to continue his destruction, just because he was elected. Hugo Chavez was elected also.......

Oh dragger, I know you are talking, but I can't hear you! .

[edit on 19-6-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
all I hear are crickets...........

What did you want to hear?

Are you just looking for applause?

You are suggesting that the military take my democratic voice away from me and make a decision FOR me about who should lead this country. Sorry, homes. Dont work that way. There is no other term for it than military coup, unless you count just plain ignorant as something to call this idea. If you want to live somewhere that the leader is chosen by the loudest guy with the most guns, I have a short list I can give you. This is my America and you are suggesting that one side of the political spectrum use an armed force to make a decision for the other half. Obama or Bush, your idea is against anything good and right.

reply to post by I_am_Spartacus


Here's a cricket, for ya...

You can quote all you want from you tube, or any other source you care to come up with...

It is not the military's place to make these decisions...at all. Not on their own hook. What part of this are you having trouble understanding? If, and it's a remote if, a recall/impeachment were to be carried forth to it's conclusion, and the President, who is only one man after all, were to refuse to step down, and the Secret Service/FBI/any other govt civilian criminal investigative/enforcement agency were, for some unfathomable reason, to side with him, then maybe, just maybe, the military might get involved. But only in a support role. As the sole arbiter of "treasonous behaviour"? Forgeddaboutit.

reply to post by I_am_Spartacus


Oh dragger, I know you are talking, but I can't hear you! .

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Fine, not interested in "debate". There is nothing to debate. All you have done is listed a bunch of garbage rationizations as to why you think you, and the military have some fictitious "right" to remove a sitting President simply because you don't like his politics!!
Nothing to debate! YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT! Get that through your right wing authoritarian brain! No matter how you SPIN IT, ( and that's all you are doing), IT"s TREASON!

[edit on 20-6-2010 by OldDragger]

Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by I_am_Spartacus

 

Here's a cricket, for ya...

You can quote all you want from you tube, or any other source you care to come up with...

It is not the military's place to make these decisions...at all. Not on their own hook. What part of this are you having trouble understanding? If, and it's a remote if, a recall/impeachment were to be carried forth to it's conclusion, and the President, who is only one man after all, were to refuse to step down, and the Secret Service/FBI/any other govt civilian criminal investigative/enforcement agency were, for some unfathomable reason, to side with him, then maybe, just maybe, the military might get involved. But only in a support role. As the sole arbiter of "treasonous behaviour"? Forgeddaboutit.

Just like I said, no amount of evidence, not even the words directly out of the jack A$$es own mouths can persuade the obambots of their dear leaders TRUE intentions.

No trouble understanding anything, its you who aren't getting it. The military has sworn an oath, if the president happens to be the domestic enemy, then it is the military's job to protect the Constitution from even the president, PERIOD!!!!!!

If you are still supporting obama by ignoring the evidence, then you are not responsible enough to have ever voted for him in the first place. If you voted for him because you want socialism, then your vote should be null and void, this isn't a democracy, its a REPUBLIC!!!

[edit on 20-6-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
Just like I said, no amount of evidence, not even the words directly out of the jack A$$es own mouths can persuade the obambots of their dear leaders TRUE intentions.

No trouble understanding anything, its you who aren't getting it. The military has sworn an oath, if the president happens to be the domestic enemy, then it is the military's job to protect the Constitution from even the president, PERIOD!!!!!!

Let's try this another way. Go through it with me, step by step.

Who decides that the president is an enemy of the constitution to begin with?

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
Just like I said, no amount of evidence, not even the words directly out of the jack A$$es own mouths can persuade the obambots of their dear leaders TRUE intentions.

No trouble understanding anything, its you who aren't getting it. The military has sworn an oath, if the president happens to be the domestic enemy, then it is the military's job to protect the Constitution from even the president, PERIOD!!!!!!

Let's try this another way. Go through it with me, step by step.

Who decides that the president is an enemy of the constitution to begin with?

The people who actually understand the Constitution and know its not a living document. Those who understand the original intentions of our Founding Fathers. NOT those who get their history lessons from Jon Stewart, their 6th grade history textbooks written by progressives like obama, or from the History channel. That means at least half the population who are as you would call "tea baggers", at least half the population that sees what he is doing and wants him stopped NOW!!!

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
The people who actually understand the Constitution and know its not a living document. Those who understand the original intentions of our Founding Fathers. NOT those who get their history lessons from Jon Stewart, their 6th grade history textbooks written by progressives like obama, or from the History channel. That means at least half the population who are as you would call "tea baggers", at least half the population that sees what he is doing and wants him stopped NOW!!!

