Originally posted by Lady_Tuatha
reply to post by Freeborn
You really need to brush up on your Northern Irish history, most of what you say is grossly one sided and ignorant. Its people like you people who
refuse to see that SinnFein represent the majority of the catholics here, that is why they were voted into power, that is why Martin McGuinness is the
Deputy First Minister.
They certainly don't represent the majority of Northern Irish I have met, Catholic or Protestant.
You say you know a family who had to move because their son was datng a protestant? how long ago was this? recently? because I live in a nationalist
area and my housemate/friend is a protestant englishman, he has never had any trouble here and he has lived here for the last 5 years.
It was in the 70's during The Troubles, you know, the times that you seem determined to bring back!
It is quite telling that you acknowledge that all is still not peachy in Northern Ireland.
The examples you give are all those horrible Loyalists bricking taxi's and dealing in drugs yet you portray the Nationalitist area's as
Your ignorance perpetuates the hatred.
You can not even see your bigotry so you will never be able to break free from it until you accept it.
The IRA did deal in drugs, and probably still do.
There have been convicted IRA terrorists arrested with Columbian drug cartels.
What the hell do you think they were doing there?
A spot of sight seeing?
And do you know why they threatened independant drug dealers?
Not to clean up the streets but because they were cutting into their profits.
And are you honestly trying to say that The IRA didn't run any protection rackets?
That they didn't extort money from people?
They were gangsters!
Of course there was massive discrimination against Catholics in Northern Ireland, you will never hear me deny that.
But the vast majority of advancements that have been made occurred when Nationalists abandoned the armed struggle and decided to negotiate
The Nationalist cause would have continued to go nowhere if they had continued bombing innocent people.
Do you have so little understanding of English and British resolve?
You say if the army had left it would not have been the action of a responsible government ,
I stand by that.
There would have been a bloodbath.
Both sides were well armed and financed.
And whether you like it or not Northern Ireland is part of The United Kingdom Of Great Britain and as such there is no way any government would have
allowed that sort of carnage to occur within it's own borders.
For one moment take a step away from it all and ty to imagine what would have happened if the troops had pulled out.
You express grief for the people who died on Bloody Sunday yet pass no comment on the thousands of innocents who died at the hands of the IRA.
You seem incredibly insensitive and uncaring for all those innocent who died, perhaps the fact that countless women and children were amongst those
that were callously killed or maimed doesn't quite fit into your rose tinted, romantic view of Irish feedom fighters and so you choose to completely
ignore their suffering.
I assure you, I am more than aware that the English / Brits have committed some horrendous acts upon the Catholic / Nationalist communities in Ireland
over the centuries.
But to move forward it is important that all concerned parties recognise and accept the role that they themselves have played in Irelands bloody
history, acknowledge it and move on.
It seems to me that the blinded, one sided, ignorant bigotry is alive and kicking in at least one small part of Derry!
and yes I quite like that quote, another good quote I like is by the great man Bobby Sands ' Our revenge will be the laughter of our children'
Bobby Sands was not a great man, he was a convicted terrorist.
A shame the mother's of all the innocent children the IRA murdered won't hear their children's laughter.
But I guess that means nothing to you!
[edit on 16/6/10 by Freeborn]