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If you liked B.P.'s oil spill, you'll love Chevron's Genocide in Ecuador

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posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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I'm starting this topic in "General Conspiracies," 'cause this has got to be one of the most suppressed news stories of the twentieth century, and it concerns one of the worst ecological disasters in history.

Have you ever heard about Chevron's destruction of the rain forest in Ecuador and the people who lived there?

I didn't think so. You see, on the rare occasions when a newspaper or documentary film maker happen to report on the story, they get sued into poverty, and the story goes away.

The short version of the story is that Chevron was building a pipeline in the 1960s, messed up real bad, and now there's a big wasteland and a bunch of graves where there used to be a thriving forest and communities of indigenous peoples.

Maybe you're not too concerned about the Ecuadoran rain forest though (never mind the fact that the rain forest is our planet's lungs). Well this is still relevant to you, because another oil company you may have heard about is currently following Chevron's PR game plan, using every trick from their playbook. Let me quote from an e-mail my dad sent me earlier today:

"A friend told me that BP has been buying up every possible pollution-related search term and URL, and packing all the
URLs with pro-BP propaganda. excuse me, with positive PR. Major attempt at perception management. I haven't tried
googling to see for myself, though. They have a green logo and that's all the evidence I need that BP Cares About the
Environment. (cough)"

This business of buying up search terms and URLs is exactly what Chevron has done. Google "Chevron Ecuador genocide," and it's almost inevitable that you'll wind up looking at sites which appear to be telling the hard-hitting truth about what went down, but then, as you read the articles, and as you look a little closer, you'll realize that the sites themselves are owned or sponsored by Chevron.

Look for the fine print disclosing that the site represents the opinions of Chevron employees. And get ready to see a bunch of similar sites which are designed to white-wash BP's massive negligence.

This fake exposé technique that Chevron employs is just so sleazy. It reminds me of those banner ads you see that say things like "Acai Berry Diet Exposed!"

Like they're gonna tell you the Acai berry diet is a big scam. But of course, it's a sales pitch for the Acai berry diet. Chevron and BP are resorting to the same sleazy tactics as the spammers who want to sell you Acai berry diets and herbal Viagra.

That should tell you something.


For further reading, I suggest checking out the following sites:

Amazon Watch

Chevron Toxico

[edit on 15-6-2010 by flightsuit]

[edit on 15-6-2010 by flightsuit]




posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by flightsuit


Have you ever heard about Chevron's destruction of the rain forest in Ecuador and the people who lived there?


Yes actually I have.

In this thread yesterday.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sorry to break the news to ya!



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by flightsuit
and as you look a little closer, you'll realize that the sites themselves are owned or sponsored by Chevron.

Look for the fine print disclosing that the site represents the opinions of Chevron employees. And get ready to see a bunch of similar sites which are designed to white-wash BP's massive negligence.

This fake exposé technique that Chevron employs is just so sleazy.


I have NEVER heard about this.

Keep your thread open. This is new to me.

I would love to see some discussion on this part.

I totally believe it though, it sounds SO TRUE.

I am gonna go check this stuff out, time to Google.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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Chevron did a number on Salt Lake City as well...

www.ksl.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...






[edit on 15-6-2010 by PapaKrok]



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:02 PM
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I did a very large post about this on my thread here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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Thank you.
Spreading the word as we speak... more people should see this.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by flightsuit
I'm starting this topic in "General Conspiracies," 'cause this has got to be one of the most suppressed news stories of the twentieth century, and it concerns one of the worst ecological disasters in history.

Have you ever heard about Chevron's destruction of the rain forest in Ecuador and the people who lived there?

I didn't think so. You see, on the rare occasions when a newspaper or documentary film maker happen to report on the story, they get sued into poverty, and the story goes away.

The short version of the story is that Chevron was building a pipeline in the 1960s, messed up real bad, and now there's a big wasteland and a bunch of graves where there used to be a thriving forest and communities of indigenous peoples.

