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Why did God leave so early?

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 05:11 AM
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I hope my title is not miss leading. Early tonight I was thinking to myself where is God in the world? Since God want's people to follow him. What was the last time in the Bible/Quran when God was on the Earth and interacted with people? That would be during when Adam and Eve were on the Earth, including Cain and Able. God is in the Garden of Eden interacting with the animals and Adam and Eve. As well when Cain and Able were offering their offerings. After the first recorded murder in the Bible. God seems to leave the Earth and interact with people through Angels and vocally. What caused God to do this? Is it possible God has a phobia against sin? What are you guys views on this issue?




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 05:15 AM
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I think planet earth is the literal hell from the bible, ad the devil runs planet earth. The entity we know as the devil runs this planet, as far as i am concerned. Humans are way too stup1d to have run a planet like this.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 05:19 AM
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I think the god of the bible is just a bunch of aliens.

The actual creator of existence and life probably doesn't interfere.
It is for man to reach out to god and not god to reach out to man.

What would the point of our existence be if we were to just follow god?
We must play the game he has created us and move out into space, extend our existence and become closer to god.

But, in line with your question. It is a good question, why doesn't god talk to people now like he used to? Some claim he does, but you can see how far that gets anyone these days..

Just my personal ideas...



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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Then why God be in the picture? I believe in Judaism concept of Satan more. Where Satan is more of a tempter then a powerful demon. He is still a Angel doing God's command. But still what promoted God to leave the Earth so fast?
Another ATS member told me the Nephilim were God's chosen people before the flood. Hence the title Son's of God. "The Nephilim are not angels, aliens, reptilians or Annunaki.
Anyone that has fully read the Bible and understands it know the Nephilim are just God's chosen people before the flood. Basically Israelites of the old world."

"The word "Giants" is used as to say a man or men with high stature or higher power / ruling power not big tall body men."

Why I bring this up is how important the title of these group of people are. God talked to Noah more vocally then in person. While we have nothing on the Nephilim. Could God have been disgusted at the Nephilim actions before the flood. that he didn't trust man enough yet.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 05:29 AM
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Is it possible God has a phobia against sin?


I don't think so, the God of old testament sins ALL THE TIME though he certainly seems to get upset when we pitiful mortals commit them. I mean just look at what happens in the Exodus story, God purposefully hardens Pharaoh's heart time and time again and then takes out the sins of Pharaoh and the Egyptian slave owners on the innocent children slaughtering them wholesale. That's genocide against children, I can think of few things that could be WORSE for a human to do, let alone a supposedly loving deity.

I always wonder how Christians keep their faith when God is so absent from the world. When I was indoctrinated as a child my head was filled with fantastic tales of people surviving in the belly of a whale for 3 days, of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego surviving the flames of the furnace, of Jesus raising the dead. Then you get into the real world and its like "so where's God?"... nowhere to be found.

Either God doesn't exist or he's the most illusive omnipresent being in history.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Titen-Sxull]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 05:44 AM
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"The seed of God is in us. " - rest is church interpretation.

Think for yourself..



The seed of God is in us. If the seed had a good, wise and industrious cultivator, it would thrive all the more and grow up to God whose seed it is, and the fruit would be equal to the nature of God. Now the seed of a pear tree grows into a pear tree, a hazel seed into a hazel tree, and the seed of God into God. If the seal is pressed completely through the wax so that no wax remains without being impressed by the seal, then it becomes indistinguishably one with the seal. Similarly the soul becomes completely united with God.



do little experiment, read something for the bible but replace God with Men.
(oh yea.. it works with most religions).



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 06:07 AM
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God left Earth to go play chess with Satan on another planet. If I remember correctly, God got angry, cried, and took out all his frustrations on the poor dinosaurs on Earth.

That's when he decided to design a black hole. He didn't know what was on the other side, but he went in and he found himself at a retro looking rollerdisco full of homosexual aliens which he decided to create because he could.

He now resides there even till this day. He drinks tropical punch and is the DJ there.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 06:13 AM
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Why did God leave so early?
Perhaps we grew up too quickly?
Perhaps when we were young and innocent,
God was young and strong!
Perhaps all our wisdom has chased him away!
Or chased us away!
Didn't we eat something or other?
Isn't that the clue!

[edit on 16-6-2010 by midicon]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 06:29 AM
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If you are a Christian, then you believe that God returned to earth in human form as Jesus Christ.

God also gave us all free will~ the ability to screw up our lives to the fullest.

If one asks for the graces of His will be done, then the Trinity will aid and guide throughout life.