I am asking a real question. What kind of answer is this? Most textbooks used in the US are written in Texas and have more fundamental and conservative twists but anyway...

WHO??????????

I need a name, a group, a real answer. We are discussing your plan that the rest of us are too slow to understand so I am indulging you. I am smart as a pile of rocks. I need all kinds of answers to fill the void that is my Jon Stewart rotten brain. ok?

So let me ask again, WHO will decide that the president is an enemy of the constitution. If you cannot come up with an answer, I can only take that as you realizing this quickly how wrong your idea is.

So...

Who?

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
The people who actually understand the Constitution and know its not a living document. Those who understand the original intentions of our Founding Fathers. NOT those who get their history lessons from Jon Stewart, their 6th grade history textbooks written by progressives like obama, or from the History channel. That means at least half the population who are as you would call "tea baggers", at least half the population that sees what he is doing and wants him stopped NOW!!!

I am asking a real question. What kind of answer is this? Most textbooks used in the US are written in Texas and have more fundamental and conservative twists but anyway...

WHO??????????

I need a name, a group, a real answer. We are discussing your plan that the rest of us are too slow to understand so I am indulging you. I am smart as a pile of rocks. I need all kinds of answers to fill the void that is my Jon Stewart rotten brain. ok?

So let me ask again, WHO will decide that the president is an enemy of the constitution. If you cannot come up with an answer, I can only take that as you realizing this quickly how wrong your idea is.

So...

Who?

I answered the questions, you don't like the answers, and no, the more YOU talk, the more I see how right I am. Talk to the hand, I am done with you.

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
I answered the questions, you don't like the answers, and no, the more YOU talk, the more I see how right I am. Talk to the hand, I am done with you.

Sigh.

So you are not even really serious about any of this? All this just for a joke? That is kind of sad. It was not even funny. Too bad I fell for it. I thought you really had some idea, somewhere back there but apparently nothing but bluster. You have this master plan that is too clever for the rest of us but you have no clue even where to begin. Got it.

Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
If you are still supporting obama by ignoring the evidence, then you are not responsible enough to have ever voted for him in the first place. If you voted for him because you want socialism, then your vote should be null and void, this isn't a democracy, its a REPUBLIC!!!

Whether or not Obama is a socialist or a communist or whatever he might be, it is not in fact illegal in this country to be these things and it isn't possible to bar someone from serving in office for professing these beliefs. It's also not possible to bar someone from voting or having their votes counted because they are a socialist a communist, nor even a fascist or any other sort of "ist."

We have one democratic socialist Senator currently serving in Congress, Bernie Sanders of Vermont. You may not like it, but that's how it is. If it is the will of the good people of Vermont that they should have their voice in the Senate be represented by an avowed democratic socialist, so be it. Now they have their say and if others wish the same in other states, that's how it will be.

I understand how one could and should get angry if they should find the politician they voted for, who professed belief in one thing turned out to be something else. That's what the next election cycle is for, to get them out of office if you don't like it. But it's still doesn't make it illegal to be any of the things you have accused Obama of being.

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[edit on 6/21/2010 by LifeInDeath]

Originally posted by OldDragger
reply to post by I_am_Spartacus

 

Oh dragger, I know you are talking, but I can't hear you! .

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Fine, not interested in "debate". There is nothing to debate. All you have done is listed a bunch of garbage rationizations as to why you think you, and the military have some fictitious "right" to remove a sitting President simply because you don't like his politics!!
Nothing to debate! YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT RIGHT! Get that through your right wing authoritarian brain!

No matter how you SPIN IT, ( and that's all you are doing), IT"s TREASON!

[edit on 20-6-2010 by OldDragger]

On other words one can list all the evidence and even statements from the traitors mouths themselves and quote all the law and congressional acts etcetera proving treason and a host of high crimes and you'll just ignore it all in favor if blind ignorant devotion to your emotional attachment to lies and fraud devoid of all logic and reason and devoid of any objective desire for truth your ideals are based on... Ok got it!...Sigh!

reply to post by hawkiye


Hilarious!
Traitorous!
You simpletons can't grasp even basic reality. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT, NOR DOES THE MILITARY TO OVERTHROW THE PRESIDENT!
Plain and simple! If you have evidence to impeach, present it to Congress.
FACT IS, you don't, you are simply far right wing reactionary Constitutional FUNDAMENTALISTS!
Just substitute the word "Bible" for Constitution and your primitive thought process is clear!
I've heard your stupid "the commies are coming" BS since the mid 60's.
IT'S idiocy, just like your make believe reasoning, your theories
and your rationalizing! What is real is your authoritarian, anti freedom cowardice, your crazy look under the bed for reds paranoia! Just because there is a Democrat in office!THAT'S LITERALLY INSANE!!!!!!!!
Bye bye!

