Help ATS with a contribution via PayPal:
learn more

Obama Uses Gulf Oil Spill for Energy Agenda Push

page: 2
9
<< 1    3  4 >>

log in

join

posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:57 AM
link   
reply to post by lpowell0627
 



Good. Then you pay for it.


What is wrong with you people!?!?!?

Is everything about money?


However, it is possible to do this while generating jobs, furthering technology, and increasing consumer spending.

Of course it is, I have no doubt of that. Let's hope that is what happens.




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:05 AM
link   
With unemployment rates where they are, money is quite important.

When you can't find jobs that aren't tied to government and unions because it cost too much money to companies to hire, its a serious problem.

The only reason that umployment is listed at 8% is because so many people out of work just gave up and stopped looking. Their benefits ran out, and are no longer tracked and tied to the "unemployment rate"

The next generation coming in (ages 18-27) the number of people currently NOT working (note: not "unemployed" in the sense of receiving unemployment) is nearly 40%. College students can't even get summer jobs at your supermarkets, delis, retail stores, etc. because those out of work, severely overqualified to work as a store clerk or stockboy, cashier, whatever, are taking those $8/hour jobs to squeak by.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by SlasherOfVeils]

[edit on 16-6-2010 by SlasherOfVeils]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:09 AM
link   
Like T. Boone Pickens said on Larry King Live last night:

When is the best time to plant a tree?

Answer: Twenty years ago.

If you didn't plant it 20 years ago, then the best time to plant it is:

Today.




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:11 AM
link   
Well is official Obama today is again pushing the Energy reformbut he is actually concentrating on the very unpopular consumer tax gouging cap and trade, so once again is not about pushing jobs and helping the environment but helping the pockets of those that will benefit with the cap and trade new taxes.

I like to call the cap and trade, crap and scape.

We all know what good free trade has done to the nation and the unemployment so far.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:16 AM
link   
well we have been saying round here
that he was going to push the crap and degrade
carbon tax agenda
green ecomomy
if he did that would be proof of the AGENDA concept

look out for the things that go with that

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:26 AM
link   
How much Cap and trade will cost American tax payer, beside pushing more companies to leave US and with that comes yet, more unemployment.

For the strap tax payer that is facing lower incomes, unemployment and destitution this cap and trade is nothing but another drop on the bucket, along with the incoming mandatory health care reform.

Obama Admin: Cap And Trade Could Cost Families $1,761 A Year, and that is just a "government number" that we know how misleading the tend to be


The Obama administration has privately concluded that a cap and trade law would cost American taxpayers up to $200 billion a year, the equivalent of hiking personal income taxes by about 15 percent.

A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration's estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.


This bill is about taxing Americans to death.



One reason the bill faces an uncertain future is concern about its cost. House Republican Leader John Boehner has estimated the additional tax bill would be at $366 billion a year, or $3,100 a year per family. Democrats have pointed to estimates from MIT's John Reilly, who put the cost at $800 a year per family, and noted that tax credits to low income households could offset part of the bite. The Heritage Foundation says that, by 2035, "the typical family of four will see its direct energy costs rise by over $1,500 per year."


How much increases in taxes to expect?



Because personal income tax revenues bring in around $1.37 trillion a year, a $200 billion additional tax would be the equivalent of a 15 percent increase a year. A $100 billion additional tax would represent a 7 or 8 percent increase a year.


That is what Obama energy agenda is all about.

Never trust a corporate government

www.cbsnews.com...



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:32 AM
link   
reply to post by marg6043
 


Thank God I make less than 250k per year so this will not affect me per Obama's campaign promise, right?



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:37 AM
link   
reply to post by marg6043
 



I think you really hit the head on the nail there
Alberta Canada ( the tar sands) would be the place to move to
beverly
hills that is
swimming pools
movie stars....
think I just might do that before the prices
go all coo coo there


[edit on 16-6-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:41 AM
link   
reply to post by Anjin
 


That is my answer to you, you know why? because in America the burden of the debt will always fall in the dying middle class, with the next coming HCR you and I regular people are to pay for everybody else because those that have millions and billions keep their money outside the US.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:43 AM
link   
reply to post by Danbones
 


Well, but hiding this tax increases under the banner of (clean energy and environmentally good) people are falling for it, but they have not clue of the price tag that comes with it.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:50 AM
link   

Because the dead zone is an annual occurrence, there’s no media feeding frenzy over it, even though the average annual size of these hypoxic zones has been about 6,600 square miles over the last five years, and they are driven by bipartisan federal agriculture, trade, and energy policies.