On the Cross, Jesus gave us His Mother in our care. Mary is not to be worshipped by us, but we are to take Her in our care. She is to be venerated as the Mother of God and given the respect due Her. Jesus loved His Mother to distraction... how can we call ourselves His followers and do any less?

The Blessed Virgin will also intercede for us before the Trinity.

These are my beliefs. Not to say they are right or wrong. Just mine. I will not debate them. People believe what they want.

God Bless~



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 06:32 AM
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GOD did not leave us.
He sent His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. and then the Holy Spirit.
THE GOD OF THE QURAN IS NOT THE TRUE GOD.... HE IS A FALSE GOD!!!!

People come to us from time to time for encouragement and for prayer. Often they are hurt or angry or discouraged because they pray and God doesn’t answer; He seems to have turned His back on them, appearing not to hear their prayers at all.

We all know that sometimes God delays answers to prayer because He wants to test our faith. Sometimes He is working out His perfect timing before answering a prayer. Sometimes we realize later that He had something better in mind than what we asked. Sometimes we see that we had been "asking amiss" [James 4:3], with a wrong motive or desire. Sometimes, for our good, God just says "No."

But many express frustration because none of their prayers are answered. Nothing in their lives seems to be going right; God’s promises have not proved true for them. They do all the "right things"--faithfully attending church, praying, sometimes even fasting. They worship and praise the Lord, even in the midst of their disappointment. They know that the Lord has promised He will never forsake us, yet they feel forsaken, and based on the outward evidence, some would agree with them. We hear the cry of confusion in their hearts.

What’s wrong?

It is clear from the Scriptures that God really wants to answer our prayers. And while it is true that He may in many cases answer "no" or "wait," we should be seeing answers to some--if not all--of our prayers: if not daily, then regularly and often, as the reasonable pattern of our prayer lives. If this is not happening, then something must be wrong--not just in our praying but in the overall conduct of our lives. His promises of answered prayer are to those who are following Him in obedience, are they not?

If people experiencing a life full of unanswered prayers are truly saved, if they have been born of the Spirit [John 3:5,8], there is something desperately wrong in their walk with the Lord. In Bible passages too numerous to list, God promises to answer prayers.

The first thing, then, must be to look at one’s heart and make sure he truly is a child of the Lord. If there has been a time in his life when, indeed, "all things were made new" [2 Corinthians 5:17], when he knew he was a son of God because he was led of the Spirit [Romans 8:14], he can know he is a child of God, for no one can snatch him out of the Lord’s hand [John 10:28]. If there is uncertainty, then the issue of salvation needs to be settled with the Lord under the guidance of a pastor or mature Christian.

But if one is truly a Christian, and somehow is living with less than God’s promised provision for His children, then prayerfully considering the following verses may be helpful. If we ask Him, the Lord will show us if these truths apply to us and our walk with Him, and if they do, in what way and what we must do about it:

"Surely the arm of the Lord is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities [willful disobedience] have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear." [Isaiah 59:1-2]

"Come and listen, all you who fear God, let me tell you what he has done for me. I cried out to him with my mouth; his praise was on my tongue. If I had cherished [clung to]sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened; but God has surely listened and heard my voice in prayer. Praise be to God, who has not rejected my prayer or withheld his love from me!" [Psalm 66:16-20]

"These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men." [Isaiah 29:13]



What is our part?

All our sins--past, present and future--are forgiven through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on the cross, but we must still come before Him with clean hands and a pure heart. Jesus told Peter he didn’t need a bath, but he needed to wash his feet [John 13:10]. We do that through the confession of our individual sins, knowing He will forgive [1 John 1:8-9].

It may be painful to allow the Lord to show us if sin is the reason for a loss of fellowship with Him, but sin is actually a very simple problem to deal with--if we are willing to confess it, receive God’s forgiveness and cleansing, and to embrace His strength to get beyond it, to turn away from it through the power of His Spirit in us.

What the Lord wants is a broken and contrite heart [Psalm 51:17], a heart utterly crushed over our sins [Psalm 38:8-10,17-18], and a desire to repent [Matthew 4:17], to turn away from those sins in His strength, acknowledging we have no strength of our own. If we come with a truly humble heart, asking to be shown and willing to be obedient to whatever God says, He will show us the way back to Him. He may not answer every prayer as we desire, but we will not be forsaken or abandoned. We will know His love in the midst of whatever trial we are facing. His grace, His peace that passes all understanding, will be sufficient. We will be more certain of His faithfulness--and His response to our prayers--than of anything else in life.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 06:36 AM
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Man has three conflicts: other men, nature, and his own self.