Maybe you're not too concerned about the Ecuadoran rain forest though (never mind the fact that the rain forest is our planet's lungs). Well this is still relevant to you, because another oil company you may have heard about is currently following Chevron's PR game plan, using every trick from their playbook. Let me quote from an e-mail my dad sent me earlier today:

"A friend told me that BP has been buying up every possible pollution-related search term and URL, and packing all the
URLs with pro-BP propaganda. excuse me, with positive PR. Major attempt at perception management. I haven't tried
googling to see for myself, though. They have a green logo and that's all the evidence I need that BP Cares About the
Environment. (cough)"

This business of buying up search terms and URLs is exactly what Chevron has done. Google "Chevron Ecuador genocide," and it's almost inevitable that you'll wind up looking at sites which appear to be telling the hard-hitting truth about what went down, but then, as you read the articles, and as you look a little closer, you'll realize that the sites themselves are owned or sponsored by Chevron.

Look for the fine print disclosing that the site represents the opinions of Chevron employees. And get ready to see a bunch of similar sites which are designed to white-wash BP's massive negligence.

This fake exposé technique that Chevron employs is just so sleazy. It reminds me of those banner ads you see that say things like "Acai Berry Diet Exposed!"

Like they're gonna tell you the Acai berry diet is a big scam. But of course, it's a sales pitch for the Acai berry diet. Chevron and BP are resorting to the same sleazy tactics as the spammers who want to sell you Acai berry diets and herbal Viagra.

That should tell you something.


For further reading, I suggest checking out the following sites:

Amazon Watch

Chevron Toxico

[edit on 15-6-2010 by flightsuit]

[edit on 15-6-2010 by flightsuit]


i started a thread about Chevron's treatment to Ecuador yesterday, but your thread raises some interesting questions about site ownerships. What sites in particular are you talking about?

It is interesting to note that people are talking about BP 'buying up' keywords relating to the oil disaster and having their main site appear in the sponsored ads. There's a bit of media spin going on here. The way Google Ads works means no one can own keywords, but can place bids on the keywords perceived worth and if your bid is high enough and the website they relate to is very relevant, then there is a very good chance your site will make page one impressions. Or appear on the first search page.

You, me anyone can bid on those keywords. Google places an upper level bid limit and from memory I think it is £50 a keyword or phrase. I will investigate further and make a thread.

However, keep me posted if you reveal and dirty tricks by the oil mongers.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 07:32 PM
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The problems in Ecuador are 100% the result of the local government down there who took over the operations from Texaco.

These people are only going after chevron because they have money and are easier to find.

Dont get me wrong western oil companies have done lots to destroy this planet but this instance it is the local governments doing and chevron just being the scapegoat since they are a better lawsuit target.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Desolate Cancer]



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Desolate Cancer
The problems in ecuador are 100% the result of the local government donw there who took over the operations from texaco.

These people aer only going after chevron because they have money and are easier to find.

DOnt get me wrong western oil companies have done lots to destroy this planet but this instance it is the local governments doing and chevron just being the scapegoat since they are a better lawsuit target.


100% Ecuador's fault. I am not sure I see how?



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 11:18 PM
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Wow! I am heartened by the many positive replies to this thread, and glad also to know that I'm not the first person to bring this topic up on ATS. I'm gonna check out those two other threads right now...



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 12:01 AM
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Texaco was a minority partner with PetroEcuador the State oil company of Ecuador, and in 1990 PetroEcuador took over as operators of the sites concerned.
In 1992 Texaco left the partnership completely, which involved $40 million clean up operation of sites that it had been involved in, this clean up was then inspected and the Ecuador government accepted the inspections and released Texaco from any further liability.

Chevron have since taken over Texaco, can't remember when exactly.

The current Lawsuit against Chevron has been a shame from the start, the current pollution is from PetroEcuadors running of the sites since 1992.

Also among other very dodgy details, the first Judge to preside over the case in Ecuador was filmed talking about how much money it would take to ensure that he filed against Chevron...



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 01:34 AM
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Yes exactly, your information is 100% right, thank you for explaining it in more detail than I did.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by uptheirons!...the current pollution is from PetroEcuadors running of the sites since 1992....