Indeed, as Steven Hayward notes in the current Weekly Standard, if policymakers continue to pursue biofuels in response to the current anti-fossil-fuel craze, these dead zones will get a lot bigger every year. A 2008 study by the National Academy of Sciences found that adhering to corn-based ethanol targets will increase the size of the dead zone by as much as 34 percent.


article.nationalreview.com...

Ethanol production steals precious land to produce inefficient fuel inefficiently (making food more scarce and expensive for the poor).

Obama Camp Closely Linked With Ethanol
www.nytimes.com...


BP, joined by Enron, invented carbon cap-and-trade in the mid-1990s. Yeah. That cap-and-trade.

I know, because I was in the room.

And BP has been lobbying for it aggressively and at great expense ever since, some eight figures of which has gone to green pressure groups.

Specifically, in May 1997 I met with senior officials from BP, Niagara Mohawk Power, and others… “others” like the Union of Concerned Scientists and their ilk… in the Washington offices of a white-shoe New York law firm, putting our collective heads together strategizing on how to get the U.S. roped into a global warming treaty, and get “cap-and-trade” imposed domestically, too.

You can read some great internal Enron memos about this effort they led in partnership with BP at the Master Resource website, run by Enron refugee and frustrated internal whistleblower Rob Bradley. One particularly illuminating montage, including with links, is found here.

Read more: dailycaller.com...


Obama pushes energy-climate bill in oil spill speech
news.cnet.com...

Obama biggest recipient of BP cash
www.politico.com...


BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.

Read more: www.politico.com...


I still believe this was NO accident, and if by chance it was, Obama used it to further his agenda.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:58 AM
link   
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 



Thanks my friend for information, I tell you, never let a crisis go to waste, our nations government has a very open to those that wants to see agenda when it comes to misleading the public.

Is those that close their eyes the ones that falls for the lies.

In a corporate government the people are always the losers, many people still doesn't get it.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 01:06 PM
link   
I dont really like the government;
But I think the message about pushing for clean energy is actually a good thing



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 01:17 PM
link   

Originally posted by Merigold

We were reminded again of how our nation needs a transition to clean energy


OMG no. You mean America might actually start trying to wean herself off the oil additiction which is crippling her?

In the short term it WILL be expensive and some of that expense should come out of our pockets, for the common good not just of America, but the whole planet.


Go ask spain how well that worked out for them.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:05 PM
link   
reply to post by SupremeKnowledge
 


Yes it does, but in our nation is all lies, to hide the agendas behind the so call energy reform, it only means more taxes for you your family and your unborn children that will have to deal with the debt that is passed over by all administrations in government.

Read the post I did on how much is going to cost for you and me to enrich the pockets or those behind the scam of cap and trade.

Because Cap and trade is a scam.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:10 PM
link   
Probably a good time for POTUS to invoke some new regs on the Oilmen. Never hurts for a Politician to follow public opinion....most of the public would like to see BP Execs hanging from trees.....Potus has yet to go that far yet..much to my chagrin!



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:15 PM
link   
reply to post by realmatrix
 


Is not going to happen, money will do the job, keeping peoples mouth closed that is the way of corporate corruption.

The whole deal behind the BP spill is to push just one thing and that is cap and trade.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:19 PM
link   

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by realmatrix
 


Is not going to happen, money will do the job, keeping peoples mouth closed that is the way of corporate corruption.

The whole deal behind the BP spill is to push just one thing and that is cap and trade.



Cap and Trade is not going to pass....even with the Gulf Oilpacolypse Harry Reid does not have the votes to even bring it to the floor. We'll see though!



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:21 PM
link   
reply to post by realmatrix
 


I hope you are right, I hope very much, but already President Obama is catching on the moment and is gearing congress to take the issue in the coming weeks.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:21 PM
link   

Originally posted by empireofpain

Originally posted by Merigold

We were reminded again of how our nation needs a transition to clean energy


OMG no. You mean America might actually start trying to wean herself off the oil additiction which is crippling her?

In the short term it WILL be expensive and some of that expense should come out of our pockets, for the common good not just of America, but the whole planet.


Go ask spain how well that worked out for them.


Go ask Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark how green energy has worked for them. Spain is not the only country that has embraced green energy. The failures of one country does not mean all countries have failed.

The president should be using this to push for green energy. The sooner we get stop using fossil fuels for everything, the sooner we can break the chains to the middle east.





new topics

top topics



 
9
<< 1    3  4 >>

log in

join