With only a little bit of intelligence and gumption, it is easy to overcome nature, provided you do not live on top of a mountain or the middle of the sea.

With meditation and patience, you can conquer your inner demons.

All that is left is interaction with other people. This conflict arises due to property. What I'm about to say goes against the capitalist way but it is nonetheless true: if you have no property, you can't have property stolen from you, and thus no one has any reason to bother you. In summation, if you have limited property, you have limited things that can be lost.

I realize this doesn't exactly answer your question about God, but if you can achieve these three things, do you still need God?



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 07:28 AM
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He didn't leave early.
He was never on Earth.
God is outside the universe.
No universe could hold God.
Adam and Eve were not on earth. They were in Paradise. Which is outside this universe.
These stories were anthropomorphized in the Bible through the influence of pagan beliefs in the region, who had "their" Gods, as in their personal "tribal" Gods, who "walked" among them. Some Jews felt the need to antropomorphize "their" God too - thus transforming Eloh (Allah) into YHWH, their "national God".

Any "God" who would "come down" to Earth, would have to become human - if he did so, he would cease to be God. If God ceased to be - the universe ceases to be. Since we are here discussing this on this forum, apparently this never happened.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 07:53 AM
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I thought he was with Elvis at The Restaurant At The End Of The Universe.

Alanis Morissette maybe?

Seriously I don't believe in a specific god-like entity as such, but I accept that we don't actually know where we come from, and nor do I think we will find out while we are human form roaming the earth.

MM



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
I hope my title is not miss leading. Early tonight I was thinking to myself where is God in the world? Since God want's people to follow him. What was the last time in the Bible/Quran when God was on the Earth and interacted with people? That would be during when Adam and Eve were on the Earth, including Cain and Able. God is in the Garden of Eden interacting with the animals and Adam and Eve. As well when Cain and Able were offering their offerings. After the first recorded murder in the Bible. God seems to leave the Earth and interact with people through Angels and vocally. What caused God to do this? Is it possible God has a phobia against sin? What are you guys views on this issue?


EH? A book written by man, a story. "Since God want's people to follow him"; who said this? The people that want to control the world - correct. The same that killed people for laughing, thinking different and so called witches. How can people still believe this stuff? I can't get it!



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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We could no longer understand his PERFECT language so he felt the angels would be good enough to interact with until we become perfect again, WE LOST OUR PERFECT SELVES AND COULD NO LONGER COMMUNICATE WITH THE PERFECT CREATOR....



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
I don't think so, the God of old testament sins ALL THE TIME though he certainly seems to get upset when we pitiful mortals commit them.


Here we are again. I do disagree with you.
Are you talking about pitiful mortals now in our time or back then in the Old Testament?


Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
I mean just look at what happens in the Exodus story, God purposefully hardens Pharaoh's heart time and time again and then takes out the sins of Pharaoh and the Egyptian slave owners on the innocent children slaughtering them wholesale.


We went through this already. Pharaoh thought he was God. He was the first one to order the Israeli boys killed.


Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
That's genocide against children, I can think of few things that could be WORSE for a human to do, let alone a supposedly loving deity.


How come you don't say Pharaoh did genocide against children. Did you miss that part?


Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
I always wonder how Christians keep their faith when God is so absent from the world.



Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
When I was indoctrinated as a child my head was filled with fantastic tales of people surviving in the belly of a whale for 3 days, of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego surviving the flames of the furnace, of Jesus raising the dead. Then you get into the real world and its like "so where's God?"... nowhere to be found.

He is not absent from the world. He's here but we are the ones who have to open our eyes, ears and hearts.


Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
Either God doesn't exist or he's the most illusive omnipresent being in history.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that something cannot come from nothing.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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Actually the Bible doesn't mention the Pharaohs by name. It's been proven the Jews were never slaves in Ancient Egypt.
www.usbible.com...
skeptoid.com...
egyptian-history.suite101.com...
www.csmonitor.com...



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Actually the Bible doesn't mention the Pharaohs by name.


That is correct.


Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
It's been proven the Jews were never slaves in Ancient Egypt.


worldview3.50webs.com...



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Your link is nothing more then Biblical propaganda. You're going to have to do better then posting a link from a Creations site. Christians are known to fabricate evidence.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Your link is nothing more then Biblical propaganda. You're going to have to do better then posting a link from a Creations site. Christians are known to fabricate evidence.


The same goes for your links also. Unbelievers are known to fabricate evidence also.
Egypt wouldn't have wanted anyone to know that they were defeated.



[edit on 6/16/2010 by texastig]




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