What do you mean when you say "the current pollution?"

The oil spill which devastated the rain forest and made orphans out of countless children occurred in the 1960s, when Texaco was calling the shots.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:18 AM
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I guess it is very ironical that the US government asks BP to show some money to pay for the clean up, when major US companies have been battling for decades before having to pay anything to foreign countries.

All those companies should be held accountable for the damage they cause, and maybe the gulf event will result in a change in jurisprudence.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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The pollution was caused by, and still is being caused by PetroEcuador's operations in the country.

Texaco cleaned up the sites they were involved with and had an independent inspection confirm this in 1992.

The current lawsuit is based on an inspection carried out on behalf of the Anti-US government of Ecuador by an independent contractor which has been given the contract to clean up any pollution if it is found to be from Texaco/Chevron.

I.E....don't find any pollution, no contract.....find pollution but it's the stae run companies fault, no contract....find polution and say it's Chevrons fault, get a contract and therefore a cut of $27 Billion!...

The so called independent report filed for the court in this case, stating that the blame is on Chevron has been written by Richard Cabrera, who is the co-founder, general manager, majority stockholder, and legal representative of an oilfield remediation company, Compañía Ambiental Minera-Petrolera S.A. ("CAMPET"), which is registered to perform oilfield remediation and other services for Petroecuador.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by LarryLove

i started a thread about Chevron's treatment to Ecuador yesterday, but your thread raises some interesting questions about site ownerships. What sites in particular are you talking about?


One Chevron propaganda site which at least is honest enough to identify itself as such is theamazonpost.com.

Yes, it says right at the top of the page that it's "Chevron's views and opinions on the Ecuador lawsuit," but it still sucks that their page is able to crowd out other ones when you search for info on the topic.

And they make it sound so...

I don't know.

"Views and opinions on the Ecuador lawsuit" is so detached; we're talking about something much more than a lawsuit here. We're talking about the destruction of a rain forest and the civilization which inhabited it. We're talking about a vanished way of life and plant and animal species threatened with extinction.



posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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What do you want Chevron to do? Just sit back be slandered dragged through the mud and not do anything?

Just because they are an oil company does not make them evil, just because they may have polluted and ignored other places does not make them responsible for this instance.

Understand this, there are such things as lawsuits whose sole goal is to get money, Chevron is not responsible for the mess in the forrest down there, they did not cause the problems, this was caused by the local government who took over the well from Texaco (who chevron bought), but Texaco is not responsible for the damages either, it is the corrupt and inept local govt.

You want to be angry at someone for destroying the rainforrest be angry at hte local government and the scumbag lawyers who would rather go after an innocent but deep pocketed entity than the actual responsible parties.

[edit on 18-6-2010 by Desolate Cancer]



posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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You really seem to care about Chevron. Never mind the fact that their record for aiding and abetting human rights abuses (including straight-up murder) is among the worst of any corporation.

Regarding their amazonpost.com Web site, I should point out that the little disclaimer about it being the opinions of Chevron employees is now much more prominent than it used to be. That disclaimer was originally buried way near the bottom of the page. I guess Chevron got enough flack that they felt compelled to change it. Maybe the page's original configuration didn't test well in focus groups.



posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 04:52 PM
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I dont care about Chevron any more than i care about a company who i have no real interaction with, except maybe in this case i use their gas or plastics from their oil, but if they disappeared tomorrow i wouldn't care, they dont need my help they can take care of themselves.

What I care about is parasitic lawyers trying to make money by blaming an innocent company for something that was done by another group.

What should I not care about justice and whats right just because Chevron is rich or is in the oil business? Should I think its ok for these people and lawyers to not go after the real responsible parties bc they are harder to track down or dont have as much money?

Boy you really do seem to not care who is responsible for the mess in the rain forest down there.



posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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I find it interesting that you believe Chevron is innocent.

The indigenous peoples of Ecuador aren't all that interested in money. They just want Chevron to acknowledge what it did to them.




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