[edit on 21-6-2010 by OldDragger]

[edit on 21-6-2010 by OldDragger]

reply to post by I_am_Spartacus


What are his plans? Seriously. Where have they been written down on paper? In his own words, not the taken out of context verbiage from the right wing pundits.

I didn't vote for the guy. Nor will I. Comes to that, I didn't vote for McCain, either.

So neither Obamabot, nor McCainbot...yet oddly enough, still not in favor of a military coup. Call me all the names you wish, won't change the fact any.

You don't like the guy? Fine. Neither do I. He's got no business in the Oval Office, on that we're agreed. Yet, guess what? He was fairly elected by the majority of Americans.

GET THE HELL OVER IT!

You want him out of office? Get a better set of candidates next time. Overturning almost two centuries of Republican style govt. just because you don't like the guy? A bit arrogant, don't you think?

On the constitutional end. Still haven't shown me where in the Constitution the military has the authority to overthrow a constitutionally elected govt. Care to take a stab at that yet?

[edit on 6/21/2010 by seagull]

Originally posted by seagull
reply to post by I_am_Spartacus

 

You want him out of office? Get a better set of candidates next time. Overturning almost two centuries of Republican style govt. just because you don't like the guy? A bit arrogant, don't you think?

On the constitutional end. Still haven't shown me where in the Constitution the military has the authority to overthrow a constitutionally elected govt. Care to take a stab at that yet?

[edit on 6/21/2010 by seagull]

I will say it one more LAST time, r e a l s l o w l i k e s o y o u a l l c a n u d e r s t a n d i t....

It would not be an overthrow, it would be a RESTORATION, the only one overthrowing anything is obama and his radical hippie wanna be's.

Its not in the Constitution, its in the oath they swore, its in the Declaration of the Independence, its in the words of the Founding Fathers, but AGAIN, that would take some extrapolation and reasoning skills to make the "leap of faith" that they SHOULD do it, that it would be the right thing, their DUTY to stop the Democratic Socialist takeover.

The POS POTUS and the congress swore the same oath, if they ignore that responsibility by actually undermining the Constitution,, then they are traitors!!!!!!!!!!! IF the constitution is being disregarded, circumvented, or abandoned by ANYONE including the POTUS and/or members of the congress, then it is the Military's DUTY to protect the Constitution and its Position as supreme rule of law, from said traitors.

Maybe I need to be more specific for you lunk heads. The military would not RULE the country, they would REMOVE the traitors allowing for new elections. It may be drastic, but drastic actions by the enemy requires drastic countermeasures. They are not going to change the system, they are going to PROTECT the system from those trying to destroy it. GOT IT???

No , I am sure you haven't , that would be out of character.

I have nothing more to say. I would say see you on the battlefield but your side doesn't like guns, so it will probably be over in a matter of hours. At least when all is said and done, we will hopefully be rid of the disease , leftlibturdorrhea.

[edit on 21-6-2010 by I_am_Spartacus]

Your military is owned by those who do not give a damn for the USA. Expecting the military to remove this President is simply wrong.

In the USA it is the CIA that remove Presidents. So just as the CIA removed John F. Kennedy, you want them to do the same to Obama?

Spend some time and think it through. Is that really what some of you want?

I hope upon reflexion, you will cast aside this thought and put your energy into something useful ... like getting people elected to Congress who are not Republicans or Democrats.

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reply to post by I_am_Spartacus

It would not be an overthrow, it would be a RESTORATION, the only one overthrowing anything is obama and his radical hippie wanna be's.

Restoration? Isn't that the phraseology that many right wing military juntas in South America, or Asia use? Or words to that effect? Usually followed closely by "new elections will be held in the [nebulous] future, as the situation is controlled." Or words to that effect. Those are usually followed closely by firing squads, mass disappearances, torture, and other fun things like that.

Elections fairly held...good.

Military juntas illegally overthrowing govts...bad.

w a s t h a t s l o w e n o u g h f o r y o u ?

Are you kidding?!?!? This is not russia. This is not China. This is a country wherein a president is voted for and is allowed to serve his term, unless he breaks the law. Its not against the law to be impotent. Thats what congress is for.